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Ritch
02-11-2009, 11:14 PM
Not that there`s anything wrong with that, but it would be a running joke of sort with your friends if a gay guy beat you up...

I guess our very own MMA here will have to blaze that trail if there are none as of now... Ooohh yeah, feel the hate on that one bro!!!

marino
02-11-2009, 11:23 PM
Makes you rethink the term rear-naked choke

guest
02-11-2009, 11:29 PM
wasnt salavary rumored to be gay? diego sanchez too.

JacktheThriller
02-11-2009, 11:31 PM
yea i think a lil kiss on the cheek would end that black belt ground game in a big hurry

cheesesteak
02-11-2009, 11:33 PM
Frank Trig posed nude for a gay mag

champcar99
02-11-2009, 11:59 PM
Not that there`s anything wrong with that, but it would be a running joke of sort with your friends if a gay guy beat you up...

I guess our very own MMA here will have to blaze that trail if there are none as of now... Ooohh yeah, feel the hate on that one bro!!!

Ritch spending too much time doing **** all..to be thinking about shit like this....:ne

faller
03-11-2009, 12:23 AM
Or maybe it's wishful thinking on his part as watch's the fights. :moon

#8
03-11-2009, 12:38 AM
two greased up guys in tight shorts clinging to eachother on the ground for 5 rounds. how could that be gay?

sometimes i miss old fashion boxing. MMA has so much shitty ass boring ground clutching a lot of the time. clone tyson and get him to fight kimbo stand up game only.

gsxr750
03-11-2009, 12:40 AM
Doesn't Mr. O train MMA?

cheesesteak
03-11-2009, 12:42 AM
two greased up guys in tight shorts clinging to eachother on the ground for 5 rounds. how could that be gay?

sometimes i miss old fashion boxing. MMA has so much shitty ass boring ground clutching a lot of the time. clone tyson and get him to fight kimbo stand up game only.

Why clone Tyson? If he even bothered to train he would waste Kimbo now.

#8
03-11-2009, 12:44 AM
^^ i think Mr. O does a combination of Bowflex and Body by Jake machine workouts

cheesesteak
03-11-2009, 12:46 AM
Not the new Couture machine that attaches to the door and promises 400lbs of resistance?

#8
03-11-2009, 12:49 AM
I curl 400lb dumbbells.

marino
03-11-2009, 12:55 AM
I curl 400lb dumbbells.

wait til my total gym arrives I will be huge after just 6 weeks

cheesesteak
03-11-2009, 01:02 AM
Your wife will give you that little wink every once in awhile (i think that's how the commercial goes)

rob66679
03-11-2009, 02:51 AM
Not that there`s anything wrong with that, but it would be a running joke of sort with your friends if a gay guy beat you up...

I guess our very own MMA here will have to blaze that trail if there are none as of now... Ooohh yeah, feel the hate on that one bro!!!

Dunno about MMA, but Emille Griffith was a hell of a boxer in the 50's and
60's and he was gay.
Once a guy ( Benny Parret ) was taunting him about it before they fought, Griffith killed him in the ring......Literally. One of the most brutal fights I've ever seen.

MMASTAR
03-11-2009, 07:46 AM
No gay MMA fighters.. it doesnt appeal to queers... oh and ritch, im starting to feel a rif growing between us..lol.. just leave the fighting to us straight folk for now.. you stick to your own kind of wrestling..lol

ubcpower
03-11-2009, 09:08 AM
While all my buddies are screaming and drinking beers during Saturday PPer Views.... i often find myself sitting quietly in the back wondering which of the two fighters could possibly be gay.........

cheesesteak
03-11-2009, 09:10 AM
http://media.damnfunnypictures.com/photos/60xh20e-Gay-Jiu-Jitsu-picture103.jpg

