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rizzmatic
29-01-2008, 05:10 PM
Sup guys, just wanted to start off by saying that its great to find a Canadian board like this.



This may be a dumb question, but ive gotton a bunch of different answers to this question, and wanted to get some of your opinions.




Now i know im generally too young to benifit from GH, as in a couple months i'll be 24 years old, but last year i had a horrible bout with adrenal fatigue, that basically impaired my thyroid function aswell. I just finally found some good help to heal my adrenals hopefully,ect, but im pretty sure my GH production has suffered as a result, and some damage has been done.


Basically on my skin and face, and was wondering if running GH at 2iu EOD for a while would help get my elasticity back, get rid of some forhead lines, tighten up the skin, and help with my eye area/sunken under eye look,ect?



At that dose at my age would i have to worry about growing thicker/longer bones, and bigger head, organs,gut,ect? Ive read that only mega dosing can have these effects, but also read some people grew bigger/thicker hands and feet at only 4iu per day.



I do train, ect, aswell, and have never run aas yet, as im happy with my physique naturally for the most part.


Thanks for the help guys!

gustavo77
29-01-2008, 05:26 PM
Let me be the first to welcome you to the site and props to you bro for training to your natural potential and stay clean. As to your question, i do not have any feedback but will bump this up for you, for a educated response. Again, welcome!

Mr Ontario
29-01-2008, 05:45 PM
At that dose at my age would i have to worry about growing thicker/longer bones, and bigger head, organs,gut,ect? Ive read that only mega dosing can have these effects, but also read some people grew bigger/thicker hands and feet at only 4iu per day.

I at 2ius a day I doubt you get the above....but everyone is different!

rizzmatic
29-01-2008, 06:40 PM
Hi my Canadian brothers!


Thanks for the love!



Hmmmm, yeah i guess i'll be taking a bit fo a chance with the bone/organ growth deal, but yeah at 2iu EOD it doesnt seem likely. Just kind of scares me a bit because if it happens its there for good.


Id love to get some other opinions if possible!


Im going to try and get my Doc to test my IGF-1 levels, but you know how anal Canadian Doctors can be! Like pulling teeth!

Mr Ontario
29-01-2008, 07:15 PM
Blood work cost $$$...you could searching and searching for doctor willing to help you...unless you have a specific condition or one good dam story...they couldn't be bothered


Hi my Canadian brothers!


Thanks for the love!



Hmmmm, yeah i guess i'll be taking a bit fo a chance with the bone/organ growth deal, but yeah at 2iu EOD it doesnt seem likely. Just kind of scares me a bit because if it happens its there for good.


Id love to get some other opinions if possible!


Im going to try and get my Doc to test my IGF-1 levels, but you know how anal Canadian Doctors can be! Like pulling teeth!

Rrrrolla
29-01-2008, 09:03 PM
Sup guys, just wanted to start off by saying that its great to find a Canadian board like this.



This may be a dumb question, but ive gotton a bunch of different answers to this question, and wanted to get some of your opinions.




Now i know im generally too young to benifit from GH, as in a couple months i'll be 24 years old, but last year i had a horrible bout with adrenal fatigue, that basically impaired my thyroid function aswell. I just finally found some good help to heal my adrenals hopefully,ect, but im pretty sure my GH production has suffered as a result, and some damage has been done.


Basically on my skin and face, and was wondering if running GH at 2iu EOD for a while would help get my elasticity back, get rid of some forhead lines, tighten up the skin, and help with my eye area/sunken under eye look,ect?



At that dose at my age would i have to worry about growing thicker/longer bones, and bigger head, organs,gut,ect? Ive read that only mega dosing can have these effects, but also read some people grew bigger/thicker hands and feet at only 4iu per day.



I do train, ect, aswell, and have never run aas yet, as im happy with my physique naturally for the most part.


Thanks for the help guys!

