STUPID bitch at the pharmacy.....MAD

[dremen]

So i go to buy my pins just now and the old bag says they are out of 25g 1'' pin combo and im shocked cause they said 2 weeks ago they will order a few extra boxes for me......well cause they have none im asking what they DO have and she's getting all pissed with me for making her ****ing work i guess.

Anywho i finaly decided on 21g 1'' as it's all they had besides slin pins and at the checkout she has the nerve to ask me what i need them for so i says "Personal use" and she say "Like What", so rather then be rude and tell her to mind her own ****ing buisness i say it's for vitamin b shots and then the **** says "Ya im sure" and then says she won't be selling me pins anymore?

Anywho im going to buy online from now on or find another pharmacy.

Man i felt like making a HUGE scene right then and there, but i opted to be chill and just take my HUGE ass darts and go home.

Crap 21g with EOD shots is gunna ****ing KILL man. DAMN IT:mad:

[jack_krauser]

sux bro

[waderow]

lol I ran out once and jabbed with 18ga for a week.

You have to push with all your strength until it POPS through the skin LOL Then she is buried to the hilt. The injection is fast like butter though

[ironwill]

canada med supplies...

[natenator]

lmao, I wish we could get a vid of Dreman taking his first shot with the 21's bahah

[dremen]

lol I ran out once and jabbed with 18ga for a week.

You have to push with all your strength until it POPS through the skin LOL Then she is buried to the hilt. The injection is fast like butter though


I've done 21g shots years ago and it gave me bruises every time, **** im just so pissed off right now.

[dremen]

lmao, I wish we could get a vid of Dreman taking his first shot with the 21's bahah


Ya not funny at all nate, cmon man.

[jack_krauser]

lol I ran out once and jabbed with 18ga for a week.

You have to push with all your strength until it POPS through the skin LOL Then she is buried to the hilt. The injection is fast like butter though

Holyshit!!! that is what i draw with. Can't imagine darting with it.

[gsxr750]

Call in tomorrow and complain that a lady there mislabelled your grandmothers prescription and could have resulted in her death..

You have been advised to not discuss further by your lawyer.

GG

[dremen]

Call in tomorrow and complain that a lady there mislabelled your grandmothers prescription and could have resulted in her death..

You have been advised to not discuss further by your lawyer.

GG


Nah bro lieing only causes more problems, thanks though;)

[Talo]

You should write a small email to the company she works for and tell them your situation.

[Durk]

lmao, I wish we could get a vid of Dreman taking his first shot with the 21's bahah

I used those during my first cycle. I am a pussy and usually push it in slow because I always have some sort of messed up fantasy that I am going to hit a nerve. What worse is when you have scar tissues and and you dont really know what you are poking into then you push and push until you hear a crunch.

Thighs scare me so much with this that I will never pin them again.

[talon05]

Oh ya for sure I would so call the company...**** you can make a huge complaint as there is no way she can tell you she wont sell you needles It is none of her buisness what you are dong with them...shit they sell insilin without a script WOW i am blown away what a bitch

[gsxr750]

"What am I doing with them? Don't you watch Dexter?!"

[tex]

ive had this happen to me before...asked me what i was using them for....then they wouldnt sell to me....its against the law...

[Durk]

I usually go in like hi mam I need some syringes for my b-12 shots. Make some small talk have a smile on my face and act the same as I would grocery shopping. I dont even care if the line is around the entire store. I once even got a box of 25G one inchers for half price because the pharmacist bought them for her daughter and didnt need them anymore. Be calm, likeable, have a good story, and you will be suprised at how far even the bitchyest pharmascist will go to help you out.

[dremen]

I usually go in like hi mam I need some syringes for my b-12 shots. Make some small talk have a smile on my face and act the same as I would grocery shopping. I dont even care if the line is around the entire store. I once even got a box of 25G one inchers for half price because the pharmacist bought them for her daughter and didnt need them anymore. Be calm, likeable, have a good story, and you will be suprised at how far even the bitchyest pharmascist will go to help you out.

Im polite all the time, but in now way shape or form am i going to kiss ass so i can get something LEGAL sold to me.

I put up with enough shit as it is already.

Christ you should have seen me when i used to smoke, ****ing 18 year old sand n^&^%@ at the local Mac's store who CAN'T EVEN SPEAK ENGLISH would'nt sell me smokes....DUDE IM OVER 30 and i have a ****ing BEARD gimme my smokes.

Or those times right after work on a friday you go to get a six pack and they ****ing ID YOU and your id is at home, **** SAKES i come here every second friday dumbshits gimme my beer, i have a ****ing beard for **** sakes.

Anywho i don't smoke anymore and maybe 2 beer a month now IF that, but you get my point right?

Good thing it's deads today:D

[Redz]

I have never had issues at any of the shoppers drug marts, walmarts or pharma plus stores I have purchased from. They are always helpful and if they do ask I just smile and laugh and they still help me. The first time I ever bought them they were really nice searching for smaller pins telling me not to get the 22G because it would hurt too much. They eventually found me a few 25G ones. Its just so convenient being able to walk in and get them, I do however worry someone I know will see me buying them.

[baza]

There's only a couple places in Winnipeg that sell syringes, and they know exactly what it's for.

[Vitamin S]

the people at the fukkin drug stores need to calm the fukkk down, i mean its money for them any amount just sell the shit we need.

[RagingRandy]

The thing that bugs me is that they hand them out free at neeedle exchange sites and the people at the drug stores get all "high and mighty". Makes no sense. I get mine here......http://canadianmedsupplies.com/

[dremen]

There's only a couple places in Winnipeg that sell syringes, and they know exactly what it's for.


Hey bro, i drove through there last summer and London Drugs at Saint Vetal mall(sp?) had plenty of 25g 1'' in stock.

Just FYI brudda;)

[grader]

last time i checked it was illegal for them NOT to sell you, i have never had a problem getting mine, i have been asked what there for and told them the truth that it was for an oil based testosterone, they just smiled and said oh ok, i dunno i just cut the crap no point in toeing around it, it could be for things much worse then enhancing my muscles simple as that.

[mayhem]

They have the right to refuse you needles if you don't have a script. It doesn't happen often but there is nothing you can do. If you have a script for something that requires needles, then they cannot refuse them to you.

[Mr Ontario]

I suppose you can tell her that it's for your HTR shots? :)

[theboss]

i buy them by the box....lasts for quite a while.
they actually order in exactly what i need...and if they dont know what i want they hand me the catalog and let me point it out.

[Big D]

I get asked once in a while whats it for, usually because they are trying to help me and find out if slin pins are good enough and i tell them nicely its for IM injections, I never had any problems with any pharmacies.

and I always buy them by the box.

[Danger]

Haha Holier than thou bitches, I had something similar last week with ****ing alcohol wipes. Seriously who gets into other peoples business like that its unbelivable. + It really makes you feel like pulling a Rick James on them bitches.