Chunk
03-11-2009, 11:06 PM
http://media.damnfunnypictures.com/photos/60xh20e-Gay-Jiu-Jitsu-picture103.jpg

hahaha this was my facebook profile picture for about 6 months

the only thing that would make this pic OK is if shogun soccer kicked wandy in the chicklets RIGHT after the pic was taken haha

guest
04-11-2009, 01:30 AM
two greased up guys in tight shorts clinging to eachother on the ground for 5 rounds. how could that be gay?

sometimes i miss old fashion boxing. MMA has so much shitty ass boring ground clutching a lot of the time. clone tyson and get him to fight kimbo stand up game only.

haha. no where near as gay as BB tho eh? oiled up muscle men flexing in tiny shorts posing for a crowd of wooing, cheering men. "did you see his triceps?! oh my god they were huge!", "his quads really have improved definition over last year".

i guess straight up grapplers like wrestlers and jujitsu guys must be the gayest.

i know what you mean about boring ground stuff, i think there are a lot of fighters that should be in K1 or such to exhibit their striking so we dont have to watch them in the cage on their backs clinging to their opponent for dear life with no plan of attack other than to neutralize.

R-Money
18-11-2009, 08:03 AM
there is nothing wrong with oiling up and passionately trying to overpower another man.

natenator
18-11-2009, 10:16 AM
Not that there`s anything wrong with that, but it would be a running joke of sort with your friends if a gay guy beat you up...

I guess our very own MMA here will have to blaze that trail if there are none as of now... Ooohh yeah, feel the hate on that one bro!!!
Not sure why it would be a joke to get my ass kicked by a guy with extensive MMA experience.

That's like saying it Mike Tyson was gay and you got your ass handed to you then you are a joke amongst your friends. I think not...

natenator
18-11-2009, 10:17 AM
haha. no where near as gay as BB tho eh? oiled up muscle men flexing in tiny shorts posing for a crowd of wooing, cheering men. "did you see his triceps?! oh my god they were huge!", "his quads really have improved definition over last year".

i guess straight up grapplers like wrestlers and jujitsu guys must be the gayest.

i know what you mean about boring ground stuff, i think there are a lot of fighters that should be in K1 or such to exhibit their striking so we dont have to watch them in the cage on their backs clinging to their opponent for dear life with no plan of attack other than to neutralize.
*giggles*

Game. Set. Match Bana!

waderow
18-11-2009, 10:24 AM
^^^^ "*giggles*"? lol ya fag

natenator
18-11-2009, 10:28 AM
^^^^ "*giggles*"? lol ya fag
I get giddy when I see someone get owned. haha

warlock
18-11-2009, 10:30 AM
I got 2 Thai boxing fights under my belt.

Won by points (for being more aggressive than the other guy for sure) and another by KO.

I was invited to do MMA before it existed, I did fine but didn't like the floor game.

Am thinking about going to BJJ as some friends invited me and right now I just have no time to dedicate to that.

There have been a few gay boxers that did well including one that represented Canada in the Olympics, in Thailand they had a lady boy during the mid 90's that was amazing champion.

There are gay athletes in every single sport, playing at the highest level, but homophobia still rules and coming out can be the end of your career.

I could tell you about 2 or 3 guys that are sports idols but closeted due to the nature of their sport but outing people is not my thing.

waderow
18-11-2009, 10:32 AM
I think most people do the homophobe thing because it is funny. I know I do. lol
Most people in RL have no problems with gays unless they are cris crocker flaming.

tiramisu
18-11-2009, 12:10 PM
I wouldn''t be to worried out the homophobe thing but I'd definitely be asking for an aids test. Win or lose there's likely to be an exchange of fluids.

warlock
18-11-2009, 09:26 PM
I wouldn''t be to worried out the homophobe thing but I'd definitely be asking for an aids test. Win or lose there's likely to be an exchange of fluids.

Do you believe that a straight fighter is less likely to be HIV positive?

natenator
18-11-2009, 09:28 PM
Do you believe that a straight fighter is less likely to be HIV positive?
+1

Pretty retarded thinking to believe HIV/Aids is solely a gay problem.

tiramisu
18-11-2009, 10:06 PM
Last time I checked the odds of getting HIV as a straight male were pretty much 0.

