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chan_ho_nam
31-10-2009, 01:05 PM
Hey guys,

Been on 500 test for about 6 weeks now, I'm about the add some tren enan in there to give myself a boost. I don't know whether I should start at 250week and see how i react, or just go 500.

Also, I'm a bit sensitive to estrogen, should I be running some letro with the tren throughout the cycle or is that not really nessessary?

GYMBRAT
31-10-2009, 01:32 PM
I wouldnt run tren e for a first imo, tren a would be much wiser do to the fact that you can gauge the dosage and quit it if felt needed....and I would get my hands on some bromo or caber for the tren as well

gicantor
31-10-2009, 01:37 PM
Bro, you need to do more research. You should not be using tren. How many cycles have you done?

First of all tren is extremely powerful. Do NOT run it at 500mg.

Second tren does not aromatize. It's not the estrogen you need to worry about. You might get prolactin sides, in which you need Dostenix to combat it.

IMO tren is ****ing strong and less is more with that drug. Use as little as possible to get the result you want. Not alot is need.

EDIT: I agree with GYMBRAT use tren ace first time around incase you need to bail out.

tums1000
31-10-2009, 02:59 PM
imo even 200 mg of tren a week is a very good amount,if you do go ahead and run the tren start out at about 200-250 becuase the sides can be pretty bad with tren.
what i would suggest tho is finish off this cycle with what you are running get a real good pct ,then use the tren on your next cycle from the start .

bongd
31-10-2009, 03:05 PM
Hey man, glad you made it over here! I didn't know you were on this site!!

In any event, don't run more than 400mg of tren e. Honestly, you should opt for tren ace. Nothing's more uncomfortable than being on tren and waking up in a pool of sweat and having crazy insomnia. If you get headaches or high BP, tren ace just needs to be backed off for a few days and you're completely good to go again.

You feel more bang for your buck, ml for ml with tren ace too. You have much more control with shorter esters. You'll have to pin a little more, but the positive aggression, muscle gains and recomping properties of tren are amazing. If you respond like most, you'll be so enthused that pinning a couple extra times a week will mean **** all.

Use tren ace, have fun in the gym, eat good and make the best of it. If you're like most you'll probably end up loving tren as much as test!

theboss
31-10-2009, 03:41 PM
i love tren....ran 600mg/week my last go.....awesomeness.

but not for beginners.

chan_ho_nam
31-10-2009, 06:10 PM
To the first few responders, sorry if I gave you the wrong impression but this isn't my first cycle, its actually far from it.

I usually run test with EQ, but decided to try tren this time. I'll take the suggestion and use only 250 to start.

Supp BongD, yeah I'm actually all over, I just rarely use my accounts.

GYMBRAT
31-10-2009, 06:16 PM
still as I said I would get some bromo or caber to be on the safe side

Solo59
31-10-2009, 06:26 PM
If you're experienced and you've still got at least 8 weeks left in your cycle and if you've got Tren enanthate on hand, I'd say go for it. But I agree that you might do well to begin with as little as 200 mg EW for the first three weeks just so you know how you respond to this genie-in-a-bottle. If you find the genie works for you instead of against you, then you can finish your last five weeks going up to 300 mg EW. Now you can begin planning in advance for your first full cycle Test & Tren Train for next time!

Solo

chan_ho_nam
31-10-2009, 06:31 PM
Thanks for the suggestions guys. Yeah I'll get some cabaser before I start.

GYMBRAT
31-10-2009, 06:35 PM
sounds good bro have fun and grow eh! haha

chan_ho_nam
09-11-2009, 11:10 PM
Ok guys, just got my cabaser and i'm ready to go. Because of its long half life, I should be using it 2x/week is that about right? Should I start at .5mg or 1mg a week?

kloan
09-11-2009, 11:15 PM
I'm using mine twice a week. Who knows what it's doing... I guess it's working? Also taking aromasin along with it.. I know people are gonna say it's supposed to be run more frequently, but I don't care.. this is how I'm using it. Then soon I'll drop the aromasin and see if the puffiness comes back. If not, I'll only continue with the caber.

As of right now, I've got virtually no libido.

waderow
09-11-2009, 11:18 PM
Ok guys, just got my cabaser and i'm ready to go. Because of its long half life, I should be using it 2x/week is that about right? Should I start at .5mg or 1mg a week?

what size tabs or caps

chan_ho_nam
10-11-2009, 09:23 AM
I'm using mine twice a week. Who knows what it's doing... I guess it's working? Also taking aromasin along with it.. I know people are gonna say it's supposed to be run more frequently, but I don't care.. this is how I'm using it. Then soon I'll drop the aromasin and see if the puffiness comes back. If not, I'll only continue with the caber.

As of right now, I've got virtually no libido.

Hmm...that must be the aromasin, i though cabaser was supposed to increase the libido?

chan_ho_nam
10-11-2009, 09:24 AM
what size tabs or caps

.5mg

nitrous
10-11-2009, 12:36 PM
I'm using mine twice a week. Who knows what it's doing... I guess it's working? Also taking aromasin along with it.. I know people are gonna say it's supposed to be run more frequently, but I don't care.. this is how I'm using it. Then soon I'll drop the aromasin and see if the puffiness comes back. If not, I'll only continue with the caber.

As of right now, I've got virtually no libido.

i dont think running aromasin not that often isnt bad.. adex i would have said yes but with aromasin i can see getting away with it.. how much aromasin are you running though? also how much test are you using?

Solo59
10-11-2009, 03:02 PM
Hmm...that must be the aromasin, i though cabaser was supposed to increase the libido?

Cabergoline (Dostinex) does not increase the libido in itself, but it does lessen prolactin levels, which means two things:

1. If you've had high prolactin levels, your libido was likely diminished, so using caber feels like a libido boost.

2. Post-orgasm, the recovery time is extended because the body releases relaxing prolactin. Using caber blocks the prolactin, so you are ready to go at it again a lot sooner. (And if you have test-enhanced libido, you'll want to.)

Solo

kloan
10-11-2009, 07:49 PM
i dont think running aromasin not that often isnt bad.. adex i would have said yes but with aromasin i can see getting away with it.. how much aromasin are you running though? also how much test are you using?

yeah adex i tried running e3d last cycle and it put me through a loop... but aromasin seems to be fine 2x week.. so far anyway. it's 25mg.. tabs, but there's no way i can break em up without them crumbling. 400mg/wk test e... another 3 weeks its gonna be 650mg/wk.