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juced_porkchop
27-10-2009, 04:21 AM
Hello,
I have gatherd some info for the GHRP-2 and GHRP-6 product called GHenerate:

some info:
The growth hormone release which is the GHRP pathway or the Growth Hormone Secretagogue receptor. Ghrelin and GHRP-6/GHRP-2 stimulate this. This pathway is very potent at releasing GH and is a good route, yet there are more potent routes of growth hormone release which is why you needed a two- phase technology to get the job done.

Unfortunately, GHRP-2 and GHRP-6 are illegal to sell in the US, since they are drugs and 100% synthetic but we have found a way!
NATURAL versions of GHRP to use: a peptide in the fruit of Marus Alba that mimic's the effect of GHRP and it's natural analog Ghrelin (2).
a supplement that had the same effect as GHRP-2 without being illegal! Understand, that this peptide is not Ghrelin, but does exactly what synthetic peptides like GHRP-6 and GHRP-2 do, stimulate the GHSR receptor.

GHRH is the other receptor that allows for LARGE increases in growth hormone (up to 12 times baseline). By stimulating this receptor you cause massive spikes in circulating GH included in GHenerate ? to boost growth hormone levels even higher? YES!!
How?
Well:
Puerariae Radix, a plant thatPuerarin is an amazing nutrient that shows a 520% increase in growth hormone release (1) by stimulating the GHRH receptor.
An amazing find but the key is the liquid "under the tongue" bioavailability which makes it biologically active. 520% increase in circulating GH is a HUGE increase and shows that this second pathway is very potent at releasing GH.
We use 98% pure puerarin complexed with cyclodextrin in our formula so it is ultra potent.
Puerarin has also been shown to be an anti-aromatase, and a natural SERM,
but this is not the main effect, compared to the GHRH stimulation, just a side benefit.
Finally, this wonder ingredient is a natural phosphoinositol 3 kinase (PI3K) stimulator which is the same anabolic pathway stimulated by IGF-1 and insulin to load the muscle with glycogen.
GHRH stimulation, Aromatase Inhibition, natural SERM activity AND PI3K activity= Jackpot!

"While these studies are not conclusive, we just couldn't wait for years of clinical data on these ingredients to bring the product to market. We are looking into doing studies on all aspects of GH release with this product. We felt compelled to offer this product to people who like the science and wish to be early adopters to this new experience and see the value in the preliminary data and anecdotal experiences."




Now some mumbo jumbo MED talk about the product if you wish to read:

Reference Studies:
1) Horm Metab Res. 2004 Feb;36(2):86-91. Induction of growth hormone release by Pueraria thunbergiana BENTH. Jung DY, Ha H, Kim C. Drug Research and Development Team, Korea Institute of Oriental Medicine, 129-11 Chungdam-dong, Kangnam-ku, Seoul 135-100, Korea.

Puerariae Radix (PR), Puerariae Flos (PF), and Puerariae Surculus (PS) as well as their constituents were tested for induction of rat growth hormone (rGH) release by both rat pituitary cell culture and in vivo experimentation in order to develop them to novel drugs. Through a calibration curve of the rGH released by addition of rat growth hormone-releasing hormone (rGHRH) to rat pituitary cells, the 70 % ethanol extracts of PR and PS increased rGH release by about 1.6 and 1.7 times as high, respectively, as the control group (264.6 +/- 13.6 pM). However, each puerarin type as a representative constituent of PR in Korea Pharmacopeia (KP) and tectorigenin and an important ingredient of PF were twice as effective as in the control group. The acid hydrolysate of Puerariae Surculus (HPS) increased rGH release concentration-dependently, and its EC (50) was approximately 10.4 microg/ml. The T (max) value for rGH after injection of 20 microg/kg of rGHRH was 10 - 30 min, while the C (max) value was increased by approximately 12-fold compared to the control group (198.2 +/- 25.0 pM) and the AUC (0 - 45) was increased to 10 times the level of the control group (10,840.9 +/- 845.5 min. pM). On the other hand, T (max) for the HPS was 60 min, while C (max) was increased approximately to 5.8 fold compared to control (244.1 +/- 36.4 pM). C (max) for puerarin was 1,028.6 +/- 502.7 pM, that is, approximately 5.2 times as high as the control level. However, tectorigenin (20 microg/kg) was of no statistical significance. Therefore, we suggest that the HPS and puerarin act either on GH secretagogue receptors or on GHRH receptor of somatotrophin as possible agonists or an inhibitor on somatostatin receptor to release rGH, respectively.