While staight women may get it from being sodomized by a bi/junky man with aids the odds of a man contracting HIV from a straight woman are much lower (less abrasion).
When you multiply the odds of a women getting it from a homosexual or a junkie times the odds of a straight man catching it from her it gets pretty slim.

After that it requires a fag/junky with aids to soak you down with bodily fluids when you are all cut up yourself.

cog
18-11-2009, 10:09 PM
Last time I checked the odd of getting HIV as a straight male were pretty much 0.

Play the lottery much?

tiramisu
18-11-2009, 10:14 PM
All the time and I've even had sex with women before I got married.

Realistically aids IS a gay/junky issue in the first world. A friend of mine's wife cut herself while doing surgery on one and had to waited darn near a year to ensure that she wasn't infected but outside of being a healthcare worker or a MMA fighter it's just not a disease a straight male has much to be concerned about.

dremen
18-11-2009, 10:44 PM
Do you believe that a straight fighter is less likely to be HIV positive?

YES.

The numbers show gay men tend to not wear condoms as often and str8 men. I've worked with a lot of gay men and woman and the guys even told me how disgusted they were with most gay men because of this.

**** ever get a bj with a condom on....i did ONCE......ONCE...lol:rofl

dremen
18-11-2009, 10:46 PM
but outside of being a healthcare worker or a MMA fighter it's just not a disease a straight male has much to be concerned about.

EXCUSE ME, that's so ****ing wrong bro. Gawd did you just say that:confused:

cog
18-11-2009, 10:48 PM
YES.

The numbers show gay men tend to not wear condoms as often and str8 men. I've worked with a lot of gay men and woman and the guys even told me how disgusted they were with most gay men because of this.

**** ever get a bj with a condom on....i did ONCE......ONCE...lol:rofl

Once.Risky situation?.I heard on the CBC today that retired baby boomers in Florida were part of a new group that seems to think they are immune.Some strains are more virulent than others.

tiramisu
18-11-2009, 10:55 PM
http://www.whatisaids.com/wwwboard/messages/368.html

cog
18-11-2009, 10:57 PM
Wonder how people in Africa get it.

tiramisu
18-11-2009, 11:01 PM
From the same thread...
In parts of the third world, AIDS has, in fact, exploded among heterosexuals. But it has taken hold only in some regions, and among people whose immune systems are already crippled. For instance, the African epidemic is largely confined to the sub-Sahara, where malnutrition, poor health care, and such diseases as malaria and tuberculosis are rampant. In addition, because of their country's history of apartheid, many South Africans live and labor in squalid camps hundreds of miles from their homes. There, men with untreated STDs will often have sex with HIV infected prostitutes, contract the virus themselves, and bring it home to their wives, who, when they get pregnant, pass it along to their children. (Rural China, where similar conditions exist, is also suffering.) Oprah and Bono have lured TV crews to blighted African villages where the heterosexual epidemic is real. Viewers at home are left with the impression that AIDS - always the equal opportunity killer - could yet make its way into their own bed if theyıre not careful.

BAM
18-11-2009, 11:14 PM
I think what it boils down to is that gay men **** a lot more men than heterosexual men do.

:)

tiramisu
18-11-2009, 11:22 PM
More specifically Gay men **** a lot more men in the ass then heterosexual men do.
Odd but true.

RagingRandy
18-11-2009, 11:33 PM
Do you believe that a straight fighter is less likely to be HIV positive?

Yes and so does the CDC. The stats show that over 50% of new AIDS cases are from homosexual men. Yet, homosexual men only represent about 5% or less of the population.

So yes, you are more likely to get AIDS from a homosexual male. Please educate yourself. http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf

nisser
19-11-2009, 01:00 PM
Last time I checked the odds of getting HIV as a straight male were pretty much 0.

While staight women may get it from being sodomized by a bi/junky man with aids the odds of a man contracting HIV from a straight woman are much lower (less abrasion).
When you multiply the odds of a women getting it from a homosexual or a junkie times the odds of a straight man catching it from her it gets pretty slim.