[_Ragnar_]

Last time i was in shoppers the pharmacist asked me what my pins where for and I told him. He didn't even blink and then handed me my pins and told me to have a nice day.

[L3]

next time you deal with that chick just leave a bunch of unwrapped needle+pin on the counter.

bonus points if they are used

[rated_rko]

onlines better canadamedsupplies...no bs customer service reps just perfect transaction

[tex]

next time you deal with that chick just leave a bunch of unwrapped needle+pin on the counter.

bonus points if they are used xtra points if theres blood visible....a bloody, soiled condom would be better tho....

[monkey]

My last experience with Shoppers was rather unpleasant.. they even told me to go to London Drugs since they might have different policies.. policies aimed against drug users buying pins at shoppers ( ****, I was wearing a suit and look nothing like a drug user.. dumb people..)(

[BAM]

I have never had a problem at a pharmacy ..yet

[natenator]

she must be unionized LOL

[marino]

onlines better canadamedsupplies...no bs customer service reps just perfect transaction

Agreed why argue with some employee who thinks they are going to save the world by not selling you some needles

[Diesel_250]

I had to use a 20g a few times, not to cool. I found that if you keep the skin tight it breaks through the skin a bit easier.

[overboost]

There's only a couple places in Winnipeg that sell syringes, and they know exactly what it's for.

I'm originally from winnipeg and allways got mine from jack andrews pharmacy, allways had a great selection of sizes and lengths. Now i allways go online, can med supplies is where i go these days

[juced_porkchop]

DAM BICH!!! >:-(

yah I got attitude when i went to pick up my DECA a few years ago WITH SCRIPT IN HAND!!
shes like umm I dont think thats for you she say!!!
I respond Ohhh how do you know tht miss?
she then just says the wrighting is too messy tell the doc to give you another script.
I tell her CALL THE DOC AND VERAFIE. she go's away then comes back a few min later and say no awnser sorry.
FUKING BICH!!
went to another shoppers and got it ASAP.

sadly no more deca in canada now. thank the gov and media.

im more worried abotu the AIDS people, not me, I just have hurt back!

[dremen]

DAM BICH!!! >:-(

yah I got attitude when i went to pick up my DECA a few years ago WITH SCRIPT IN HAND!!
shes like umm I dont think thats for you she say!!!
I respond Ohhh how do you know tht miss?
she then just says the wrighting is too messy tell the doc to give you another script.
I tell her CALL THE DOC AND VERAFIE. she go's away then comes back a few min later and say no awnser sorry.
FUKING BICH!!
went to another shoppers and got it ASAP.

sadly no more deca in canada now. thank the gov and media.

im more worried abotu the AIDS people, not me, I just have hurt back!


Damn i doc gave you a script for deca....WOW good pull bro:)

[CanadianIron]

I had this experience once and now I order from CMS everytime...

You should have just told her you needed heroin BAD and all you had was some dirty aids needles your hooker gf gave you.

[Chaps]

So i go to buy my pins just now and the old bag says they are out of 25g 1'' pin combo and im shocked cause they said 2 weeks ago they will order a few extra boxes for me......well cause they have none im asking what they DO have and she's getting all pissed with me for making her ****ing work i guess.

Anywho i finaly decided on 21g 1'' as it's all they had besides slin pins and at the checkout she has the nerve to ask me what i need them for so i says "Personal use" and she say "Like What", so rather then be rude and tell her to mind her own ****ing buisness i say it's for vitamin b shots and then the **** says "Ya im sure" and then says she won't be selling me pins anymore?

Anywho im going to buy online from now on or find another pharmacy.

Man i felt like making a HUGE scene right then and there, but i opted to be chill and just take my HUGE ass darts and go home.

Crap 21g with EOD shots is gunna ****ing KILL man. DAMN IT:mad:

Same sort of bullshit happened to me but with a guy and had the nerve to say "your not doing steroids are you?", i was ready to chocke him.

[waderow]

first time ever buying pins was at a medical supply shop, and the guy saw we were lost, came up asked if oil or water based, and then got us fixed up.
I go there to this day.

[kloan]

^^medical supply shop... good call! never though of that.... :)

[juice555]

The thing that bugs me is that they hand them out free at neeedle exchange sites and the people at the drug stores get all "high and mighty". Makes no sense. I get mine here......http://canadianmedsupplies.com/

I get mine at the free needle exchange. no fuss, no muss. even get a mitt load of free condoms

[guym]

Same sort of bullshit happened to me but with a guy and had the nerve to say "your not doing steroids are you?", i was ready to chocke him.

Answer "YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT!" :p

My question: OK, it's been hammered into everyone; don't use dirty needles/share etc...so why the hell would someone make it HARD to NOT do exactly that? Sure, if its some 8 yr. old who thinks they might be cool to have, that's one thing...

Not to mention they are just starting an argument with no purpose and will do nothing but waste their time (and yours)!

[guym]

first time ever buying pins was at a medical supply shop, and the guy saw we were lost, came up asked if oil or water based, and then got us fixed up.
I go there to this day.

This is a true medical pro. They deserve your business.

[kloan]

Answer "YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT!" :p

My question: OK, it's been hammered into everyone; don't use dirty needles/share etc...so why the hell would someone make it HARD to NOT do exactly that? Sure, if its some 8 yr. old who thinks they might be cool to have, that's one thing...

Not to mention they are just starting an argument with no purpose and will do nothing but waste their time (and yours)!

Simple answer: There are a lot of ****wits on this planet.

[dremen]

I get mine at the free needle exchange. no fuss, no muss. even get a mitt load of free condoms


REALLY?

[juice555]

REALLY?

Yessir.

They even have extra points so you dont have to use the same one that penetrated the rubber stopper. Insulin needles too.

Thanks Canada!:cflag

[dremen]

Yessir.

They even have extra points so you dont have to use the same one that penetrated the rubber stopper. Insulin needles too.

Thanks Canada!:cflag


Well im not really a cheep skate, but maybe this would be a good way of getting some of my tax dollars back.....LOL

How many needles you get each time you go?

[L3]

How many needles you get each time you go?

i get a few handfulls. but they give me BD, i like terumo personally. also they dont generally have the right lengh/gague combo, like my 22's were 1.5"

they also give you free alcohol swipes!!!

[dremen]

i get a few handfulls. but they give me BD, i like terumo personally. also they dont generally have the right lengh/gague combo, like my 22's were 1.5"

they also give you free alcohol swipes!!!

****ing shit man i don't know what's worse, having some shoppers drug mart bitch thinking im a stupid steroid user or some klinic person thinking im a junkie.......LOL

Will look into this...:a+

[natenator]

****ing shit man i don't know what's worse, having some shoppers drug mart bitch thinking im a stupid steroid user or some klinic person thinking im a junkie.......LOL

Will look into this...:a+
If your back is as pathetic lookin as the rest of you I have zero doubt someone believing you to be a junky over a gear user. I mean, really, how could anyone mistake you for a steroid user?

