Important question plz read!!!

[daande]

I am currently a month into my 2nd cycle. My ex and I are going on dates and shit again..however I freaked out on her for nothing yesterday and today she tells me I am the exact same as I was before even though I learned to deal with the shit that used to bother me. Anyways, she told me today that she doesn't think me and her will ever get back together....I feel like ****ing shit right now. She said she feels we are meant to be friends because she feels she will never satisfy me and she doesn't want me to settle. I love her tons and I feel she's the one. Any ideas, comments, or suggestions? I know this above paragraph is all over the place but I am writing from my phone so bear with me!

[BBbox]

how long were you broken up for? why did you originally break up?

sounds like you should maybe move on to someone else

[waderow]

the only way I can see it working is you attending counseling and you inform her that you are doing it, because you need to deal with your anger, and you do not want to lose her bla bla bla

but seriously.... freaked out for no reason?

[daande]

dated for 4 years and broke up last February. We started hanging out again in august. We broke up because I would pretty much get mad when she went out which is stupid. Anyways all of august and sept and October I was fine then I got on the juice again which I am assuming exaggerates my emotions. I started going back to my old behaviour.

[daande]

the only way I can see it working is you attending counseling and you inform her that you are doing it, because you need to deal with your anger, and you do not want to lose her bla bla bla

but seriously.... freaked out for no reason?

I was pissed because she didn't wanna come in which means I wasn't getting any pussy. The juice has me soo horny that the moment she left from dropping me off I called her and freaked out I knew like 20 minutes after I did it I was seriously in the wrong I just need to take a breather before acting on my emotions until end of cycle I guess.

[BBbox]

you guys got together again after 7 months? intense.

Yah I would book some counselling, she would probably be impressed with that.

[gicantor]

Tell her your sorry(and mean it) and think before you speak next time. Being in a relationship is going to require you to be considerite of her feelings.Even if you are horny as ****. But i'm sure you already know that.

[daande]

She doesn't know I'm on juice...should I tell her or no

[Andre]

She doesn't know I'm on juice...should I tell her or no

I would be honest with her... but on the other hand, juice has nothing to do with this...

[daande]

Maybe I should tell her that I'm on a prhorme like epistane as I have a bottle of it

[gicantor]

She doesn't know I'm on juice...should I tell her or no

No,no,no I did that for the first time with the last chick I was dating. Don't do it they will hold it over your head everytime you do something different. I thought honest was the best policy. It wasn't. I would keep it to yourself.

[marino]

I would be honest with her... but on the other hand, juice has nothing to do with this...

It doesn't have anything to do with this situation however if you do want to have a future with her eventually she should know

[BBbox]

be honest.

[daande]

I would be honest with her... but on the other hand, juice has nothing to do with this...

I would say the juice threw me over the edge. But I do agree that it wasn't the cause.

[BBbox]

man why do you even care if she wouldnt put out dont you have like a dozen sluts on the side? Youre always posting about other chicks youre picking up

[#8]

tough situ. i agree with the afformentioned councilling advice. talk to a professional.

[marino]

When you are on and all you can think about is getting laid it makes it harder to ease back into a relationship which may be what she wants

[gicantor]

BBox didn't you read he's loves her and thinks she's the one.

[BBbox]

I read that... but ive also read the many posts hes made about various sluts hes been ****ing lately... so I just dont see that he really cares that much

[daande]

Ya I have some random girls but in the past few weeks I have cut them all off because of her. When I ding a random ya its fun while your doing it but its not the same as with her.

[gicantor]

I read that... but ive also read the many posts hes made about various sluts hes been ****ing lately... so I just dont see that he really cares that much

Coulda had a change of heart. Maybe being with her again made him realize what he threw away.

[BBbox]

^^ ok well i just read that they got back together in august and so have been dating for like 4 months again and hes still been doing randoms till a couple weeks ago, dont think thats how you act with "the one", but whatever

be honest with her about the steroids or itll come back and bite you in the ass

[daande]

When you are on and all you can think about is getting laid it makes it harder to ease back into a relationship which may be what she wants

All I can think about is blowing my load. I literally am beating off like ****ing 6 times a day its the worst. I actually hate that part about juice. I wish it only increased your libido alittle bit. But I was doing 100mg of prop EOD plus 500mg TEST E EW with 600mg EQ EW. Now that I am done the prop hopefully I am less horny.

