Steroid receptors and time off vs. time on....

[#8]

Many people are of the mindset that time off of steroids allows your receptors to "rest" or somehow recover from being bombarded with anabolic hormones. Is this rest period in between necessary to keep the steroid potently working in someones system?

Im not sure if my question is that clear. When I look at the bodies of many pro BB'ers or even many fitness athletes / models it appears as if some or many if not most of them never come off of cycles, albeit mild cycles in the "in between" stages.

Are the steroids still working to full potential or does one HAVE TO come off to get the desired effect? If one does have to come off, what is the optimal time in which one should wait in order to believe their receptors are "fresh" again? Is there anything one can take that helps the receptors speed up "recovery" or their ability at least to function properly with a said dose?

Does switching esters accomplish the same goal of time off for keeping the receptors fresh?

[#8]

Sorry about that. That was a mouthful.


Thats what she said.

[Sandwiches]

is it really a matter of steroids potently working in someones system?
or is it because we know it is somewhat unhealthy to stay on for a long time?
or is it maybe i just wanted to reply to your thread?

[kloan]

Hoping to jump back on soon Jersey?

[kawikaratekid]

Good questions. I often wonder the same thing. If you're on a cycle of test only for let's say 500mg could you just use hcg to keep you testes in good form without fearing long term damage?

[gustavo77]

Good questions. I often wonder the same thing. If you're on a cycle of test only for let's say 500mg could you just use hcg to keep you testes in good form without fearing long term damage?

Yes, HCG can be used on cycle to keep the testes stimulated and working...if doses of HCG are kept moderate, there should be no fear in long term damage to the leydig cells.

[Praetorian]

Coming off has more to do with overall health and normalizing the bodies HPTA as well as other functions...ie liver, kidney, HDL, blood pressure etc. If receptor downgrade had any validity than most pros wouldnt be growing as they are because many do not come off for months or years.
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[#8]

^^ thats what i figured. thanks for the feedback.

as for jumping back on, prolly not, im just curious how these things work in the body. i get very regular bloodwork done so i always know if something is off

[TryGear]

also good to hear

[natenator]

I still cannot believe the receptor myth is still in existence.

[juced_porkchop]

receptors DONT down grade and DONT need to "rest" (health is another reez)

rise in SHBG and needing more cals is the main reez for stalls in gains.
RECEPTORSE ARE DIEING AND NEW ONES GROWING EVERY DAY!!

[Neavris]

I think the reason why most people believe this is because there is such a thing as stalling mid-cycle and many people have seen it. It's very doubtful that a massive increase in calories would offset this, as it is mainly due to the action of myostatin increasing in the bloodstream, limiting potential additions of lean muscle mass. There was a thread going on on OLM about this, the most knowledgeable poster who was describing this action mentioned myostatin seem to fully counter-balance steroids usage after 8 weeks.

That makes a ton of sense! How many guys out there have been saying "don't take a kick-starter on a 12 weeks long ester cycle, you simply limit your gain potential" or that doing steroid for long cycle without increasing the dosage as you go along is useless? Now maybe if you take enough HGH/insulin/aas you can push through this, but I haven't tried, no reasearch has been done on this, only very few people seem to inject over 1.2 grams anyhow.

It would be interesting to have a few pro note their gains week by week on a cycle and compare in-between all of them when do the gains drop given a certain amount of aas only...