View Full Version : Ever feel like you want more?
kloan
10-11-2009, 12:04 AM
I'm approaching 5 weeks and I honestly feel like I want more.... more of everything... (not sides of course).
So far I haven't really noticed much along the lines of sides... perhaps some puffiness in my nips, which may or may not be paranoia... I started .5mg caber and 25mg aromasin 2x week and it seems to be doin the trick.
I'm not really feelin the tren rage people talk about.. a little more aggression than usual, but handling it fine so far. I'm not getting the night sweats and no insomnia either. I should mention, my libido seems to be kinda low right now... it was ragin a couple weeks ago, but seems to have tapered down significantly.
I just feel like I can handle more... is this an indication of underdosed gear (perhaps the tren hex really is only 100mg/ml afterall??), or am I just being impatient - or just getting used to the effects of this cycle?
Input from experienced users of tren, etc please chime in so I don't do anything I'll regret (ie: up my dosages).
waderow
10-11-2009, 12:09 AM
tren related sides have a nasty habit of sneakin up on ya.... then whammo. the damage is done
kloan
10-11-2009, 12:11 AM
hmm... so yer sayin i should play it safe and ride this one out as is?
Solo59
10-11-2009, 12:52 AM
If you're willing to experiment with higher doses, I'm willing to read about it.
Solo;)
kloan
10-11-2009, 04:00 AM
^^haha
rated_rko
10-11-2009, 07:06 AM
how do u find the eq? helping your appetite at all?
kloan
10-11-2009, 07:42 AM
Seems like it. I find it easier to eat foods I find boring. I get pretty damn hungry every couple hours as well. I normally have a pretty healthy appetite most days, though recently I've been hungry every day, even when I'm feeling out of it. I also find I keep eating even when I start to feel full.
I think I really started to feel the effects when I was still doing keto. The cravings got intense and nothing I ate was satisfying me. I really felt like I had to start eating carbs again, and I'm glad I did.
I'm sure I'd have an even bigger appetite at 600mg/week, but because it's mixed with the test, it's staying the same. I'm probably going to stick with the original plan and use my other bottles of test to bump it up to 650mg/week test e.
TryGear
10-11-2009, 08:41 AM
may be greed, I always get the results I plan for and size and strength to match but I always feel like more is better too, and can never stick to a planned cycle, always adding something halfway through it.
I always want to do more. But I don't want more sides so I don't. If I didn't get sides at all I would definitely use higher dosages. Consequences ruin all kinds of fun/feel good things. :(
bongd
10-11-2009, 02:16 PM
Almost everyone wants to change it up once they start a cycle. I lay out what I'd "like" my cycle to be, but I know I will always change something along the line.
With tren, that's something I don't increase. I've only done 75mg EOD at the most and that was almost intolerable. I'd start upping other androgens before tren. When you've got a few hundred mgs of tren in your system each week, raising the bar isn't really worth it, imho. I'd go with more test or more EQ. You should stay hard as nails and tighter than a nun's SEE-YOU-NEXT-TUESDAY. Any "bloat" should stay in your muscle bellies and shouldn't spill underneath your skin too much if your diet is on point. If you need, take more AIs or do with something a bit more gentle like aromasin. A little estrogen is awesome unless you're prone to gyno or bloat badly.
Let us know how things are in a few weeks! Have fun in the gym.
natenator
10-11-2009, 02:25 PM
I honestly do not find I get a whole lot more aggressive with AAS (halo might be the ONLY thing which gets me pressure up). I find myself more mellow in general and that's even while on tren.
Solo59
10-11-2009, 02:44 PM
I honestly do not find I get a whole lot more aggressive with AAS (halo might be the ONLY thing which gets me pressure up). I find myself more mellow in general and that's even while on tren.
Maybe that's because you have mellow relationships, Nate. I think I'm laid back, too, until someone gets in my face with unwarranted accusations or cuts me off in traffic or breaks into a line-up in front of me. What would normally be just an impatient dismissal begins to pulse & growl like real anger in me. With elevated hormones, I'd think that's only natural. Never happened to you?
Solo
natenator
10-11-2009, 02:47 PM
Maybe that's because you have mellow relationships, Nate. I think I'm laid back, too, until someone gets in my face with unwarranted accusations or cuts me off in traffic or breaks into a line-up in front of me. What would normally be just an impatient dismissal begins to pulse & growl like real anger in me. With elevated hormones, I'd think that's only natural. Never happened to you?
Solo
I have a temper like crazy when off. So maybe when I'm on I just do better to try and control it?
Sure, stupid things can piss me off but I'm like that on or off.
punkrock
11-11-2009, 05:05 PM
I like to find a comfortable level for myself, usually seems to be up from what i've originally planned though. My last cycle was planned at 500mg test e and 40mg anavar and it ended up being 650mg test e and 80mg anavar. I'd just say don't up everything at once! I know I'm not too expierienced but those words came from a few guys who are.
Of course if your getting bad sides that a good indication not to go up hahaha
Danger
11-11-2009, 05:13 PM
I have a temper like crazy when off. So maybe when I'm on I just do better to try and control it?
Sure, stupid things can piss me off but I'm like that on or off.
Im the same and I think your right, when your on AAS its just something your more aware of.
As far as increasing doses goes who doesn't want to, personally its a constant battle not too and it seems to be the same for most of the guys I know who train. I think bodybuilding just attracts people with similar mentalities.
I'm not an experienced tren user but I found 50mg/day to be ALOT I've actually dialed back to dose and my results have still continued to improved I personally would never take tren if it wasn't ace and dosed ed/eod because I like being able to sleep.
kloan
11-11-2009, 05:19 PM
Little things have been setting me off a little more than usual, but I'm pretty much keeping it under control.
I still haven't experienced any sleep disruptions or night sweating... I'm a bit baffled actually.
natenator
11-11-2009, 05:22 PM
Little things have been setting me off a little more than usual, but I'm pretty much keeping it under control.
I still haven't experienced any sleep disruptions or night sweating... I'm a bit baffled actually.
I don'\t get the sleep or night sweat issues...
Danger
11-11-2009, 05:23 PM
^^^ Lucky bastards!
kloan
11-11-2009, 05:26 PM
I don'\t get the sleep or night sweat issues...
ive been wondering if anyone else didn't get those symptoms... guess i can relax a bit then.
tony_canuck
11-11-2009, 08:22 PM
ive been wondering if anyone else didn't get those symptoms... guess i can relax a bit then.
i never got these either, but then again i never ramped up my dosage too much
dremen
11-11-2009, 08:40 PM
Little things have been setting me off a little more than usual, but I'm pretty much keeping it under control.
I still haven't experienced any sleep disruptions or night sweating... I'm a bit baffled actually.
I just added a cut stack to my cycle(test/tren/mast) and once again i have to say i LOVE TREN and in low doses.
When just running test i can get pissed off very easy, but when i add in tren(always been ace)im super calm. When i run tren i sleep better, eat more, lose fat faster and grow quicker with no sides aside from puffy nips some days.
I have no idea why tren calms me down, but it does and i like it.
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