[waderow]

I actually liked the NPP and Var sides I got.... Only needed to get rocks off once a day...

[daande]

I actually liked the NPP and Var sides I got.... Only needed to get rocks off once a day...

I need to realize I will only be dinging her like once a week and the other 41 times a week I will be jerking off.

[Durk]

yah npp will change that.

[Durk]

I think I have some of the same problems as you. When a girl stops putting out all the time I usually start a fight just so I can break up and smash dirties again. My drives that bad and I havent used gear in almost 2 years lol

[daande]

I wish I realized this shit a month ago when things were going awesome. I hope there is still time to patch this up because it would be a shame if this was it. Maybe she really isnt the one for me but right now I feel like she is. We always have an amazing time together (when im not being a douche, i.e. being mad at her for something stupid). I am going to try my best to not get mad at her for no reason over the next few weeks which I dont think will be too hard now that I have realized I have a problem. Hopefully I will have some positive updates for everyone.

[daande]

I think I have some of the same problems as you. When a girl stops putting out all the time I usually start a fight just so I can break up and smash dirties again. My drives that bad and I havent used gear in almost 2 years lol

Ya I am thinking about doing Deca just so my sex drive drops lol

[daande]

I think I am going to tell her this let me know if it is a bad idea or not. I dont want to tell her I am on juice just because I think she wont wanna talk to me anymore:

Anyways this is what I am thinking about saying:
I am on epistane and it makes me super horny. It makes me so horny that I get mad that shes not around to have sex with and I didnt realize it at first but now I do realize it and I will be able to deal with my feelings alot better.

Is that stupid?

[Andre]

I would say the juice threw me over the edge. But I do agree that it wasn't the cause.

Word of advice... NEVER use that as an excuse... you are always responsible for your actions!

[gicantor]

I think I am going to tell her this let me know if it is a bad idea or not. I dont want to tell her I am on juice just because I think she wont wanna talk to me anymore:

Anyways this is what I am thinking about saying:
I am on epistane and it makes me super horny. It makes me so horny that I get mad that shes not around to have sex with and I didnt realize it at first but now I do realize it and I will be able to deal with my feelings alot better.

Is that stupid?

Naw man it makes it sound like you want her for a piece of meat. She'll probably take offense. Bad idea

[Durk]

Normally my advice would be cancel a date with her then go out with another girl and tell her about how awesome the other girl is, but I think that would only be a short term fix.

Tell her the truth about the gear or say its PH's. Controlling your anger and hornyness is probably the biggest thing. I have no clue how to do it. I honestly think my dong controls 50% of my thought patterns lol.

[Durk]

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[gicantor]

^^^ yup. say you had a bad day at work/school.

[daande]

I need to show her that I have changed. So if I ever do feel the urge to freak out for no reason from now on instead of acting out of emotion I will take a breather and chill out for abit and then re-assess how I feel after I am able to cool down. Instead of full out blowing up. Wish me luck.

[PdH]

Daande, I know a bit about the dysfunctional side of human nature since it's my business to. From reading this it seems like you want some straight up info, so I'm going to give it to you. I don't know you personally, so it's not an attack, it's an objective assessment.

You're a narcissistic control freak that bangs all kinds of women in a futile attempt to feel better about yourself, but banging these girls is also an act of self-sabotage. You get back with your girlfriend, who you say is the one, yet you're banging random chicks at the same time. You've posted about doing so recently, so either you were untruthful then, or you're untruthful now saying that you've stopped doing so because of your girlfriend. So, if you're so happy with your girl, why do need to put it all at risk for random shit? It's called self-sabotage and it's what people do when they either consciously or subconsciously believe they are not worthy of happiness.

So, why are you pissed at your girl? Cause she wouldn't give you sex, or because she's with you once again after you've ****ed her over so many times and you can't live with the guilt. A narcissist always blames another for their self-created circumstances. Even now you're prepared to try and lie your way out of it, digging yourself a deeper hole. What I can tell you is this shit ain't free, and life does come to collect, usually when you don't have the fees to pay. You should consider getting professional help and staying away from women for quite some time. There, you got straight up.

[natenator]

Daande, I know a bit about the dysfunctional side of human nature since it's my business to. From reading this it seems like you want some straight up info, so I'm going to give it to you. I don't know you personally, so it's not an attack, it's an objective assessment.