I see why they had a problem with you at the pharmacy.

[dremen]

If your back is as pathetic lookin as the rest of you I have zero doubt someone believing you to be a junky over a gear user. I mean, really, how could anyone mistake you for a steroid user?

I see why they had a problem with you at the pharmacy.


Wow you really are a piece of shit nate.

[Durk]

rofl please, you gotta admit that was a sick burn.

[natenator]

Wow you really are a piece of shit nate.
But at least I am not looking like a piece of shit :D

[natenator]

rofl please, you gotta admit that was a sick burn.
thank you sir!

I aim for your level of awesomeness!

[dremen]

But at least I am not looking like a piece of shit :D

No your just a piece of shit period. Even when i try and keep the peace with you you STILL need to be a total asshole. Is this how you make yourself feel good by talking other people down?

People like you make this world a shittier place.

Guess the CBB rules don't apply to you huh?

"3. Do not flame someone. Be respectful of other opinions. Nothing gets more annoying than watching two or more people ruin a good thread by bashing eachother."

[Durk]

You remind me of Olympian from the nexus. This is the internet dont take things so seriously. You are the one turning it into a fight and P.S. number 3 only states:

"3. Do not flame someone. Be respectful of other opinions. Nothing gets more annoying than watching two or more people ruin a good thread by bashing eachother."

That means you are not respecting nates oppinion that your back looks like shit. I dont care if you dont want to follow this boards rules, but if I had all of that pent up anger I would attack my chin up bar like it stole my lunch......... Instead of crying like a small child about everyone hurting your feelings all the time :)

[dremen]

You remind me of Olympian from the nexus. This is the internet dont take things so seriously. You are the one turning it into a fight and P.S. number 3 only states:

"3. Do not flame someone. Be respectful of other opinions. Nothing gets more annoying than watching two or more people ruin a good thread by bashing eachother."

That means you are not respecting nates oppinion that your back looks like shit. I dont care if you dont want to follow this boards rules, but if I had all of that pent up anger I would attack my chin up bar like it stole my lunch......... Instead of crying like a small child about everyone hurting your feelings all the time :)


Well **** it then im done with this site.

Im gunna go do my own thing and leave the rest of you guys to play your little "Im better then you are" game.

**** this bullshit i've had enough.

[Roid-Monkey]

lol this is why i love montreal, you can go in any pharmarcy ask for syringes and they will gladly give it to you. Some will apologize for not knowing the gauges in stock by heart. I guess we have too many junkies lol.

[big_luse]

Spend the extra 5$ and get some b12 - that will make your story allot more beleivable.

[kloan]

Well **** it then im done with this site.

Im gunna go do my own thing and leave the rest of you guys to play your little "Im better then you are" game.

**** this bullshit i've had enough.

Why not just add him to your ignore list? Not everyone here is out to insult you and/or make you feel bad about yourself. Personally I think the constant rips on your physique are getting pretty ****ing annoying.

[bongd]

If your back is as pathetic lookin as the rest of you I have zero doubt someone believing you to be a junky over a gear user. I mean, really, how could anyone mistake you for a steroid user?

I see why they had a problem with you at the pharmacy.

Christ, you really are one pompous asshole aren't you, nate?

[Durk]

Why not just add him to your ignore list? Not everyone here is out to insult you and/or make you feel bad about yourself. Personally I think the constant rips on your physique are getting pretty ****ing annoying.

Isnt this the third time hes left?

[natenator]

Why not just add him to your ignore list? Not everyone here is out to insult you and/or make you feel bad about yourself. Personally I think the constant rips on your physique are getting pretty ****ing annoying.
Perhaps if other people would say what they were thinking then maybe I wouldn't always come off as the asshole. He looks like he does and is running the cycle that he is and you think that is perfectly acceptable and should be encouraged here?

Oh and the reason I know people don't say what they are thinking is because of the tonnage of green I get (not that I give 2 shits about rep) for people agreeing with me. Yet, oddly enough, won't open their ****ing mouths in the thread to say the same thing.

Truth often hurts.

[faller]

Oh and the reason I know people don't say what they are thinking is because of the tonnage of green I get (not that I give 2 shits about rep) for people agreeing with me. Yet, oddly enough, won't open their ****ing mouths in the thread to say the same thing.

Or maybe it has something to do with the fact that neg reps are no longer an option?? :D

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Didn't read this whole thread. Just wanted to state that YOU CAN BE REFUSED needles, b-12 and insulin by a pharmacist if you don't have a script. Some will ask your personal details and an ID before they sell to you.

It is not common practice to refuse these things but they are allowed to.

[natenator]

Or maybe it has something to do with the fact that neg reps are no longer an option?? :D
Oh, get green with negative comments in them too lol

I'd rather people just say that they wanted to say. I don't take offense when people call me a dick or an asshole or whatever (cue Bam). I know I come off as harsh but at least they know I am honest in what I say.

I am no different on here than I am in person. I say what I feel needs to be said.

[Talo]

I don't take offense when people call me a dick or an asshole or whatever

Your a dick :D

[natenator]

Your a dick :D
if I had a nickel for every time I heard that... ;)

[vakker]

Oh, get green with negative comments in them too lol

I'd rather people just say that they wanted to say. I don't take offense when people call me a dick or an asshole or whatever (cue Bam). I know I come off as harsh but at least they know I am honest in what I say.

I am no different on here than I am in person. I say what I feel needs to be said.

I find people who don't take the time to phrase things in a nice way, might be honest but really are not speaking to help others but rather are speaking to be heard and the fact that they don't bother to rephrase in a kind way and take feelings into account, are just selfish ****tards.

no offence of course.

[Ritch]

Nate, I think how you`re talking to Dremem is very uncool and is just making you look like an asshole. No surprise here... If you`re all about the truth and calling things as they are, why don`t you do it on an even baisis? Call out every single member here who you find has a phyique that dosen`t match what a steroid user should look like. As doing so would only fall into your "telling the truth"

[faller]

I have to agree with you ritch on this one..Most boards i know of have very strict guide lines when it comes to posting in the members pic section. Flameing is not allowed.

[PdH]

Nate's just at the emotional blockage end of the teeter totter right now. He'll start moving back to the other end soon.

No offense Nate, I ride the teeter totter myself.

[natenator]

Nate, I think how you`re talking to Dremem is very uncool and is just making you look like an asshole. No surprise here... If you`re all about the truth and calling things as they are, why don`t you do it on an even baisis? Call out every single member here who you find has a phyique that dosen`t match what a steroid user should look like. As doing so would only fall into your "telling the truth"
Actually, you're right. I should have found a better way to do it. No excuses on that.

