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ultrasafe
22-11-2009, 01:02 AM
Ok first off I am not trying to invent the wheel here, but I hope I spark an intellectual conversation about this combination! As an athlete I am looking to increase strength and speed and some size. Not for BB.

Have real HG Primo that I would like to use but just recently been diagnosed with a very mild BPH from a physical I had. Ultrasound noted a mild increase with NO irregular cells. All other blood work were excellent and PSA values were in the normal range for my age. Actually My Doc was pretty decent and had all my other major organs pictured.. All good.

At first I was thinking of a Primo and Anavar cycle but kind of perplexed now.lolol….

BUT I came across this information that intrigued me: “some physicians have noted the decrease in PSA values when nandrolone alone is utilized instead of solely testosterone for HRT”

So we all know nandrolone reduces into the weaker androgen nor –DHT (dihydronandrolone DHN) and as such the resulting weaker nor-DHT has a blocking effect upon the more powerful DHT at the receptors sites in hair and prostate tissues in a mitigating value. So than I was thinking of this?

Primo inj (HG) 200mg for 8-10 weeks E3D
NPP 100mg for 5-6weeks E3D
Andriol 260mg per day for 8weeks

Why?
1. Primo since it is very safe and many athletes swear by it.
2. NPP (fast acting nandrolone) great for joints and in this case DHN would produce a positive effect in blocking DHT (ofcourse not all) in adhering to the receptor sites at the hair and prostate tissues. I like the idea of the short ester Nandro here since recovery would be quicker if I had problems.

3. OK I get it! Andriol is crap, but it is a very safe test oral and its only purpose here would be to combat deca dick (test booster) and reduce the volume at the injection site. (Plus I got it for free) ;)

Thanks for the feedback

PdH
22-11-2009, 01:20 AM
What dosages are you using, for how long, and what do you want to accomplish? What kind of problems would expect from these compounds?

ultrasafe
22-11-2009, 01:52 AM
What dosages are you using, for how long, and what do you want to accomplish? What kind of problems would expect from these compounds?

Primo inj (HG) 200mg for 8-10 weeks E3D
NPP 100mg for 5-6weeks E3D
Andriol 260mg per day for 8weeks

Athletic speed and performance..

What kind of problems?? That is why I am asking,,lol

Have real HG Primo that I would like to use but just recently been diagnosed with a very mild BPH from a physical I had. Ultrasound noted a mild increase with NO irregular cells. All other blood work were excellent and PSA values were in the normal range for my age.

NPP..........nor-DHT has a blocking effect upon the more powerful DHT at the receptors sites in hair and prostate tissues. Would this somewhat counter the Primo (DHT) concern?

PdH
22-11-2009, 11:11 AM
First thing, Andriol usually comes in 40 mg so I'm wondering how you're going to get 260? Anyway, it's irrelevant b/c the NPP is going to shut you down pretty hard even at that dose. That's generally the dose people use to manipulate Test blood levels to get placed on HRT. You're going to need 320 - 400 andriol to counter-act any problems you might encounter and your blood levels will be all over the place with andriol. 250 mg of Test - e a week is a much better alternative, and safer than andriol b/c of stabilized blood levels.

Your primo dose seems fine for athletic performance.

I would bump the NPP from 100 - 150 to get maximum effect. For athletics I personally think EQ is a better choice, though there is nothing wrong with NPP, it just ****s with your lipids more.

In regard to your side effect concerns, from these compounds at these dosages you can expect mildly elevated BP, mildly oily skin, and mild lipid changes.

Good luck Bro. :)

waderow
22-11-2009, 12:21 PM
npp would need to be jabbed ed or eod max

it has a quicker half life, and blood stability will be best achieved this way. some sites have said e3d max, but i think you might get sides that way. night sweats. zits.

PdH
22-11-2009, 01:25 PM
^^^True

z83
22-11-2009, 02:33 PM
Andriol is weak/uneffective for size/strenght. I've used it (it was free) and it's nothing compared to injectable test

ultrasafe
22-11-2009, 07:45 PM
First thing, Andriol usually comes in 40 mg so I'm wondering how you're going to get 260? Anyway, it's irrelevant b/c the NPP is going to shut you down pretty hard even at that dose. That's generally the dose people use to manipulate Test blood levels to get placed on HRT. You're going to need 320 - 400 andriol to counter-act any problems you might encounter and your blood levels will be all over the place with andriol. 250 mg of Test - e a week is a much better alternative, and safer than andriol b/c of stabilized blood levels.

Your primo dose seems fine for athletic performance.

I would bump the NPP from 100 - 150 to get maximum effect. For athletics I personally think EQ is a better choice, though there is nothing wrong with NPP, it just ****s with your lipids more.

In regard to your side effect concerns, from these compounds at these dosages you can expect mildly elevated BP, mildly oily skin, and mild lipid changes.

Good luck Bro. :)

Thanks PdH

I was originally going to do this cycle.

Primobolan 200 E3d for 8-10 weeks
Anavar 25mg ED for 6 weeks


But recently been diagnosed with a very mild BPH from a physical I had. Ultrasound noted a mild increase with NO irregular cells. All other blood work were excellent and PSA values were in the normal range for my age.

Just wondering if these two DHT compounds at this these dosages would make it worse?? That is why I was thinking of adding NPP since its DNH structure binds better to those tissue sites??

I would like to keep this cycle simple and stick with primo and anavar.

PdH
22-11-2009, 08:12 PM
I don't know how old you are but BPH is normal in your late 30s and up. If your main concern is the BPH then get some proscar. It would be more effective than NPP for the prostate. If you want to stay with the Primo and Var then do so with the proscar. Can't get much safer than that.