You're a narcissistic control freak that bangs all kinds of women in a futile attempt to feel better about yourself, but banging these girls is also an act of self-sabotage. You get back with your girlfriend, who you say is the one, yet you're banging random chicks at the same time. You've posted about doing so recently, so either you were untruthful then, or you're untruthful now saying that you've stopped doing so because of your girlfriend. So, if you're so happy with your girl, why do need to put it all at risk for random shit? It's called self-sabotage and it's what people do when they either consciously or subconsciously believe they are not worthy of happiness.

So, why are you pissed at your girl? Cause she wouldn't give you sex, or because she's with you once again after you've ****ed her over so many times and you can't live with the guilt. A narcissist always blames another for their self-created circumstances. Even now you're prepared to try and lie your way out of it, digging yourself a deeper hole. What I can tell you is this shit ain't free, and life does come to collect, usually when you don't have the fees to pay. You should consider getting professional help and staying away from women for quite some time. There, you got straight up.
Care to do an assessment of me now? I'd love to see how accurate you are ;)

[BBbox]

Daande, I know a bit about the dysfunctional side of human nature since it's my business to. From reading this it seems like you want some straight up info, so I'm going to give it to you. I don't know you personally, so it's not an attack, it's an objective assessment.

You're a narcissistic control freak that bangs all kinds of women in a futile attempt to feel better about yourself, but banging these girls is also an act of self-sabotage. You get back with your girlfriend, who you say is the one, yet you're banging random chicks at the same time. You've posted about doing so recently, so either you were untruthful then, or you're untruthful now saying that you've stopped doing so because of your girlfriend. So, if you're so happy with your girl, why do need to put it all at risk for random shit? It's called self-sabotage and it's what people do when they either consciously or subconsciously believe they are not worthy of happiness.

So, why are you pissed at your girl? Cause she wouldn't give you sex, or because she's with you once again after you've ****ed her over so many times and you can't live with the guilt. A narcissist always blames another for their self-created circumstances. Even now you're prepared to try and lie your way out of it, digging yourself a deeper hole. What I can tell you is this shit ain't free, and life does come to collect, usually when you don't have the fees to pay. You should consider getting professional help and staying away from women for quite some time. There, you got straight up.


hmmm I think some of this may be applicable to Jerseys situation too... no offense dude... PDH you always have good advice :a+

[PdH]

Care to do an assessment of me now? I'd love to see how accurate you are ;)

You're too guarded Nate. I don't have enough info to do anything with. :)

[PdH]

hmmm I think some of this may be applicable to Jerseys situation too... no offense dude... PDH you always have good advice :a+

Why thank you Bro. :)

[natenator]

You're too guarded Nate. I don't have enough info to do anything with. :)
lol seriously?

[PdH]

lol seriously?

Yes. You only communicate exactly what you want people to know.

[natenator]

Yes. You only communicate exactly what you want people to know.
Haha. You are 1 for 1.

biggest annoyance in any relationship I've ever had - friend, romantic or family.

[trainharder]

Haha. You are 1 for 1.

biggest annoyance in any relationship I've ever had - friend, romantic or family.

Guess that means no one is justified to call you a dick anymore? Not enough info that make that assessment!

[natenator]

Guess that means no one is justified to call you a dick anymore? Not enough info that make that assessment!
lmao. Self professed, remember? ;)

[Roniman]

I assume you would like to hear advice, even though its a very personal issue and I can't say anyone is going to know all of the details necessary, but...I have never done steroids, but have anger problems. When I decided to accept AAS (after downloading Bigger.Stronger.Faster), I had to show my fiancee and let her undergo the same metamorphosis. I was counting on that, because in my opinion there is no point in being dishonest with your partner. If my wife is going to be my wife, she is going to accept me for who I am or she will be happier with someone else. Sneaking around makes you view yourself as doing something bad, and you should feel there is nothing wrong with taking juice or taking it will be like injecting guilt in your glutes. Besides, one look at you and c'mon...Everyone else but her will know your on roids! And the anger is a different issue altogether, yikes, I dont know what to say I know how it is...Pushing people away sucks, but I find working out and smoking weed really help me stay sane(r). Hope you feel better dude

[Durk]

You're too guarded Nate. I don't have enough info to do anything with. :)

haha what about me

[PdH]

haha what about me

Have a look at daande's, why do you think you two get on so well? However, the source of your narcissism has more to do with your mother issues, and attempting to fill that void at any cost because you think your personal pain entitles you to whatever you want. Your justifications for using and hurting others tend to be a bit more creative though, indicating some insight in regard to what you're doing. He's just unaware, you're aware, but you get off on your self-deprecating behaviour, which makes you a rather dangerous person Durk.