However, go read that thread and see how a few others basically said the same thing (only in a nicer fashion) than I did. Dreman then said he was done with the thread.

He wasn't looking for advice or critique and I certainly did not offer any but the fact he is so ignorant to listen to what people other than myself have to say tells me something and it should tell you something as well. I don't have all the answers in this game nor in life for that matter lol. The latter being quite apparent (haha) but when someone with more knowledge than me, more information than me and whose being there and done it more than I has something to say I open my ears and listen.

I've busted my ass before I ever touched gear (so maybe subconsciously that makes me a hater of those I feel who use prior to establishing and significant base) but regardless of that fact, I kept my eyes and ears open and was willing to learn and listen.

Dreman, no matter how nicely he is told does not want to learn or listen to those with more knowledge and experience than he has. Read his posts and see how he responds to people. He doesn't care and while anyone welcomed here (I mean, if I can still be somewhat welcomed here than anyone must be lol) we should want people to at least be open to learning. From his posts I did not see this in him.

So, really... other people told him as I did except they were nicer in their approach and yet he still dismissed him. What I did wrong was calling him stupid (sorry - Dreman) and making fun of his pictures (sorry again, Dreman). Although I was not making fun so much of his pictures but rather the fact he takes the amount of gear he does with what seems like a, still, very novice physique.

[Ritch]

Well it`s good to see you responded as you did Nate. And you do make some valid points. Others did give Dremem the right advice and that is alot of gear for someone who`s where he`s at. And like you I am kind of against anyone who has a certain physique by using so much gear. But sometimes their mindset just can`t be changed unfortunetly...

But making fun of his physique for where it`s at with the amount of juice he`s taking is kind of the same of doing so to his pic. I mean the pics are of his physique, lol... I`ll also confess what you said is often what goes through my mind when I see certain people`s pics and the cycles they post. That`s on one hand...

The other, I kind of can`t blame them to want to get to a certain size as fast as possible. Seeing what others have done almost makes me regret not using gear sooner. I mean look at what a certain member here did in 18 months with the cycles he did. Was he ready to begin juicing when he did? Not really, but the end result is just incredible. So the other hand tells me, maybe that`s what he`s aiming for. I don`t know this for sure however. And also our good friend wasen`t critisized as Dremem is being and that`s what I find is unfair.

It`s just I`m sure many of us are sensitve to what others say to them about their physiques and maybe we should try to be a little more sensitive in how we voice these opinions... Being right or wrong.

But Dremen, I would like to hear you justify why you need so much gear. I don`t know what your past cycles are or how many you`ve done, but that is an advanced cycle. You`re kinda playing all the wild cards with an average hand. When you play the wild cards with a strong hand you then become a force to be reckoned with... I mean if you really plan on being a huge mofo, and need that much gear now, what do you think it will take to get to the next level? I mean your health is being put at risk every time, I`d want that risk to reap maximum rewards when I do the damage... Don`t you?

[AlladdinSane]

I don't wanna make fun of anyone's physique, so I won't.

But I will say that certain people on here have horrid builds for the amount of gear they use and they should, as Nate said, "open their ears and listen to those who know more." Dremen is one of the many, and also happens to be the one posting his pics more than the rest. This makes him easier to "spot".

Right for making fun? No. Did something have to be said? Yes. Nate is correct that a lot of other people agreed with him. I, for one, am glad that "Nate the Hate" was the one to say it, saving me the trouble.

Hopefully the others that have been flying below the radar will take note, reevaluate their ludicrous drug use, and put more effort into the gym and the kitchen.

[z83]

I don't wanna make fun of anyone's physique, so I won't.

But I will say that certain people on here have horrid builds for the amount of gear they use and they should, as Nate said, "open their ears and listen to those who know more." Dremen is one of the many, and also happens to be the one posting his pics more than the rest. This makes him easier to "spot".

Right for making fun? No. Did something have to be said? Yes. Nate is correct that a lot of other people agreed with him. I, for one, am glad that "Nate the Hate" was the one to say it, saving me the trouble.

Hopefully the others that have been flying below the radar will take note, reevaluate their ludicrous drug use, and put more effort into the gym and the kitchen.

Nate is the first to point/bash/hate... but have you seen him help someone ?

[AlladdinSane]

Yes.

Like me, I'm sure he's gotten sick of typing out paragraphs worth of valuable info only to have the advised say that it's too much work and he's just gonna throw anoher gram a week into the mix.

It can get tiring. I know I've gotten short with people in my time on the boards, that's for sure. For instance, this post was only one word when originally posted. I'm trying to turn over a new leaf, though. :P

[z83]

are we surfing the same forum ?

edit : this forum is not only about AAS

[O-Train]

I will admit I had a few asshole comments all typed out and ready to go (in other related threads) but I've been trying to censor myself. A lot of the time Nate says what I'm thinking.

AlladinSane, for some reason, on a farily regular basis, your posts get me up out of my chair and into the kitchen. Today it was 6 poached eggs and 4 pieces of ww toast. Not because I think I'm being referred to, just because I know how big the changes would be if I improved my diet.

[L3]

hilarious the nickname caught on!

[AlladdinSane]

I will admit I had a few asshole comments all typed out and ready to go (in other related threads) but I've been trying to censor myself. A lot of the time Nate says what I'm thinking.

AlladinSane, for some reason, on a farily regular basis, your posts get me up out of my chair and into the kitchen. Today it was 6 poached eggs and 4 pieces of ww toast. Not because I think I'm being referred to, just because I know how big the changes would be if I improved my diet.

Glad I can help, Hurls. Keep eatin', Man.

[Big D]

Just like Mr. O-Train said, usually 90% of the time whatever nate posts I was thinking it.

[natenator]

curious how many PM's you get from people asking you questions and to help them out?

I don't deny being an ass or a dick (how many times do I need to say it?) but I also know my shit. The couple here who know me offline can vouch for that.

Oh and btw? I don't know everything about AAS as I've only been cycling for 3 years (started when I was 30 - day of my bday) but I do know a thing or 2 about diet and training seeing as how I've been training now for close to 19 years (started when I was 14). What do you got?

[natenator]

hilarious the nickname caught on!
haha that's right. You were the first to say it :D

[Ritch]

hilarious the nickname caught on!

You have no idea how many times I`ve laughed by myself thinking about it... I even remember sending you green for that original one.

[Ritch]

Oh and btw? I don't know everything about AAS as I've only been cycling for 3 years (started when I was 30 - day of my bday) but I do know a thing or 2 about diet and training seeing as how I've been training now for close to 19 years (started when I was 14). What do you got?

Been training since the age of 12, turning 33 real soon. That`s almost 21 years!!! Not as big as you however Nate :(

Can`t say I`ve done much gear, do regret not starting earlier, but don`t really plan on doing any more.

