Winstrol

[vakker]

Can i drink it?

No, just kidding.

I am confused. I am now in week 5 of 1g a week of test enth and I've started winstrol, It has done two things to me; made me horny as shit (jerking off 4-5 times a day) and made me just beyond lethargic. Feel like i need 16 hours of sleep and a nap in between.

This happen to anyone else or anyone know why?

[Danger]

Your already taking 1g of test a week and you diddnt feel horny as shit until you started the winny... man Id be beating it 24/7 with just the test.

[baza]

Most likely just feeling the effects of the test... though it is pretty late.

[vakker]

Your already taking 1g of test a week and you diddnt feel horny as shit until you started the winny... man Id be beating it 24/7 with just the test.

no, HRT doses make me spank it like a monkey, higher doses don't, don't matter the company or ester, just the way I react.

I actually thought the winstrol was hitting my SBHG? or something? I don't know.

[marino]

raging boners = test

feeling lethargic could be winny not for me though, but I did get really sleepy from var its possible

[gustavo77]

no, HRT doses make me spank it like a monkey, higher doses don't, don't matter the company or ester, just the way I react.

I actually thought the winstrol was hitting my SBHG? or something? I don't know.

Thats cause with higher doses of test comes higher levels of estrogen and as a result higher levels of SHBG. And although winny does not lower estrogen, I have read that it does decrease SHBG.

[HoliTheCat]

Thats cause with higher doses of test comes higher levels of estrogen and as a result higher levels of SHBG. And although winny does not lower estrogen, I have read that it does decrease SHBG.

I love the combination of test and winni.

Seems to me that winni isn't used nearly as much as it was 6 or 7 years go. Never really understood why.

[nitrous]

oral winny lowers SHBG.. injectable winny does not...

so thats not it.. its the test kicking in hard

[JonnyO]

Maybe your tired from all the jerking off, lol.



oral winny lowers SHBG.. injectable winny does not...


Can you explain this for me, how can oral be any different than inj in regards to shbg?

[hyperlite32]

^^LOL^^

[nitrous]

Can you explain this for me, how can oral be any different than inj in regards to shbg?

"A fairly conservative oral dose of .2mg/kg of Winstrol has been shown to lower SHBG by close to 50%. (8)For me (200lbs) this would mean I would only need around 18mgs/day to free up half of my SHBG bound testosterone! For my omnipresent and hypothetical “100kg bodybuilder”- only 20mgs would be needed (he’s 220 lbs for the metrically impaired among us). Now, with less SHBG floating around in me, my anabolic steroid cycle will be more effective, right? Right.

But why can we only expect such a dramatic lowering of SHBG with the oral? Well, obviously, we’re taking advantage of the first pass through the liver, where we can have our Winstrol interact with SHBG where it’s produced- in the liver…without going through the bloodstream first.

When we take a look at a study done comparing injectable vs. oral contraceptives, we find that the oral version at 70mgs/week (10mgs/day given orally) is more effective at affecting SHBG levels than 400mgs/week given via an injection! (9)In this study, testosterone undecanoate was given at a constant dose along with norestisterone (which raises SHBG). What we see is that when norestisterone is given orally, it produces a far greater effect on SHBG, than when it is administered via an injection. And this is even when the doses of the injectable are 4x higher!"

source: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/anthony-roberts/winstrol-oral-versus-injectable.htm

[Praetorian]

Taking winstrol offseason is one...a waste of money and two...dangerous...ive seen many tendon ruptures because of it.
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[vakker]

Taking winstrol offseason is one...a waste of money and two...dangerous...ive seen many tendon ruptures because of it.
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I am not a bodybuilder, nor will I ever be. I take it because my body reacts very kindly to it and makes me strong as shit.

[Praetorian]

I am not a bodybuilder, nor will I ever be. I take it because my body reacts very kindly to it and makes me strong as shit.

It has nothing to do with being a BB....winstrol has unique properties that put tendons at risk especially in the offseason when lifting heavy. When you lose the elasticity and tendon durability you put yourself at a huge risk for rupture.
If you'd like to learn the hard way..be my guest.
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[tex]

I am not a bodybuilder, nor will I ever be. I take it because my body reacts very kindly to it and makes me strong as shit. and the fast increase in strength coupled with your brittle tendons put you at great increase for ruptured tendons. 1+1=2 ;)

[nitrous]

ya i would never take winny for strength.. a lot of better products for that.. even var has a good strength increase in my opinion

[Rhinobolt10]

of course i just started taking winny for strength.... gah...

[bluesteal]

It has nothing to do with being a BB....winstrol has unique properties that put tendons at risk especially in the offseason when lifting heavy. When you lose the elasticity and tendon durability you put yourself at a huge risk for rupture.
If you'd like to learn the hard way..be my guest.
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i dont understand. how does winni have an effect on your tendons. is it because your muscles are bigger then normal so theres add pressure to them?

[juced_porkchop]

oral winny lowers SHBG.. injectable winny does not...

so thats not it.. its the test kicking in hard

that is not true both do , both are liver toxic, both will pass threw the liver. both are 17AA like other orals.
both will lower SHBG

[GYMBRAT]

x2, absolutely true

[rickyboy36]

The reason why winny is hard on the joints and tendons is because it "dries" up the water surrounding them and the muscle.With less water,you have less lubrication.Thats why it has such a nice cosmetic look to it.It takes water out from the skin as well and gives you that hard look.People mistakingly think that winny makes you lose fat where in fact it only sucks the water out of you.

But Prae,I would of thought that cutting would be worse.You are already dehydrated and still trying to lift as heavy as you can.Id only use it if i was doing more of a high volume,low intensity workout program..

[juced_porkchop]

The reason why winny is hard on the joints and tendons is because it "dries" up the water surrounding them and the muscle.With less water,you have less lubrication.Thats why it has such a nice cosmetic look to it.It takes water out from the skin as well and gives you that hard look.People mistakingly think that winny makes you lose fat where in fact it only sucks the water out of you.

But Prae,I would of thought that cutting would be worse.You are already dehydrated and still trying to lift as heavy as you can.Id only use it if i was doing more of a high volume,low intensity workout program..

not the main reez, you get a bit dryer but the tendons grow brittle as the growth is speed up but the cross linking in the tendons is not so they will get a bit bigger BUT not be as strong.
(like having a bedsheet thats not tightly weaved in a way)

atleast to what Iv read

[juced_porkchop]

i find deca and winny go nice together (ofcourse with some test)

Tbol i like more thow less sides

[rated_rko]

i find deca and winny go nice together (ofcourse with some test)

Tbol i like more thow less sides

im thinking the same thing winny with deca

[tex]

The reason why winny is hard on the joints and tendons is because it "dries" up the water surrounding them and the muscle.With less water,you have less lubrication.Thats why it has such a nice cosmetic look to it.It takes water out from the skin as well and gives you that hard look.People mistakingly think that winny makes you lose fat where in fact it only sucks the water out of you.

But Prae,I would of thought that cutting would be worse.You are already dehydrated and still trying to lift as heavy as you can.Id only use it if i was doing more of a high volume,low intensity workout program.. aaaaaand....winny makes your tendons grow...but in doing so it makes them brittle.....ouch......