There's your straight up assessment Dude.

[natenator]

haha what about me
the same thing he wrote for Daande

[daande]

All the girls I banged / posted stories about where when I didnt think me and her were ever getting back together. About a month or so ago. I have never cheated on a girlfriend and I never would. I appreciate your answer. Back in the summer I definitely was banging tons of random girls to feel better about myself because when she broke up with me it pretty much crushed all of my self-esteem. This is one of the reasons why I think I finally decided to use steroids. I had always wanted to do them but I did not want to disappoint her so I held back. When she ****ed off I said to myself **** it what do I have to lose basically lol. Anyways, her and I started hanging out again in august. At first I was extremely weary of what was going on and I tried to keep myself guarded from her hurting me again. I did not cut off any ties with any of the girls I was banging etc. Then I finally I felt like I could let her back in and I completely cut off all the skeezos.

She claims that when shes out and if I text message her saying something like "whats up?" thats me trying to keep tabs on her. Even though half the time I just miss her to I would text her. From now on if I text her I am not going to expect a response back and sometimes when shes out I might not even text message her at all. I know I have many things to work on and I was not blaming my steroid use on my actions like it might of seemed but they do exaggerate my emotions I feel and it kind of crept up on my as my juice was kicking in.

PdH: Would you mind asking me a few questions that I could honestly answer and could you give me some advice because I do not want to **** this one up.

[PdH]

Daande, here's the thing Dude. You are caught in a pattern of behaviour that you're not aware of. I can see it b/c I've spent many years training to observe these type of things. In order to break patterns of behaviour, you must first become aware of them and how they inter-relate. For this you need some professional assistance. Change comes in small ripples over long periods of time, not in big waves all at once.

If you honestly seek help, you can change. If you do not, you will continue to repeat the same cycles of behaviour because you don't have the insight or tools to make change on your own. Most people don't. If you do it, do it for yourself first, but also for those your behaviour affects. At this point you're just thinking about change because you don't want to lose something that you want, which is just more of the same, and destined to fail.

[BBbox]

lol you make it sound like hes just ****ed....

[trainharder]

PdH: Can you analyze Cheesesteak for us????

[Durk]

....
Have a look at daande's, why do you think you two get on so well? However, the source of your narcissism has more to do with your mother issues,

I do have a bit of mother issues, but I believe most of my pain comes from father figures I had in life. I started acting like this after hanging out with a friend of mine who pretty much bangs a new girl every week. I think of him like an older brother, and he thinks of me as his protege. Possibly subbing him in as a role model since I had no real male role models dunno

and attempting to fill that void at any cost because you think your personal pain entitles you to whatever you want.

Yes

Your justifications for using and hurting others tend to be a bit more creative though, indicating some insight in regard to what you're doing.

Those are harsh words to be using lol, in my deffense I have never given false promises, or made someone do something that they never agreed to, but yeah I do know what I am doing. Sometimes I take things a little far though lol.

He's just unaware, you're aware, but you get off on your self-deprecating behaviour, which makes you a rather dangerous person Durk.

I like psychology in a way. It fascinates me that If I take away all judgement and social/religious pressure from a girl she will be her true self.
The dangerous part? you saying I am a sociopath? lol
There's your straight up assessment Dude.

[daande]

Tell me if this normal or ****ed up...I am talking to my friend right now and he tell me its normal all guys are like this but I think me and him and our entire group of friends are ****ed up for doing this here is an example:

-My gf goes out with her girlfriends
-The next day I dont say something liek did you have fun?
-I say something like who was there?
-Then she will start telling me and I will sarcastically be like sweet thats awesome
-Meanwhile I am super pissed off and showing her how mad I am

That is not normal. I am correct right?

[BBbox]

^^ It seems like you dont trust her at all. Its not normal to feel this way. Is there are reason you dont trust her?

[PdH]

....

I'm not saying you're a sociopath Durk. We all have the potential to do terrible things in the right circumstances. I believe your potential is higher than most b/c you honestly seem rather aloof to the effect your behaviour might have on others.

[daande]

^^ It seems like you dont trust her at all. Its not normal to feel this way. Is there are reason you dont trust her?