[natenator]

Been training since the age of 12, turning 33 real soon. That`s almost 21 years!!! Not as big as you however Nate :(

Can`t say I`ve done much gear, do regret not starting earlier, but don`t really plan on doing any more.
I don't regret not starting earlier. I had lots to learn about me and tons of growing to do naturally. It's amazing how much you can learn about yourself and your abilities when you are natural - everything has to be perfect and in balance. It's quite neat actually.

[Talo]

I started at 16 , now 31 . Can't say I've been a dedicated bber or pl all that time , but over the past 5 years atleast I've increased my body weight by 20 lbs , not much? For me it is and it is all natural. I think to many people take aas just because they don't want to wait. I've always said I will do it sometime in my life , but I'm still making gains in the gym just by doing what these guys say to do - eat and train.

[Ritch]

I don't regret not starting earlier. I had lots to learn about me and tons of growing to do naturally. It's amazing how much you can learn about yourself and your abilities when you are natural - everything has to be perfect and in balance. It's quite neat actually.

That makes perfect sense. I had learned everything I know rather fast and was always looking for supplements to give me steroid like gains and at one point was spending lot`s of $$$ to have a certain look when the cost of the drugs would have been close to what I was spending. I once used the pro steroid called mag10 by Biotest and was using 2 doses a day. That cost $220 a week to use. I know, that`s just nuts... All that just to say I`m natural... When in fact, I wasen`t. I mean show me somebody who weighs 220+ that has a solid look who dosen`t spend alot of cash on their body... But bodybuilding is an expensive hobby as we all know.

I just think in my case I should have gone the steroid route earlier but was always worried about what others would think if they knew I was using them. It`s a weird reason not to do them when you know what kind of diet, training and everything else works for you and you want to get bigger and have already put in 10 years plus of training, why not? I would have had peace of mind by simply looking how I wanted to many years earlier by doing the steroids.

[O-Train]

I don't regret not starting earlier. I had lots to learn about me and tons of growing to do naturally. It's amazing how much you can learn about yourself and your abilities when you are natural - everything has to be perfect and in balance. It's quite neat actually.

Agreed. If you slack on your training, won't grow. Get too lax with your diet or your protein intake drops, won't grow. Stressed out, not sleeping enough, training too much or too little, start missing a workout here and there, won't grow. Stop progressing with your lifts or continue training the same way for a long period of time etc etc...

I have no experience with AAS but I've noticed it with enough guys to be confident that with enough drugs you can half-ass a lot of things and still make gains.

[buildinthaskinnys]

Agreed. If you slack on your training, won't grow. Get too lax with your diet or your protein intake drops, won't grow. Stressed out, not sleeping enough, training too much or too little, start missing a workout here and there, won't grow. Stop progressing with your lifts or continue training the same way for a long period of time etc etc...

I have no experience with AAS but I've noticed it with enough guys to be confident that with enough drugs you can half-assa lot of things and still make gains.

early on you might, but after you have gained the first 15 or 20 pounds of muscle from steroids you cant half ass to make gains anymore, the body just simply does not want to be big, so drugs will only take you so far, just as training or diet will, every part has to be in an equal state of perfection to build maximum muscle size.

[dremen]

He wasn't looking for advice or critique and I certainly did not offer any but the fact he is so ignorant to listen to what people other than myself have to say tells me something and it should tell you something as well. I don't have all the answers in this game nor in life for that matter lol. The latter being quite apparent (haha) but when someone with more knowledge than me, more information than me and whose being there and done it more than I has something to say I open my ears and listen.

I've busted my ass before I ever touched gear (so maybe subconsciously that makes me a hater of those I feel who use prior to establishing and significant base) but regardless of that fact, I kept my eyes and ears open and was willing to learn and listen.

Dreman, no matter how nicely he is told does not want to learn or listen to those with more knowledge and experience than he has. Read his posts and see how he responds to people. He doesn't care and while anyone welcomed here (I mean, if I can still be somewhat welcomed here than anyone must be lol) we should want people to at least be open to learning. From his posts I did not see this in him.

So, really... other people told him as I did except they were nicer in their approach and yet he still dismissed him. What I did wrong was calling him stupid (sorry - Dreman) and making fun of his pictures (sorry again, Dreman). Although I was not making fun so much of his pictures but rather the fact he takes the amount of gear he does with what seems like a, still, very novice physique.



Fact- I bulked up natty from 180lbs to 210-215 before i decided to get back on AAS FYI. http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11154 (http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11154)

Fact- You seem to think i don't want to take ANY advice from ANYONE at ANY given time. You are wrong on this one as you seem to only think the worst of me for some reason. In all honesty i can't find any posts where i ask for advice and then totally just ignore others advice? My workout schedule was made by another member on another board months ago and i still use it along with all other advice i can get from members who seem to want to help not judge and poke fun.

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11609 (http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11609)

Fact- You indeed made fun of my pics, but in order to save face you back peddled and say you’re just making fun of my cycle.

Fact- I've tried to make peace with you more than once in the past few weeks, but it seems you would rather keep knocking me down into some lil hole and show me nothing but disrespect.

Fact- I’m by far the smarted guy around, but when it comes to diet/training I’m giving it all i got right now and no matter what ANYONE thinks i will be 250lbs one day @8%bf because that's what I want.

Fact- You call me ignorant, but when i search through my post history it looks like I’m a happy go lucky member who at times has gotten into it with yourself, wadero and IW, but aside from that just a normal guy.

So nate if you don't like me that's fine bro, but don't think you can call me out and just say shit about me with nothing to back it up aside from your feelings towards me. It would be great if we could get along, but I’ve already tried this with you with poor results so i will just stay away from you and hope for the best.

Now to other members of CBB if i have disrespected you somehow or upset you with my posts then i apologize for this.

EDIT: I admit i sad i would not post here further, but being the best bb site i know of and the fact a lot of my fellow Canadians are here makes this a hard place to leave....lol

[z83]

^^ add him to your ignore list

[vakker]

^^ add him to your ignore list

+1

nate is already on mine.

[PdH]

Can't we all just get along?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/46/139315577_9da8ef2810.jpg

[z83]

Can't we all just get along?

how about NO ?

[ironwill]

Oh here comes more hormonal distress problems...are you a chick...seriously....Not trying to offend chicks....Get over yourself, you arent a big deal, nor will you be 250 at 8 percent......Get over the delusion chief...You dont have the structure, genetics, nor knowledge to get to 220 at 8 percent......Jesus miss dremen........get some help, the lying on the couch sobbing in a darkened room in the fetal position type help....FAST.....