2) Peptides. 2006 Jul;27(7):1597-602. Epub 2006 Feb 17. Ghrelin in plants: what is the function of an appetite hormone in plants? Aydin S Department of Biochemistry and Clinical Biochemistry, School of Medicine, Firat University, Firat Medical Center, 23119 Elazig, Turkey.

In the present work, we provide compelling evidence for the expression of a ghrelin-like peptide hormone that has only been associated with animals, in various plant tissues. Ghrelin, the appetite stimulating hormone, has been identified from a number of different species including humans, rat, pig, mouse, gerbil, eel, goldfish, bullfrog and chicken. The study here was conducted using an immunohistochemistry assay to screen whether plants have any ghrelin immunoreactivity. In this respect, Prunus x domestica L. and Marus alba were examined. Immunohistochemistry results showed that there is a strong human ghrelin immunoreactivity substance in the parenchyma cells of these plants. This was entirely unexpected since this hormone was considered to be present solely in animals. Thus, this study is the first to report the presence of a peptide with ghrelin-like activity in plants, a finding that has only been observed in the animal kingdom. RIA analysis confirmed that these plants contain significant amounts of this substance. Furthermore, reverse-phase HPLC analyses of plant extracts showed an elution characteristic of the peptide identical to that of human ghrelin. In general, fruit from both plants had higher levels of the peptide than the vegetative parts.

3) Food Chem Toxicol. 2008 Dec;46(12):3671-6. Epub 2008 Sep 23. Decreased expression of aromatase in the Ishikawa and RL95-2 cells by the isoflavone, puerarin, is associated with inhibition of c-jun expression and AP-1 activity. Li Y, Chen H, Yang S, Xie G. Cancer Hospital of Tianjin, Tianjin Medical University, Ti-Yuan-Bei, Tianjin 330060, China. liyanwei127@hotmail.com

4) Toxicol Appl Pharmacol. 2008 Dec 15;233(3):371-81. Epub 2008 Sep 19. Mechanism of phytoestrogen puerarin-mediated cytoprotection following oxidative injury: estrogen receptor-dependent up-regulation of PI3K/Akt and HO-1. Hwang YP, Jeong HG.

MMASTAR
27-10-2009, 09:18 AM
anyone gonna try this out? do you have the supplement facts on this stuff? its not on the website..

CMS Pimp
27-10-2009, 09:34 AM
They are not illegal. They are not drugs. (Yet at least)

Interesting product..

juced_porkchop
27-10-2009, 01:41 PM
anyone gonna try this out? do you have the supplement facts on this stuff? its not on the website..

lgsciences.com/product-p/ghenerate.htm] ----is link to product


I am going to see if i can get to send a few out to be tryd, Richyrich has already asked so he would be first,
Im going ot see if we can send some out to be logged about.

juced_porkchop
27-10-2009, 01:46 PM
They are not illegal. They are not drugs. (Yet at least)

Interesting product..

Yes they are.
they are illegal to sell for HUMAN consumption.

Now if your talking about "research" products thats a diff ball game, and with that saftey would worry me.

But yes it is interesting.
I may try this out also and log about it.
Its only being launched now, give it a few weeks and ill have more on this and mybe i can get some of you to try it out for free (well you would have to log about it but thats basicly free anyway)

CMS Pimp
27-10-2009, 02:18 PM
Yes they are.
they are illegal to sell for HUMAN consumption.

Now if your talking about "research" products thats a diff ball game, and with that saftey would worry me.

But yes it is interesting.
I may try this out also and log about it.
Its only being launched now, give it a few weeks and ill have more on this and mybe i can get some of you to try it out for free (well you would have to log about it but thats basicly free anyway)

Nutrabolics has a product called Hemotropin. It HAS GHRP2.

NUTRABOLICS FORMULA: HEMOTROPIN™:

HEMOTROPIN STRATEGY: Bioactive Multi-Pathway Growth Hormone Releasing Formula

The recent publicity surrounding the use of pharmaceutical growth hormone (GH) has caused quite a stir. For elite athletes who’ve known about the profound performance and anti-aging benefits of GH this media coverage is not surprising. That’s because for year’s sports scientists have reported profound positive changes in lean mass, reduction in bodyfat plus joint healing and recovery in subjects that use pharmaceutical GH. Unfortunately, none of the limited number of approved uses for GH are deemed appropriate for healthy athletes––making usage almost always “off label” and, in many instances, illegal. After extensive research, the Research & Development Team at Nutrabolics combined powerful GH–releasing compounds with key co-factors to create HemoTropin, which increases an athlete’s natural production of GH without the risk.