I do trust her. She didnt even go on a date or fool around with anyone in the 6 months we didnt talk and I believe her. I know it seems like I dont trust her and thats what she thinks. Thats the main reason why we broke up to begin with. I think part of me gets so mad just because I am pissed she wasnt hanging out with me. I dunno, all I know is that if me and her are done for good I am never going to forgive myself for not being able to ask my girl if she had a good time.

[PdH]

PdH: Can you analyze Cheesesteak for us????

Cheesesteak is a pathological liar so I wouldn't know where to begin. I can only assess truth. That said, I do have some expertise in this area, but I'm not Carl Jung or Sigmund Freud.

[daande]

Cheesesteak is a pathological liar so I wouldn't know where to begin. I can only assess truth. That said, I do have some expertise in this area, but I'm not Carl Jung or Sigmund Freud.

Maybe cheesesteak is a cocaine addict they are all pathological liars and he also looks like a drug user.

[PdH]

Tell me if this normal or ****ed up...I am talking to my friend right now and he tell me its normal all guys are like this but I think me and him and our entire group of friends are ****ed up for doing this here is an example:-My gf goes out with her girlfriends
-The next day I dont say something liek did you have fun?
-I say something like who was there?
-Then she will start telling me and I will sarcastically be like sweet thats awesome
-Meanwhile I am super pissed off and showing her how mad I am
That is not normal. I am correct right?

Being jealous b/c she had fun without you is kind of narcissistic don't you think? Doesn't mean you're crazy or bad, but you have some serious maturing to do and some guidance in that area might be helpful.

[Durk]

Well for the better part of November I have taken a vow of celebacy. I thought it was about time after banging something like 8 girls in Oct. I am working 60 hours a week just to keep myself out of trouble lol.

I think I have a bit of an attachment disorder. I am going to try to atleast make the next girl I am with wait 3 weeks before we have sex because I dont think that I have had a romantic relationship yet that has been based on anything else.

If I dont see any relationship qualities I can break it all of without too much mess.

[gsxr750]

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[faller]

Have you considered raping her?

Seriously bro, if you ever had someone close to you get raped you wouldn't be so flippant in useing that phrase...

[natenator]

Seriously bro, if you ever had someone close to you get raped you wouldn't be so flippant in useing that phrase...
thank you for saying it. Anyone who can make light of someone being raped needs a kick to the ****ing mouth.

[marino]

thank you for saying it. Anyone who can make light of someone being raped needs a kick to the ****ing mouth.

X2 In addition, out of respect for the ladies in our lives and the ones on this board I hope to never see this line again

[daande]

X2 In addition, out of respect for the ladies in our lives and the ones on this board I hope to never see this line again

You my friend are a sexist. Males can be raped too and do get raped all around the world daily, probably more-so than females.

[natenator]

You my friend are a sexist. Males can be raped too and do get raped all around the world daily, probably more-so than females.
Did you just outright suggest that you believe males get raped more than woman????

[daande]

Did you just outright suggest that you believe males get raped more than woman????

I hear that many male rapes are unreported. Also, have you ever seen how many males are raped in jails?

[natenator]

I hear that many male rapes are unreported. Also, have you ever seen how many males are raped in jails?
That was not what I asked. I asked if you believe males get raped more than women???

[daande]

That was not what I asked. I asked if you believe males get raped more than women???

I wouldnt be surprised.

[natenator]

I wouldnt be surprised.
It's a simple yes or no question.

[waderow]

I wouldnt be surprised.

jesus

[natenator]

^^ lol

[daande]

I would say that more females get raped in normal society. I would say more males get raped inside jails by other males.

[daande]

Moved to new thread because this one got off topic.

[gsxr750]

Sorry dudes.

[natenator]

I would say that more females get raped in normal society. I would say more males get raped inside jails by other males.
Oddly enough I have zero problems with a criminal getting ass raped in jail.

Sounds like you are soft on crime there, Daande. I better not see you running for political office one day because I'll bring up this thread and your soft on crime stance.

[marino]

X2 In addition, out of respect for the ladies in our lives and the ones on this board I hope to never see this line again


You my friend are a sexist. Males can be raped too and do get raped all around the world daily, probably more-so than females.

Ok out of respect for the guys and girls on this board this is still a joke in bad taste IMO

[gicantor]

Sorry dudes.

no worries bro.