After that it requires a fag/junky with aids to soak you down with bodily fluids when you are all cut up yourself.

You're crazy and pretty ignorant.

warlock
19-11-2009, 03:58 PM
The level of intelligence in this board is falling down.

There are basically two reasons why PEOPLE get HIV, an accident or they thinkit will not happen to them.

I see here the dissemination of the second case. That isn't just stupid but dangerous as well as disseminates idiotic preconceived ideas used by morons to rationalize their own risky habits and therefore end up disseminating the virus for lack of awareness of contamination.

There is only one way to deal with this subject: assume that every person that you **** is positive unless proven contrary!

When I was single I always used a condom and got HIV tests every 6 months just in case. No matter what.

Assume that everyone is positive and that you may be as well and that is the only way to stop the dissemination of this plague. Rationalization of stupidity will bring humanity down.

tiramisu
19-11-2009, 04:16 PM
The level of intelligence in this board is falling down.

There are basically two reasons why PEOPLE get HIV, an accident or they thinkit will not happen to them.

I see here the dissemination of the second case. That isn't just stupid but dangerous as well as disseminates idiotic preconceived ideas used by morons to rationalize their own risky habits and therefore end up disseminating the virus for lack of awareness of contamination.

There is only one way to deal with this subject: assume that every person that you **** is positive unless proven contrary!

When I was single I always used a condom and got HIV tests every 6 months just in case. No matter what.

Assume that everyone is positive and that you may be as well and that is the only way to stop the dissemination of this plague. Rationalization of stupidity will bring humanity down.

The facts as presented by the CDC are pretty clear. The risk of HIV in straight men who are not splashed with body fluids of the infected on open cuts while they have a disease that lowers their own immunity is ridiculously low.

The myth is that there is significant risk of HIV to heterosexual males. This is simply not true. Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis, Herpes, certainly. Aids no. Check your facts.

I am just about as likely to die of AAS as AIDS as a heterosexual non needle sharing north american male.

BenT
19-11-2009, 04:45 PM
The facts as presented by the CDC are pretty clear. The risk of HIV in straight men who are not splashed with body fluids of the infected on open cuts while they have a disease that lowers their own immunity is ridiculously low.

The myth is that there is significant risk of HIV to heterosexual males. This is simply not true. Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis, Herpes, certainly. Aids no. Check your facts.

I am just about as likely to die of AAS as AIDS as a heterosexual non needle sharing north american male.

There is some logic to your argument - a higher percentage of gay men have HIV than straight women, therefore if you are a gay man you are more likely to be exposed to HIV. Also, since gay men typically have more sex partners than straight men, the odds are confounded. So yes, gay men are more likely to be exposed to HIV. But, straight women are the fastest growing group of new HIV infections (rate of HIV infection in gay men is fairly consistent over time) - it's still a risk. Okay, maybe it's 1/100 instead of 1/10... are those odds you are willing to gamble with?

Also, you mentioned many other STDs. Are you aware that having other STDs dramatically increases you chances of contracting HIV through your penis? Especially syphilis and gonorrhea (and you can have both of these for a while without knowing it). In Toronto, almost 50% of new syphilis infections are HIV co-infections (and no syphilis is definitely not limited to homosexuals).

tiramisu
19-11-2009, 05:07 PM
The odds of getting AIDS as a straight male are less than the odds of being hit by lightening.
It is pretty much a prerequisite not a co-requisite that the victim be immune impaired (often by an STD) in order for AIDS to infect the host.

Again check the facts instead of spewing rhetoric.

http://www.aliveandwell.org/html/risk_realities/whatever_happened.html

nisser
19-11-2009, 06:46 PM
The odds are less if you're straight but if you think they're non-existant it's an incredibly dangerous thought.

The rate of syphillys is exploding in Calgary. Want to know in which group? Heteros. You wouldn't know that unless you visited the STD clinic and guess what, heteros generally don't.

