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musclehead123
12-11-2009, 02:17 AM
hey bros,
I got some chinese hcg that in a vial, I was just wondering how many CCs can those vials hold?
kloan
12-11-2009, 02:59 AM
is it one of the little ones? if so, that's only 1cc. you'll need to add the BW to reconstitute it then use a syringe to extract it and transfer it to a sterile vial where you can add more BW to it to dilute it further.
gustavo77
12-11-2009, 01:13 PM
I can fit 2cc's in that little vial.
Ritch
12-11-2009, 01:20 PM
I can fit 2cc's in that little vial.
I put 2 as well.
musclehead123
12-11-2009, 03:44 PM
I can fit 2cc's in that little vial.
Do you recommend using the same vial it came with or take it out and put it into another vial?
same vial is fine, i inject 1cc of air in first tho before the BSW, the vaccum on those babies is insane!
ironwill
12-11-2009, 04:47 PM
Do you recommend using the same vial it came with or take it out and put it into another vial?
use the same vial and 2 ccs is fine...
Mr Ontario
12-11-2009, 04:52 PM
is not putting 2cc of bactowater in is diluting it more then is needed? hence your not getting the 5000ius required per amp?
gustavo77
12-11-2009, 05:20 PM
is not putting 2cc of bactowater in is diluting it more then is needed? hence your not getting the 5000ius required per amp?
Lol....no matter how much water you use, it will always be 5000iu per vial...:moon
Average 270lb Guy
12-11-2009, 08:18 PM
I have been able to fit 3cc's of water into those vials no problem.
kloan
12-11-2009, 08:28 PM
Are we talkin about the same little vials? The snap off tops? The Pregnyls I have only hold 1cc of liquid. Since it's not sealed I opted to use a bigger, sterile vial to transfer the solution to and added another 4cc of BW to make it 5000iu per 5ml.
Which I then preloaded 1/4cc in 20 syringes to make 250iu per shot.
Does the generic chinese hcg come in crimp top vials?
Mr Ontario
12-11-2009, 09:32 PM
Here bitcha :)
Are we talkin about the same little vials? The snap off tops? The Pregnyls I have only hold 1cc of liquid. Since it's not sealed I opted to use a bigger, sterile vial to transfer the solution to and added another 4cc of BW to make it 5000iu per 5ml.
Which I then preloaded 1/4cc in 20 syringes to make 250iu per shot.
Does the generic chinese hcg come in crimp top vials?
gicantor
12-11-2009, 09:43 PM
^^^ I shoot 2ml's of bacwater into those. Always tons of room left. I pull from those vials too.
kloan
12-11-2009, 10:12 PM
Here bitcha :)
ahhhh.... well there ya go.
those pucks look huge compared to the tiny little speck thats in the pregnyl.
Retics
12-11-2009, 10:15 PM
what is the proper dose an when? mid cycle or at the end? I have only used nolva an clomid before cause I couldnt find any HGC.
gustavo77
12-11-2009, 10:19 PM
ahhhh.... well there ya go.
those pucks look huge compared to the tiny little speck thats in the pregnyl.
Yaaa...but 99% of that is filler bro...5000iu of HCG and very, very small...
gustavo77
12-11-2009, 10:20 PM
what is the proper dose an when? mid cycle or at the end? I have only used nolva an clomid before cause I couldnt find any HGC.
I suggest you run HCG from the beginning of the cycle right up till pct...250-500iu twice per week, ie mon/thurs. Take your last shot of HCG 3-4 days before you start pct drugs.
kloan
12-11-2009, 11:04 PM
Yaaa...but 99% of that is filler bro...5000iu of HCG and very, very small...
lol, i wonder why they even bother...
Retics
12-11-2009, 11:45 PM
Ok thx Gastavo77
Dr.Dose
13-11-2009, 12:12 AM
lol, i wonder why they even bother...
Well, they bother as it is just not filler. Most of it is actually stabilizers in there to protect the HCG from deteriorating, and to preserve it.
kloan
13-11-2009, 12:14 AM
Well, they bother as it is just not filler. Most of it is actually stabilizers in there to protect the HCG from deteriorating, and to preserve it.
So does that make it better and/or last longer than name brand HCG? Such as making it last longer after reconstituting?
Dr.Dose
13-11-2009, 12:18 AM
So does that make it better and/or last longer than name brand HCG? Such as making it last longer after reconstituting?
No, it does not matter if name brand or not. It has to be done this way in order to preserve it and protect it from degrading. Organon does it like this as well, every company that makes HCG does. HGH is the same thing.
kloan
13-11-2009, 01:07 AM
No, it does not matter if name brand or not. It has to be done this way in order to preserve it and protect it from degrading. Organon does it like this as well, every company that makes HCG does. HGH is the same thing.
I don't think so... the Pregnyl I have looks a lot smaller than what's in those chinese generics.
meathead
13-11-2009, 02:58 AM
same vial is fine, i inject 1cc of air in first tho before the BSW, the vaccum on those babies is insane!
The vacuum in those sucked the water right out of my syringe ;)
gustavo77
13-11-2009, 08:12 AM
I don't think so... the Pregnyl I have looks a lot smaller than what's in those chinese generics.
There are still fillers in the Organon to protect the HCG from degrading...whether there is slightly less filler in the Organon than the Chinese HCG means nothing...
Dr.Dose
13-11-2009, 09:56 AM
I don't think so... the Pregnyl I have looks a lot smaller than what's in those chinese generics.
Organon may just use the min amount required/needed for this process. The china ones may use more then required or a totally different composition of stabilizers and fillers. It does not mean there is anything more or less with the actual concentration of HCG. You can have it made so that the vial is filled to the top with stabilizers and fillers and it can still have 5000iu HCG.
kloan
13-11-2009, 05:28 PM
Oh my god, that was exactly my point!
Christ, go back and re-read what I posted.
Hell, I'll do it for you.
Me: the stuff in that look a lot bigger than the prgnyl I have
Gus: it's mostly filler
Me: I wonder why they bother (since pregnyls don't)
Dr dose: actually it's not filler it's mostly stabilizer
Me: to make it last longer? (than organon - again, what I'm comparing to)
Dr dose: no they're all like that even organon
Me: actually no because I have organon and they're not like that
Both of you: stating the obvious and reiterating what I already said
That was fun let's do it again sometime.. :D
gustavo77
13-11-2009, 06:07 PM
Quote Kloan: "Me: I wonder why they bother (since pregnyls don't)"
Pregnyl DO contain filler...
kloan
13-11-2009, 07:02 PM
Quote Kloan: "Me: I wonder why they bother (since pregnyls don't)"
Pregnyl DO contain filler...
lol... w/e man we're goin in circles. it was just a simple question.. why is one bigger than the other for the same amount of active ingredient... i dont care anymore.
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