I highly doubt if 2iu/day is going to make anything odd happen to you. It is usually said that that dose if just for leaning out, the sides, from what I heard, start at 10iu and up, and that's after long periods of use. You might be an unlucky guy though! Everyone reacts differently.

Big D
29-01-2008, 09:30 PM
my work out partner runs 6ui ed , for the past 6 months and nothing noticable for bone growth.

hope this helps

tony_canuck
29-01-2008, 10:32 PM
like anything, scaling up is the way to go. personally i've run 2iu and had nothing but good things to say

grifter
30-01-2008, 01:04 AM
I would think you would notice other sides, such as hand or foot numbness-pins and needles type feeling before any bone growth. I have tried it and have only gone as high as 6iu day. I never felt any numbness but as mentioned before everyones different and will react differently to the supplements they are taking.

bigdaddydrew123
30-01-2008, 02:53 PM
like anything, scaling up is the way to go. personally i've run 2iu and had nothing but good things to say
what did you notice at 2 iu and how long did it take.im running 2iu myself wondering what to expecyt

Mr Ontario
30-01-2008, 03:04 PM
Fat loss...leaner waist size ...takes about 3-4 weeks depending on what else your using. Wouldn't say it's a miracle drug per ....but depends on the brand and quality as well. Not all GH is created equal!


what did you notice at 2 iu and how long did it take.im running 2iu myself wondering what to expecyt

rizzmatic
30-01-2008, 03:15 PM
Fat loss...leaner waist size ...takes about 3-4 weeks depending on what else your using. Wouldn't say it's a miracle drug per ....but depends on the brand and quality as well. Not all GH is created equal!



Which are the top 3 brands you would say?

Mr Ontario
30-01-2008, 03:34 PM
From the top of my head and in no particular order.
Humantrop
Seizen
Jintropin

ect


Which are the top 3 brands you would say?

bigdaddydrew123
30-01-2008, 07:46 PM
mine are blue tops from china what are they

Mr Ontario
30-01-2008, 07:59 PM
They are generic!

Generic blue tops are made by Kefei (hgh-research.com), then they just sell to others and put their own labels and boxes etc.

Jintropin is very good, Ansomone is very good as well.


If you were to chose between blue tops or Jintropin, stick to Jintropin. To put some size and weight go with hygetropin.

Hope that helps!

mine are blue tops from china what are they

bigdaddydrew123
30-01-2008, 08:25 PM
They are generic!

Generic blue tops are made by Kefei (hgh-research.com), then they just sell to others and put their own labels and boxes etc.

Jintropin is very good, Ansomone is very good as well.


If you were to chose between blue tops or Jintropin, stick to Jintropin. To put some size and weight go with hygetropin.

Hope that helps!
will see how it goes hopin they will heal up some joints and burn fat a little muscled be nice too. just runnin test with it now

Rrrrolla
30-01-2008, 08:25 PM
I was under the impression there were several different manufacturers of gh in China, along with hormone powders. To my knowledge, they are as legit and just as potent as humatrope. I have tried both humatrope and blue tops and they had the exact same side effects happen at the exact same dose for me (painful hand numbness, but only while using high dose EQ, why that was the case I do not know). IMO, it would be silly to pay 20 times as much money for humatrope (unless you have coverage, then you might get away with paying alot less, but you are not going to get enough prescribed to you to run 10iu/day). I've been more than happy with the results I get from gh and igf from china.

bigdaddydrew123
30-01-2008, 08:30 PM
20 times the amount is out for me, new to gh just wondering when and what i will notice.

Mr Ontario
30-01-2008, 08:31 PM
If you have coverage you be paying allot less? if you have coverage then you would be paying nothing. Who in the right mind is going to run 10ius a day...unless your a wrestler/profesional bodybuilder and or can tolerate a such a high dose. lol


I was under the impression there were several different manufacturers of gh in China, along with hormone powders. To my knowledge, they are as legit and just as potent as humatrope. I have tried both humatrope and blue tops and they had the exact same side effects happen at the exact same dose for me (painful hand numbness, but only while using high dose EQ, why that was the case I do not know). IMO, it would be silly to pay 20 times as much money for humatrope (unless you have coverage, then you might get away with paying alot less, but you are not going to get enough prescribed to you to run 10iu/day). I've been more than happy with the results I get from gh and igf from china.