All of those links you are posting are slightly confounded by the fact that straight people get tested significantly less than gay people. STD testing is so ingrained and encouraged among the gay community, that it's done by most people multiple times a year.

I can't remember when was the last time I saw a woman at the STD clinic and I've been going regularly for the last half a decade.

It takes sometimes a decade for HIV symptoms to appear and if you're a cocky dude in his 20s barebacking every whore you come across on weekend nights...good ****ing luck.

natenator
19-11-2009, 07:45 PM
It takes sometimes a decade for HIV symptoms to appear and if you're a cocky dude in his 20s barebacking every whore you come across on weekend nights...good ****ing luck.

Durk... lol

warlock
19-11-2009, 09:03 PM
The facts as presented by the CDC are pretty clear. The risk of HIV in straight men who are not splashed with body fluids of the infected on open cuts while they have a disease that lowers their own immunity is ridiculously low.

The myth is that there is significant risk of HIV to heterosexual males. This is simply not true. Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis, Herpes, certainly. Aids no. Check your facts.

I am just about as likely to die of AAS as AIDS as a heterosexual non needle sharing north american male.


Your line of though is dangerous as it promotes the spread of all STDS, teen pregnancy and all other crap involved in stupid sexual beaviours.


Use common sense!

cog
19-11-2009, 09:14 PM
Same chance as lightning?Go out and **** everything(female) in a big city.Don't forget about herpes compounding things either.You can't tell where people have been or what possible link they might have to somebody infected.Nor do they have to be a junkie to have drugs compromise good judgement.

tiramisu
19-11-2009, 09:15 PM
No not same chance as lightening. Less.
That's just a fact. If you don't like the facts complain to the CDC.

Durk
19-11-2009, 09:33 PM
Durk... lol

I take such precautions as to shower and pee right after thank you ver much.

Durk
19-11-2009, 09:34 PM
No not same chance as lightening. Less.
That's just a fact. If you don't like the facts complain to the CDC.

what if you also **** the girls in the ass. Asking for a friend ofcourse.

natenator
19-11-2009, 09:36 PM
I take such precautions as to shower and pee right after thank you ver much.
don';t forget purell

waderow
19-11-2009, 09:37 PM
the std clinic girl told me when i went there for a blood test to make sure the questionable women i had been with in my younger days didnt kill me, that HIV is rarely transmitted from women to man with vaginal intercourse.

anal, homo, IV drug users are the main culprits

Durk
19-11-2009, 09:37 PM
don';t forget purell

usually pure rubbing alcohol, but I will keep some handy

cog
19-11-2009, 09:42 PM
IIRC,there has been a case or two of women actively seeking to spread HIV.They have had some success.

waderow
19-11-2009, 09:49 PM
Wonder how people in Africa get it.

it is thought that the virus crossed over from animals to humans....

in many undeveloped nations, the habitants sometimes partake in beastiality

natenator
19-11-2009, 09:52 PM
it is thought that the virus crossed over from animals to humans....

in many undeveloped nations, the habitants sometimes partake in beastiality
not just undeveloped.... lol

RagingRandy
19-11-2009, 09:54 PM
Why is it that some are so afraid of facts? It was never suggested that you should not wear a condom during sex. Why all the rhetoric when simple facts are presented?

Using the logic that some are supporting by saying that acceptance of the fact that Aids infections in homosexual men is greater than heterosexual men will lead to the lack of condom use would lead me to conclude that you are speaking out of your ass by saying that because I wear a condom I can put my dick wherever I like. This too is a ridiculous argument as condoms are far from being 100% effective. If you want to guarantee never to get an STD.......marry an STD free person and only have sex with them. That is as close to a 100% guarantee you have. The rest is just degrees of risk. Choose your own risk level and leave others to choose theirs.

natenator
19-11-2009, 09:58 PM
Why is it that some are so afraid of facts? It was never suggested that you should not wear a condom during sex. Why all the rhetoric when simple facts are presented?