Fact- I bulked up natty from 180lbs to 210-215 before i decided to get back on AAS FYI. http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11154 (http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11154)

Fact- You seem to think i don't want to take ANY advice from ANYONE at ANY given time. You are wrong on this one as you seem to only think the worst of me for some reason. In all honesty i can't find any posts where i ask for advice and then totally just ignore others advice? My workout schedule was made by another member on another board months ago and i still use it along with all other advice i can get from members who seem to want to help not judge and poke fun.

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11609 (http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11609)

Fact- You indeed made fun of my pics, but in order to save face you back peddled and say you’re just making fun of my cycle.

Fact- I've tried to make peace with you more than once in the past few weeks, but it seems you would rather keep knocking me down into some lil hole and show me nothing but disrespect.

Fact- I’m by far the smarted guy around, but when it comes to diet/training I’m giving it all i got right now and no matter what ANYONE thinks i will be 250lbs one day @8%bf because that's what I want.

Fact- You call me ignorant, but when i search through my post history it looks like I’m a happy go lucky member who at times has gotten into it with yourself, wadero and IW, but aside from that just a normal guy.

So nate if you don't like me that's fine bro, but don't think you can call me out and just say shit about me with nothing to back it up aside from your feelings towards me. It would be great if we could get along, but I’ve already tried this with you with poor results so i will just stay away from you and hope for the best.

Now to other members of CBB if i have disrespected you somehow or upset you with my posts then i apologize for this.

EDIT: I admit i sad i would not post here further, but being the best bb site i know of and the fact a lot of my fellow Canadians are here makes this a hard place to leave....lol

[PdH]

how about NO ?

Alright, but you must admit, my photo is amusing. :)

[faller]

Alright, but you must admit, my photo is amusing. :)

NO... Seems to be the direction this board is going though :laugh

[dremen]

Oh here comes more hormonal distress problems...are you a chick...seriously....Not trying to offend chicks....Get over yourself, you arent a big deal, nor will you be 250 at 8 percent......Get over the delusion chief...You dont have the structure, genetics, nor knowledge to get to 220 at 8 percent......Jesus miss dremen........get some help, the lying on the couch sobbing in a darkened room in the fetal position type help....FAST.....


Oh for **** sakes bro YOU ARE the one who acts like "King Shit" around here and your post just proves exactly that.

I don't give 2 shits what u think you trash talking, threat making poor excuse for a human being.

Go sell you ignorant banter elsewhere as I am tired of it.

[L3]

post count, + one.

[z83]

Oh here comes more hormonal distress problems...are you a chick...seriously....Not trying to offend chicks....Get over yourself, you arent a big deal, nor will you be 250 at 8 percent......Get over the delusion chief...You dont have the structure, genetics, nor knowledge to get to 220 at 8 percent......Jesus miss dremen........get some help, the lying on the couch sobbing in a darkened room in the fetal position type help....FAST.....

nate stole IW account ?

[natenator]

nate stole IW account ?
I'm curious as to what kind of great contribution you offer the forum?

[natenator]

Fact- I bulked up natty from 180lbs to 210-215 before i decided to get back on AAS FYI. http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11154 (http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11154)

Fact- You seem to think i don't want to take ANY advice from ANYONE at ANY given time. You are wrong on this one as you seem to only think the worst of me for some reason. In all honesty i can't find any posts where i ask for advice and then totally just ignore others advice? My workout schedule was made by another member on another board months ago and i still use it along with all other advice i can get from members who seem to want to help not judge and poke fun.

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11609 (http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11609)

Fact- You indeed made fun of my pics, but in order to save face you back peddled and say you’re just making fun of my cycle.

Fact- I've tried to make peace with you more than once in the past few weeks, but it seems you would rather keep knocking me down into some lil hole and show me nothing but disrespect.

Fact- I’m by far the smarted guy around, but when it comes to diet/training I’m giving it all i got right now and no matter what ANYONE thinks i will be 250lbs one day @8%bf because that's what I want.

Fact- You call me ignorant, but when i search through my post history it looks like I’m a happy go lucky member who at times has gotten into it with yourself, wadero and IW, but aside from that just a normal guy.

So nate if you don't like me that's fine bro, but don't think you can call me out and just say shit about me with nothing to back it up aside from your feelings towards me. It would be great if we could get along, but I’ve already tried this with you with poor results so i will just stay away from you and hope for the best.

Now to other members of CBB if i have disrespected you somehow or upset you with my posts then i apologize for this.

EDIT: I admit i sad i would not post here further, but being the best bb site i know of and the fact a lot of my fellow Canadians are here makes this a hard place to leave....lol
dude, I actually don't have an issue with you per say. I don't hold a grudge at all against people. I';ve had issues with IronWill but can still say when I agree with something he;s said. I've had issues with BAM but still can agree with something he said (if he actually said anything I agreed with - just kidding! He does a lot of times). I've had issues with Waderow and a bunch of others. Just as they have had issues with me yet they don't hold a grudge against me for something I've said which pissed them off (exception of BAM lol - love you sweety hah).

There is a history here of you telling people to **** off or whatever words you may have used. I don't typically do this. I may not be so wonderful in how I say something as I am very blunt but I don't outright tell people off too often.

I don't need to back peddle from anything I've ever said. I said making direct comments about your pictures was wrong and I admit that. But I also do not back down that for the type of cycle you are running I was expecting more of an advanced physique. I should have said that at the time I suppose but the fact is a few other people made mention of the same thing that I had and you got hostile about it.

That is all. I got no grudge against you personally but while my approach may not be the nicest way possible I would hope that when people who may be a bit more advanced with you say something you at least digest it and listen as really we only want to see you succeed with your goals and the cycle you are running is overkill for the level which you are at right now. We thinking of your health when we say things like that.

Welcome back.

[z83]

I'm curious as to what kind of great contribution you offer the forum?

at least if or when I do, I try for GREAT contribution

[natenator]

at least if or when I do, I try for GREAT contribution
having seen some of your posts I would say otherwise.

[z83]

having seen some of your posts I would say otherwise.

maybe some...not ALL...sorry there is some post you apologize...when the damage is already done

[vakker]

I'm curious as to what kind of great contribution you offer the forum?

I see no worth in any of your insult driven, "blunt" (AKA dick) posts. What do you think you bring to the table other than a high post count and a shitty attitude?

do you think anyone would ask you to come back if you walked?

I don't.

[nii]

^^ add him to your ignore list

My ignore list is so populated, that my 'new posts' button only sees 5 new posts a day. The only pp that i HAVENT added are MP, O_hurley, Pro ..... and ithink thats it. Makes for much lighter reading, christ i didnt even know there was a 'nate' on this board.:D

[natenator]

I see no worth in any of your insult driven, "blunt" (AKA dick) posts. What do you think you bring to the table other than a high post count and a shitty attitude?

do you think anyone would ask you to come back if you walked?

I don't.
Not likely and do I care? People come and go on forums all the time. Pretty sure no one with your whopping contributions would ask you back either.

I thought you had me on ignore?