Rrrrolla
30-01-2008, 08:41 PM
Well I wish I had your coverage, I only get 80% back. 10 iu's is not unheard of for a national level competitor. I'm not one, but I know a couple guys who placed less than 3rd in the heavyweight division that use exactly that much for long periods before the nats. Imagine what pros probably use. I used the word probably cause I have no idea really.

St
30-01-2008, 09:59 PM
All i see on the other sites is how everyone loves the blue tops the most.

Mr Ontario
30-01-2008, 10:02 PM
I see the same...but thats what everyone is selling :) it's cheap! and it all depends what you can get a hold of!


All i see on the other sites is how everyone loves the blue tops the most.

St
30-01-2008, 10:04 PM
I see the same...but thats what everyone is selling :) it's cheap! and it all depends what you can get a hold of!

Very true.:D

Mr Ontario
30-01-2008, 10:20 PM
Oh I forgot...must have never tried the real deal....let's Humantrope from Lilly so they can't compare...all they know is blue tops/yellow tops/brown tops....whatever facking tops they are going to come up with next.....let see pink. lol


Very true.:D

Rrrrolla
01-02-2008, 07:13 AM
Oh I forgot...must have never tried the real deal....let's Humantrope from Lilly so they can't compare...all they know is blue tops/yellow tops/brown tops....whatever facking tops they are going to come up with next.....let see pink. lol


You have tried both I take it, and found much better results with humatrope? I have, and I couldn't tell the difference. Did you get less results from Chinese gh?

Turtle
01-02-2008, 11:02 AM
are blue tops hypothetically still bieng made?

Rrrrolla
01-02-2008, 12:40 PM
I heard they are...

bigdaddydrew123
02-02-2008, 02:59 PM
anyone notice feeling lazy on workout days that they take gh. the days i havent taken dh abd train i feel like drivin it but lately the days i take gh i dont have any umph on wo days . maybe its just coincidence

rizzmatic
26-02-2008, 02:32 PM
Just waned to give this a little bump as im going to be 95% trying some GH soon, at 2IU EOD, and was wondering if any other posters had some insight.


Thanks.

shithead
26-02-2008, 02:55 PM
I heard that all GH coming from china is made in the same pharm lab. That its too costly for these generics to have their own lab so the sub contract larger pharm companies to make them and then they relabel them. Dont know if this has any truth to it or not.

fg123
03-09-2009, 12:57 AM
hey great post,
mr. ontario
just wondering why does hygetropin give more size then the others,???
what hgh is better for bone increase,(not real increase just help with age and deterioration) i am fairly thin and have had hereditary history from my family of bone detioration and some members have to take calcium medicine (not supplements, script med)

is hygetropin the best for this?what is best for anti aging

rufusrocks
03-09-2009, 01:32 AM
far as i could tell everyone dies... anti-aging never will happen. but quality and longevity could be changed. without hgh i would say drink tons of milk. my dad is 68 and always drinks milk and could probably beat 80 percent of the peeps on this forum in an arm wrestle. he was a Canadian champ the rest i'll beat them ... lol

Praetorian
03-09-2009, 05:09 PM
Once you finish puberty your bones have sealed you are not going to get any bone growth or enlargement from exo GH even at 10iu per day. You arent going to get organ growth either but you can get some swelling mostly due to excess water. You can run 1iu per day for life extension results...2iu is actually overkill and unnecessary. 2-4 iu is good for fat loss...for growth most will require 6-10iu per day...this of course is in conjuntion with high androgens.
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