Using the logic that some are supporting by saying that acceptance of the fact that Aids infections in homosexual men is greater than heterosexual men will lead to the lack of condom use would lead me to conclude that you are speaking out of your ass by saying that because I wear a condom I can put my dick wherever I like. This too is a ridiculous argument as condoms are far from being 100% effective. If you want to guarantee never to get an STD.......marry an STD free person and only have sex with them. That is as close to a 100% guarantee you have. The rest is just degrees of risk. Choose your own risk level and leave others to choose theirs.
yeah cause married people never cheat...

waderow
19-11-2009, 10:00 PM
you can get herpes from toilet seat, or a bath towel

gsxr750
19-11-2009, 10:02 PM
Or a tanning bed.. guhh.. or the gym.. cuts on hands without wearing gloves sharing equipment..

natenator
19-11-2009, 10:06 PM
sharing equipment..

goes back to my comment about married people cheating lol

nisser
20-11-2009, 10:21 AM
it is thought that the virus crossed over from animals to humans....

in many undeveloped nations, the habitants sometimes partake in beastiality

He was commenting on the fact that there's a ton of heterosexual HIV-postivie men in Africa. If the risk of women-man is so low, then how are these people positive? I can't see them affording drugs and I definitely don't see them ****ing other men.

Ignorance is bliss...:)

waderow
20-11-2009, 10:24 AM
He was commenting on the fact that there's a ton of heterosexual HIV-postivie men in Africa. If the risk of women-man is so low, then how are these people positive? I can't see them affording drugs and I definitely don't see them ****ing other men.

Ignorance is bliss...:)

because they breed like rats, and even at low risk, after relentless amounts of times trying, becomes high....
Plus anal sex is likely a factor here

L3
20-11-2009, 10:41 AM
you guys should look up "Bug Chasers"

waderow
20-11-2009, 10:54 AM
you guys should look up "Bug Chasers"

so there are gay men who want to catch Aids?

RagingRandy
20-11-2009, 12:47 PM
Here is an interesting read. It questions the methodologies used in diagnosing AIDS in Africa.

TB itself is acknowledged to be the greatest killer in South Africa, particularly among younger adults. This is verified by the 2005 official South African statistics based on death certificate reports. They tell us that TB kills 4 times more people than AIDS, in South Africa and that ‘flu, pneumonia, heart diseases and diabetes all kill more than AIDS. (AIDS is today credited with 2.7% of deaths in South Africa,)

Finally and more optimistically, it should be noted that, that, despite the widespread malnutrition, poverty and disease, the African population is far from shrinking. The US Bureau of the Census, in its International Database 2001, reports that between 1980 and 2000, during reportedly the worse years of the African AIDS epidemic, the population of Sub-Saharan Africa went up from 378 million to 652 million.

http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/africans

nisser
20-11-2009, 12:48 PM
because they breed like rats, and even at low risk, after relentless amounts of times trying, becomes high....
Plus anal sex is likely a factor here

I'm commenting on the idea that the risk is as low as getting hit by lightening. If you want to believe that, then by all means go ahead; but it clearly isn't.

RagingRandy
20-11-2009, 01:35 PM
I'm commenting on the idea that the risk is as low as getting hit by lightening. If you want to believe that, then by all means go ahead; but it clearly isn't.

Where are your stats to back up this statement?

Here is a couple. The heterosexual contact numbers reported by the CDC are for High-risk heterosexuals. By their definition this is .... "Heterosexual contact with a person known to have, or to be at high risk for, HIV infection."

The category I suspect most here would fall into is the Low-risk group. The problem is that the CDC does not report on this directly but includes it in the heading of "Other". The definition for Other is..... "Includes hemophilia, blood transfusion, perinatal exposure, and risk factor not reported or not identified."

By definition low-risk heterosexual fall into the "not reported or not identified" category. This "Other group is only responsible for 1% of all new cases in the USA. According to this http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/resources/reports/2005report/table1.htm that is a grand total of 139 cases for 2005. Factor in that low-risk heterosexual males are only a fraction of that number, you will see how unlikely they are to get AIDS.
The male population in the USA is about 150 million.