[natenator]

My ignore list is so populated, that my 'new posts' button only sees 5 new posts a day. The only pp that i HAVENT added are MP, O_hurley, Pro ..... and ithink thats it. Makes for much lighter reading, christ i didnt even know there was a 'nate' on this board.:D
then don'\t respond to my posts :)

[vakker]

Not likely and do I care? People come and go on forums all the time. Pretty sure no one with your whopping contributions would ask you back either.

I thought you had me on ignore?

You were, but someone has to stand up to the badass internet bully.

if you don't care, then **** off and don't come back.

[ironwill]

nate stole IW account ?

Do you ever read dremens posts....????lol, if so you wouldnt be asking this....
Always name calling, always calling out the bitch at the pharmacy, always swearing......etc.....white trash in a fantasy world.....Why call me nate, im not allowed to insult some fella that is mr. negativity, leaving when things get tough a bit, instead of earning respect, he throws insults around.....THE BIGGEST THING THAT PISSES ME OFF ABOUT THE GUY IS THE STUPID INFO HE GIVES OUT, LIKE ABSOLUTELY REDICULOUS FOR ANY NEWBS THAT WOULD READ IT....
It discredits the site having absoultely terrible trng, cycling advice thrown out, i would feel bad for anyone taking it....seriously......
Read his bench advice....dont warm up, just go straight to 315 bench as warming up fatigues your muscles, i saw about 600 silly posts from him, and its old, and makes the board look stupid if someone doesnt say something to correct it....
Nate has his ways, i have mine, wade has his, etc....Experienced guys with physiques and yrs in the trenches to back it up as well....
So thats my hi and mighty post......
Dissappointed to see him back is all....now id like to put him on ignore, but some of us have to correct the insanity.....

[gicantor]

wow I missed the show.........hmmm carry on......

[natenator]

You were, but someone has to stand up to the badass internet bully.

if you don't care, then **** off and don't come back.
stand up? lol

I think the people here are perfectly capable of standing up for themselves but thanks for trying ;)

[vakker]

stand up? lol

I think the people here are perfectly capable of standing up for themselves but thanks for trying ;)

Seriously, You called someone else out on what the bring to the table, why don't you sell yourself to us, so we can understand what we get for putting up with your giant dick posts? you have 3600 posts, please feel free to link us to the ones you feel are the most valuable!

what do you bring to the table?

[natenator]

Seriously, You called someone else out on what the bring to the table, why don't you sell yourself to us, so we can understand what we get for putting up with your giant dick posts? you have 3600 posts, please feel free to link us to the ones you feel are the most valuable!

what do you bring to the table?
go read my posts and you'll see where I've helped people.

but wha wha wha wha wha cry me a river. Booo hooo.

Want some cheese with your whine? What are you? 12? take the sand out of your vagina and get on with the program.

Have a nice day *kiss*

[bongd]

Seriously, You called someone else out on what the bring to the table, why don't you sell yourself to us, so we can understand what we get for putting up with your giant dick posts? you have 3600 posts, please feel free to link us to the ones you feel are the most valuable!

what do you bring to the table?

Don't worry about it. He's got a few helpful posts and is stuck on his high horse now. He brings nothing to the table, he's just a cynical asshole who thinks all his whining and bitching is justified.

He's confided to the forums that he's got mental issues. It's not worth it to argue with him, you're just giving him more flame bait. I'm sure he'll chime in and remind me that I'm a douche, tiny tit, that he's better than me, how he's a vet, etc... ;)

[natenator]

Don't worry about it. He's got a few helpful posts and is stuck on his high horse now. He brings nothing to the table, he's just a cynical asshole who thinks all his whining and bitching is justified.

He's confided to the forums that he's got mental issues. It's not worth it to argue with him, you're just giving him more flame bait. I'm sure he'll chime in and remind me that I'm a douche, tiny tit, that he's better than me, how he's a vet, etc... ;)
I fully admit that I have personal demons to overcome just as many of those who posted in that thread admitted to. By attempting to insult me (which you didn't) you also attempted to insult those others who posted and shared their stories.

Thanks for trying though. D level effort all around :)

Pure quality you are: http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12059&page=2

At least I don't hide behind being a dick.

[C-money]

Do you ever read dremens posts....????lol, if so you wouldnt be asking this....
Always name calling, always calling out the bitch at the pharmacy, always swearing......etc.....white trash in a fantasy world.....Why call me nate, im not allowed to insult some fella that is mr. negativity, leaving when things get tough a bit, instead of earning respect, he throws insults around.....THE BIGGEST THING THAT PISSES ME OFF ABOUT THE GUY IS THE STUPID INFO HE GIVES OUT, LIKE ABSOLUTELY REDICULOUS FOR ANY NEWBS THAT WOULD READ IT....
It discredits the site having absoultely terrible trng, cycling advice thrown out, i would feel bad for anyone taking it....seriously......
Read his bench advice....dont warm up, just go straight to 315 bench as warming up fatigues your muscles, i saw about 600 silly posts from him, and its old, and makes the board look stupid if someone doesnt say something to correct it....
Nate has his ways, i have mine, wade has his, etc....Experienced guys with physiques and yrs in the trenches to back it up as well....
So thats my hi and mighty post......
Dissappointed to see him back is all....now id like to put him on ignore, but some of us have to correct the insanity.....

agreed..

[vakker]

go read my posts and you'll see where I've helped people.

but wha wha wha wha wha cry me a river. Booo hooo.

Want some cheese with your whine? What are you? 12? take the sand out of your vagina and get on with the program.

Have a nice day *kiss*

so this is quality that we want to keep?

you call others out and expect them to respond with validity but when you are called out, you refuse and make internet kisses at other men.


awesome.

[nii]

I miss the days when IW was a mod, he would shutdown anyone who ****ed with him, and mess with the loudmouths just for fun :ne

Is it me, or is there a correlation between nate being sick, and the quality of his posts going up :ne

[bongd]

I fully admit that I have personal demons to overcome just as many of those who posted in that thread admitted to. By attempting to insult me (which you didn't) you also attempted to insult those others who posted and shared their stories.

Thanks for trying though. D level effort all around :)

Pure quality you are: http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12059&page=2

At least I don't hide behind being a dick.

Everyone has skeletons in the closet but confession doesn't mean vindication, my friend. I've also had my share of **** ups and mental instability, but it doesn't show on the surface. It shouldn't if you can be a man about it and not let it rise to the surface inappropriately. I respect your posts in that thread and can relate, but I'm talking about here and now.

I'm definitely cynical and will snap back with a cocky comment here and there, but it's all in good nature. Your humor on the other hand is harsh and just uncalled for.

IMO, there are just some lines you don't step across. Even if the person is a douche bag. If they're a douche bag, they probably know it and struggle to cope with their epic douchbaggery. I haven't analyzed dremen's pics but if he's a twig that shouldn't be juicing, oh well. At least his dealer is pulling in money. Let karma run it's course.


