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OntariOMuscle101
06-11-2009, 01:20 AM
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Ok I am going to be running a bulker starting Nov 15 consisting of TestE 500mg/Week for 10 weeks, kickstart with M-1-T 10mg-20mg/ED for 4 weeks follwed by proper PCT, also got Dostinex on hand jsut incase prolactin gyno sets in with M-1-T. I have had my diet in check for the last month leading up to Nov 15 start date.

My question is how does this after bulk cutting stack look? 10 week rest! Then:

Test Prop 450mg/Week 1 - 12
Tren Ace 450mg/Week 1 - 12
Mast Prop 450mg/Week 1 - 12
**HCG will be incorporated in this cycle as well, followed by Proper PCT.

Strict diet mostly consisting of Chicken, fish, rice, yams/sweet potatoes, green veggies. 3 Isolate-protein shakes per day with 50-75g of protein. No cheat meals @ all. Planning on cardio 3-4 times per week, I am aware that Tren effects cardio but oh well. Also this will be my 7th cycle after my Nov 15 bulker which would be my 6th.

nisser
06-11-2009, 01:51 AM
too much tren for too long.

OntariOMuscle101
06-11-2009, 03:33 PM
too much tren for too long.

Really I have seen cycles that are longer and use more tren. I read that 350mg-450mg is a good starting point, minding if thie sides arent too bad.

**Also will be adding Anavar 80-100mg for the last six weeks lesding right up to my PCT.

nisser
07-11-2009, 12:02 AM
Really I have seen cycles that are longer and use more tren. I read that 350mg-450mg is a good starting point, minding if thie sides arent too bad.

**Also will be adding Anavar 80-100mg for the last six weeks lesding right up to my PCT.

I'm sure you've seen cycles that use more tren but in the many years I've been on this board I can't remember anyone running or even suggesting running 125mg tren a EOD...and you're doing more that that.

A good starting point is 50mg EOD.

kloan
07-11-2009, 12:40 AM
Are you sure you don't have ED and EOD mixed up nisser??

175mg/week is low. I haven't seen anyone run that low.

St
07-11-2009, 07:48 AM
Looks good,but if i were you i wouldn't go any higher than 300mg of Tren a week.But in the end its up to you.

nisser
07-11-2009, 10:30 AM
Are you sure you don't have ED and EOD mixed up nisser??

175mg/week is low. I haven't seen anyone run that low.

7 EOD pokes in 2 weeks x 125mg =~900 divided by 2 = 450mg/ week

That's he wants to run

I ran 175mg/ week (50mg EOD) and if it wasn't for the prop literally turning me into an invalid it would have been more than enough.

sixguns
08-11-2009, 02:45 AM
i know guys that run 700mg/week no prob, hell i know a guy who has run 1400mg/week, granted these guys know what there doing, BUT no one will say its a good idea either, if its your first run w/tren start at 50-75mg eod, and bank on 12 weeks being a little long to deal with the sides if your cutting, restricted cals=moody, restricted cals+tren=douche bag

kloan
08-11-2009, 02:49 AM
7 EOD pokes in 2 weeks x 125mg =~900 divided by 2 = 450mg/ week

That's he wants to run

I ran 175mg/ week (50mg EOD) and if it wasn't for the prop literally turning me into an invalid it would have been more than enough.

yeah, i was talking about the 50mg eod suggestion. i've never seen anyone run 175mg/week before. must've been some good tren!

Solo59
09-11-2009, 12:33 AM
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Ok I am going to be running a bulker starting Nov 15 consisting of TestE 500mg/Week for 10 weeks, kickstart with M-1-T 10mg-20mg/ED for 4 weeks follwed by proper PCT, also got Dostinex on hand jsut incase prolactin gyno sets in with M-1-T. I have had my diet in check for the last month leading up to Nov 15 start date.

My question is how does this after bulk cutting stack look? 10 week rest! Then:

Test Prop 450mg/Week 1 - 12
Tren Ace 450mg/Week 1 - 12
Mast Prop 450mg/Week 1 - 12
**HCG will be incorporated in this cycle as well, followed by Proper PCT.