I can not do the precise math because the numbers are not precise but it is safe to say the likelihood is nominal at best.


Several sites I found pegged the probability of being stuck by lightning in the USA to between 1 in 250,00 to 1 in 400,000.

nisser
20-11-2009, 03:28 PM
Where are your stats to back up this statement?



The massive numbers of heterosexual men in Africa? How are they getting it? Porking dudes on the side? Spending their money they don't have on needles and drugs? Cutting the women up and then rubbing it against their wounds?

yeah uhm I'll go with vaginal intercourse.

RagingRandy
20-11-2009, 03:34 PM
^^^^^^ Read this....
http://www.fearoftheinvisible.com/africans

P.S. You still have not provided verifiable stats. Proof does not come in the form of a question.

tiramisu
20-11-2009, 04:14 PM
There are posters who are indifferent to statistics or facts. I believe the word that defines this is stupid, rather than ignorant. Statistically the average IQ is 100. It should not be terribly surprising that at least half of people are pretty ****ing stupid.

As IQ is a normalized curve and 65% of people fall within one standard deviation of the mean and a further 17.5% of people fall below that we have to accept the fact that 82.5% of people are stupider than a ****ing hammer handle.

natenator
20-11-2009, 05:23 PM
There are posters who are indifferent to statistics or facts. I believe the word that defines this is stupid, rather than ignorant. Statistically the average IQ is 100. It should not be terribly surprising that at least half of people are pretty ****ing stupid.

As IQ is a normalized curve and 65% of people fall within one standard deviation of the mean and a further 17.5% of people fall below that we have to accept the fact that 82.5% of people are stupider than a ****ing hammer handle.
Stats and studies are often misleading when applied without context.

For example: In Ontario in 2007 61 sexual assaults were reported to police per 100,000 in population.

Looking at that number and creating a percentage from it many would suggest there is not a problem of sexual assault in Ontario. Yet, on a nation wide scale (sorry - can't find Ontario specific numbers) it is reported that less than 8% of sexual assaults are reported. I'll go out on a limb and suggest that figure is probably similar for Ontario.

So, facts without supporting data and context is misleading.

waderow
20-11-2009, 05:39 PM
stats are very misleading.

Using Nates figures, that gentle figure of 61 per 100000 actually means 250 sexual assaults every day in ON. Whether this is correct or not I dont know, but one def. sounds better than the other.....

warlock
20-11-2009, 05:49 PM
The odds are less if you're straight but if you think they're non-existant it's an incredibly dangerous thought.

The rate of syphillys is exploding in Calgary. Want to know in which group? Heteros. You wouldn't know that unless you visited the STD clinic and guess what, heteros generally don't.

All of those links you are posting are slightly confounded by the fact that straight people get tested significantly less than gay people. STD testing is so ingrained and encouraged among the gay community, that it's done by most people multiple times a year.

I can't remember when was the last time I saw a woman at the STD clinic and I've been going regularly for the last half a decade.

It takes sometimes a decade for HIV symptoms to appear and if you're a cocky dude in his 20s barebacking every whore you come across on weekend nights...good ****ing luck.

That just sums everything.

If anyone things that he is safe, that person should know that the only safe sex is no sex at all. Even if you are in a committed monogamous relationship there are other ways to get illness into your system that doesn't involve cheating.

cog
20-11-2009, 09:11 PM
Stats,stats,stats.Garbage in garbage out.I didn't even bother to read the south african stats,they have been widely acknowledged to be complete bs,they don't want to admit the severity of the problem.Your immune system becomes comprimised,you catch a serious disease and die.Official cause of death is false.Heterosexual sex is predominant,this is the main route of transmission,Africa is a number of years ahead of North America,being lax could cause the problem here to get out of hand.

natenator
22-11-2009, 01:13 AM
Stats and studies are often misleading when applied without context.

For example: In Ontario in 2007 61 sexual assaults were reported to police per 100,000 in population.