Not trying to step up on any soapbox; everyone will do as they wish. I just think you don't step over some lines. If someone has a glaring appearance problem like cystic acne, I won't call them a pizza face even if they're a douche. That's a low blow. If I've railed a cougar and know that her son's a douchebag, I'm not going to inform him that his mother needs to bleach her anus so that she's more presentable next time I take her for a spin. He surely has challenges of his own and doesn't need me hitting him below the belt. I'm sure you see my point? ;)

[Ritch]

Sure are alot of people with sand in their vagina`s these days huh Nate?

[kloan]

I live at the beach, what's everyone else's excuse?

[ironwill]

lolol...^^^^good one, im gonna remember that one....

[natenator]

so this is quality that we want to keep?

you call others out and expect them to respond with validity but when you are called out, you refuse and make internet kisses at other men.


awesome.
Call me out all you want. I've admitted to being an asshole and I apologize when I am/have been. I said outright that what I said about Dremen's pics were wrong and I shouldn't have said what I said.

I don't skirt the issue or hide from the fact. Call me out all you want, plenty here do. We're all grown ups. It's the internet man. Is it really that big of a deal to you?

If I don't take offense to what someone says about me.

[natenator]

Everyone has skeletons in the closet but confession doesn't mean vindication, my friend. I've also had my share of **** ups and mental instability, but it doesn't show on the surface. It shouldn't if you can be a man about it and not let it rise to the surface inappropriately. I respect your posts in that thread and can relate, but I'm talking about here and now.

I'm definitely cynical and will snap back with a cocky comment here and there, but it's all in good nature. Your humor on the other hand is harsh and just uncalled for.

IMO, there are just some lines you don't step across. Even if the person is a douche bag. If they're a douche bag, they probably know it and struggle to cope with their epic douchbaggery. I haven't analyzed dremen's pics but if he's a twig that shouldn't be juicing, oh well. At least his dealer is pulling in money. Let karma run it's course.


Not trying to step up on any soapbox; everyone will do as they wish. I just think you don't step over some lines. If someone has a glaring appearance problem like cystic acne, I won't call them a pizza face even if they're a douche. That's a low blow. If I've railed a cougar and know that her son's a douchebag, I'm not going to inform him that his mother needs to bleach her anus so that she's more presentable next time I take her for a spin. He surely has challenges of his own and doesn't need me hitting him below the belt. I'm sure you see my point? ;)
I agree with all you said but and I've already owned up to what I said about his pics being wrong despite the fact I wasn't knocking the pictures as much as I was that he was running the cycle he was. Either way as I previously admitted there was no excuse to the manner in which I went about it.

I'm a big boy and can admit when I was wrong.

But where do we draw the line? Someone posts a picture and while they are not asking for advice should we not say something to that person IF 1+1 doesn't equal 2 in what we're seeing in the pic what they're doing? What about the 18 year old that asks for cycle feedback? Should we just offer up the feedback while discounting the person is 18?

I would hope someone told me when I was being a dumb-ass. Which, you folks remind me on a regular basis and I try to tone it down a bit when I remember to ;) Not everything I say to someone is done so with hate or malice. Perhaps it's done so in a way to try and hammer home a point because I've either been down the road before and have the scars to prove it or have seen others go down the same road and have the memories to prove it.

My uncle used to tell me over and over and over about various things to avoid doing in life and I never listened and always took my own path in life. A lot of times I wish I had of listened instead of being so stubborn to think I knew better or wouldn't make the same mistakes he did.

Anyway I'm done with this thread. Keep the bashing going.

Dreman welcome back and I definitely don't hold a grudge against you. IronWill on the other hand... lol And yes I do apologize for the harshness of my words being directed at your physique. Not cool.

[vakker]

In all reality you should realize that, whatever it is your are on, is affecting you. You post here with a hostile attitude, take a couple hour break and come back completely reasonable.

Maybe the next time you call someone out or get called out, you should go for a walk, or count to ten, or whatever the rest of us learned in elementary school.



Call me out all you want. I've admitted to being an asshole and I apologize when I am/have been. I said outright that what I said about Dremen's pics were wrong and I shouldn't have said what I said.

I don't skirt the issue or hide from the fact. Call me out all you want, plenty here do. We're all grown ups. It's the internet man. Is it really that big of a deal to you?

If I don't take offense to what someone says about me.

[natenator]

In all reality you should realize that, whatever it is your are on, is affecting you. You post here with a hostile attitude, take a couple hour break and come back completely reasonable.

Maybe the next time you call someone out or get called out, you should go for a walk, or count to ten, or whatever the rest of us learned in elementary school.
You should probably just put me back on ignore ;)

clean here sir!

[natenator]

Sure are alot of people with sand in their vagina`s these days huh Nate?
he he he :D

[bongd]

I agree with all you said but and I've already owned up to what I said about his pics being wrong despite the fact I wasn't knocking the pictures as much as I was that he was running the cycle he was. Either way as I previously admitted there was no excuse to the manner in which I went about it.

I'm a big boy and can admit when I was wrong.

But where do we draw the line? Someone posts a picture and while they are not asking for advice should we not say something to that person IF 1+1 doesn't equal 2 in what we're seeing in the pic what they're doing? What about the 18 year old that asks for cycle feedback? Should we just offer up the feedback while discounting the person is 18?

I would hope someone told me when I was being a dumb-ass. Which, you folks remind me on a regular basis and I try to tone it down a bit when I remember to ;) Not everything I say to someone is done so with hate or malice. Perhaps it's done so in a way to try and hammer home a point because I've either been down the road before and have the scars to prove it or have seen others go down the same road and have the memories to prove it.

My uncle used to tell me over and over and over about various things to avoid doing in life and I never listened and always took my own path in life. A lot of times I wish I had of listened instead of being so stubborn to think I knew better or wouldn't make the same mistakes he did.

Anyway I'm done with this thread. Keep the bashing going.

Dreman welcome back and I definitely don't hold a grudge against you. IronWill on the other hand... lol And yes I do apologize for the harshness of my words being directed at your physique. Not cool.

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[C-money]

Yeahhhh Budday!! ^^^^

[faller]

Geezus holy shit C-money!!!! Is that you in the Avi???

[PdH]

Geezus holy shit C-money!!!! Is that you in the Avi???

He's kinda swole isn't he.

[dremen]

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[_Ragnar_]

Can we please keep the porn in the naughty section!

[C-money]

Geezus holy shit C-money!!!! Is that you in the Avi???

yea bro.. this was a couple days ago.. this bulk has been fantastic.. staying nice and lean compared to previous years. going to try slowly adding more size and try to stay in this conditioning... (crossing fingers)


He's kinda swole isn't he.
ha thanks P!

[monkey]

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