Strict diet mostly consisting of Chicken, fish, rice, yams/sweet potatoes, green veggies. 3 Isolate-protein shakes per day with 50-75g of protein. No cheat meals @ all. Planning on cardio 3-4 times per week, I am aware that Tren effects cardio but oh well. Also this will be my 7th cycle after my Nov 15 bulker which would be my 6th.
IF you can handle this (and all the poking), this is an excellent leaner-hardener. You will be vascular & solid. You squeeze in that cardio, you will be one lean, mean machine. Mast & Tren just feed off each other, but remember that traffic lights don't change just to piss you off.;) (Watch impatience & aggression.)

Solo

dremen
09-11-2009, 09:50 AM
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Ok I am going to be running a bulker starting Nov 15 consisting of TestE 500mg/Week for 10 weeks, kickstart with M-1-T 10mg-20mg/ED for 4 weeks follwed by proper PCT, also got Dostinex on hand jsut incase prolactin gyno sets in with M-1-T. I have had my diet in check for the last month leading up to Nov 15 start date.

My question is how does this after bulk cutting stack look? 10 week rest! Then:

Test Prop 450mg/Week 1 - 12
Tren Ace 450mg/Week 1 - 12
Mast Prop 450mg/Week 1 - 12
**HCG will be incorporated in this cycle as well, followed by Proper PCT.

Strict diet mostly consisting of Chicken, fish, rice, yams/sweet potatoes, green veggies. 3 Isolate-protein shakes per day with 50-75g of protein. No cheat meals @ all. Planning on cardio 3-4 times per week, I am aware that Tren effects cardio but oh well. Also this will be my 7th cycle after my Nov 15 bulker which would be my 6th.


Up the prop or lower the tren bro.....or is this a cut stack(all in one vial?)

I need my test to be at least 150mg/week higher then everything else or my pee pee goes wee wee.

Wee wee=bad:(

Solo59
09-11-2009, 05:01 PM
Up the prop or lower the tren bro.....or is this a cut stack(all in one vial?)

I need my test to be at least 150mg/week higher then everything else or my pee pee goes wee wee.

Wee wee=bad:(

Don't forget that masteron is the better, smarter cousin of proviron. It's also highly androgenic & will contribute to libido drive. Many of us find Tren rocks libido, too, as long as prolactin is kept under control.

OntariOMuscle101 is good to go with this cycle. You will feel edgy & driven but also potent & dangerous. You will grow hard, lean, & vascular to the max.

Solo

dremen
09-11-2009, 05:05 PM
Don't forget that masteron is the better, smarter cousin of proviron. It's also highly androgenic & will contribute to libido drive. Many of us find Tren rocks libido, too, as long as prolactin is kept under control.

OntariOMuscle101 is good to go with this cycle. You will feel edgy & driven but also potent & dangerous. You will grow hard, lean, & vascular to the max.

Solo

Well i guess if you say so..............:p

I still say test should be higher in mgs/week then anything else.

Solo59
09-11-2009, 08:35 PM
Well i guess if you say so..............:p

I still say test should be higher in mgs/week then anything else.

Often that's true. Always? It's a myth.

Solo

OntariOMuscle101
11-11-2009, 11:25 AM
Don't forget that masteron is the better, smarter cousin of proviron. It's also highly androgenic & will contribute to libido drive. Many of us find Tren rocks libido, too, as long as prolactin is kept under control.

OntariOMuscle101 is good to go with this cycle. You will feel edgy & driven but also potent & dangerous. You will grow hard, lean, & vascular to the max.

Solo

I am aware that masteron is the cousin of proviron, I will also be running Dostinex 500mcg 2x per week to help with prolactin issues. I like your statement, my diet will be strict but high in protien and I will force myself to do cardio, even if i cant run that much without getting winded I will get on the stairmaster. I am going to try to be 225 with 11%-12% BF by the time i start this cycle, by the end I will be very shredded, my gains will be kept due to the fact that Anavar is going to be used @ 80-100mg/ED for my last 6 weeks