Looking at that number and creating a percentage from it many would suggest there is not a problem of sexual assault in Ontario. Yet, on a nation wide scale (sorry - can't find Ontario specific numbers) it is reported that less than 8% of sexual assaults are reported. I'll go out on a limb and suggest that figure is probably similar for Ontario.

So, facts without supporting data and context is misleading.
bump for tiramisu since he seems hell bent on calling anyone who doesn't wholly believe into statistics are dumb.

RagingRandy
22-11-2009, 01:22 AM
Yet, on a nation wide scale (sorry - can't find Ontario specific numbers) it is reported that less than 8% of sexual assaults are reported.

Just curious on how they know only 8% of assaults are reported. How do they determine this if they are not getting reported? Any real verifiable study will suffice.

natenator
22-11-2009, 01:27 AM
Just curious on how they know only 8% of assaults are reported. How do they determine this if they are not getting reported? Any real verifiable study will suffice.
uhh stats are stats remember? If you can post CDC stats are verifiable proof then the above 8% ought to be good enough for you.

However: this one says 6% but I read a more recent one that indicated 8% but I can't find it right now.

http://www.elitecanada.com/pdfs/cnd_rape_stats.pdf

RagingRandy
22-11-2009, 01:37 AM
Thanks, as stated in the posted link the # came from the "The Violence Against Women Survey," As I posted, I was curious how the determination could be made.

You seem to have an issue with the CDC's findings. Is there a reason you question them? Do you believe there are factors that skew the results?

Durk
22-11-2009, 03:34 AM
Nate contracted his HIV from straight vaginal sex. He is here to prove the statistics wrong. Personally I think he caught it from going down on that crack whore during her rag.

natenator
22-11-2009, 10:56 AM
Thanks, as stated in the posted link the # came from the "The Violence Against Women Survey," As I posted, I was curious how the determination could be made.

You seem to have an issue with the CDC's findings. Is there a reason you question them? Do you believe there are factors that skew the results?
Where have I made comment with the CDC's findings? Not once have I disputed or tried to argue their facts.

What I said was in response to tiramisu's rant on people being stupid for blindly ignoring stats or however he phrased it.

Stats without context are misleading. That is my contention.

natenator
22-11-2009, 10:56 AM
Nate contracted his HIV from straight vaginal sex. He is here to prove the statistics wrong. Personally I think he caught it from going down on that crack whore during her rag.
Please tell your mom thanks for ruining my life!

guest
22-11-2009, 11:45 AM
the holocaust was a hoax and the H1N1 was perpetrated by Jews.

natenator
22-11-2009, 11:48 AM
the holocaust was a hoax and the H1N1 was perpetrated by Jews.
cue bam... lol

tiramisu
22-11-2009, 02:50 PM
I'm backing banacek on all further discussion on this topic.

RagingRandy
22-11-2009, 04:46 PM
Where have I made comment with the CDC's findings? Not once have I disputed or tried to argue their facts.

What I said was in response to tiramisu's rant on people being stupid for blindly ignoring stats or however he phrased it.

Stats without context are misleading. That is my contention.

Your comment about context led me to believe that the CDC stats were not straightforward and simply stated. If I was in error I apologize.

tiramisu
22-11-2009, 06:43 PM
All I said was 87.5% of people are stupid.

natenator
22-11-2009, 06:46 PM
All I said was 87.5% of people are stupid.
"There are posters who are indifferent to statistics or facts. I believe the word that defines this is stupid, rather than ignorant."

sound familiar?

I would say those who believe, blindly, in statistics or facts to be neither stupid or ignorant but rather a complete dumbass.

tiramisu
22-11-2009, 08:06 PM
"There are posters who are indifferent to statistics or facts. I believe the word that defines this is stupid, rather than ignorant."

sound familiar?

I would say those who believe, blindly, in statistics or facts to be neither stupid or ignorant but rather a complete dumbass.

I completely agree, 92.3% of posters prefer to believe in shit they just pull out of their butts. This is obviously true because I wrote it.