HEMOTROPIN TACTICS: Increase GH Release In a Natural & Progressive Pulse-Wave Manner

GH is a peptide hormone–– a group of 191 amino acids linked in a specific sequence and released by the anterior pituitary gland in pulses. Its anabolic/anti-catabolic effects include increased protein utilization and reduced protein breakdown. GH can even promote fat loss through lipolysis (fat breakdown) and by shifting energy production toward fat utilization. A quantum leap in designer supplementation, HemoTropin¬ takes the effects of training and nutritional programs to unforeseen heights, delivering unprecedented increases in the release of GH–– naturally, and with wave-like precision.

HEMOTROPIN INTEGRALS: GH-Releasing Secretagogues, and Amino Acid Precursors for Maximum Multi-Pathway GH Release

GH-Releasing Complex––HemoTropin increases GH output by combining four powerful and diverse compounds;

1) GHRP-2 [D-Ala-D-B-Nal-Ala-Trp-D-Phe-Lys-OCH3]: is a well-researched sequence of pharmacologically active peptides that reportedly increase natural GH levels by increasing GH-releasing factor (GRF), increased intracellular cyclic AMP (cAMP) concentrations that, in turn, improves GH release in a dose-dependent manner.
2) Arginine Pyroglutamate: is formed by combining the amino acids L-Arginine and Pyroglutamate. L-Arginine is required for the synthesis and release of GH, due to the amino acid’s role in normal functioning of the pituitary gland . Scientific studies support L-Arginine’s use as a GH-releasing agent, while also demonstrating effectiveness in males, young and old.

3) (2S)-2-aminopentanedioic acid: has recently shown great promise in triggering GH release above normal levels. Research suggests (2S)-2-aminopentanedioic acid works in concert with other amino acids, such as L-Arginine, to increase GH output in the pituitary.

4) Alpha GPC (L-alpha glycerylphosphorylcholine): is a water-soluble phospholipid and neurotransmitter precursor. It is a delivery form of choline, which is metabolized to acetylcholine. Research suggests that Alpha GPC promotes secretion of GH via its direct effect on the cholinergic system. In animals, the effect of cholinergic modulation on GH secretion takes place through inhibition or stimulation of hypothalamic somatostatin (SRIF) release .


After my peptide run, I would definetly be interested to try it. I know Eric from LG Sciences. Good guy and good company.

Ritch
27-10-2009, 04:40 PM
http://www.lgsciences.com/product-p/ghenerate.htm ----is link to product


I am going to see if i can get to send a few out to be tryd, Richyrich has already asked so he would be first,
Im going ot see if we can send some out to be logged about.

That would be sweet! I`ve never believed in these gh releasers but this one has my curiosity. I think I`d be a really good non biased tester. I`m regular with my gym, sleep and nutrition.

But guys, this stuff is not easy for Canadian consumers to get ahold of. On the site linked on this page Canada is not an option for country`s shipped to. Outlook express does not work on my computer and it`s the only way to get in contact with the company on the webpage. There was a phone number another rep listed on another website, but it`s not a toll free number. There is a special going on with this supp and wouldn`t mind buying a couple of bottles even if I get one for free to do a log.

Any suggestions?

MMASTAR
27-10-2009, 08:15 PM
http://www.lgsciences.com/product-p/ghenerate.htm ----is link to product


I am going to see if i can get to send a few out to be tryd, Richyrich has already asked so he would be first,
Im going ot see if we can send some out to be logged about.

no list of ingridients....

juced_porkchop
27-10-2009, 09:33 PM
That would be sweet! I`ve never believed in these gh releasers but this one has my curiosity. I think I`d be a really good non biased tester. I`m regular with my gym, sleep and nutrition.

But guys, this stuff is not easy for Canadian consumers to get ahold of. On the site linked on this page Canada is not an option for country`s shipped to. Outlook express does not work on my computer and it`s the only way to get in contact with the company on the webpage. There was a phone number another rep listed on another website, but it`s not a toll free number. There is a special going on with this supp and wouldn`t mind buying a couple of bottles even if I get one for free to do a log.

Any suggestions?


HOLY CRAP! there MUST be a glich on site after updating it!!
I HAVE SENT THEM AN EMAIL FOR HELP ASAP!!!
I will let you know as soon as I find out!
thats nutz because I have ordered there products and used them and LOVED THEM.(lipo protein, E-911, BC+EE/Bcaa's, and T-911"not used yet")
So there MUST be a mistake.
Im on it .
Im in canada so I feel your pain man!!

WILL UPDATE ASAP.
sorry guys.

juced_porkchop
27-10-2009, 09:34 PM
no list of ingridients....

Im on that to I have to look for the file srry Im a mess this week with work ect.
will have it listed this week.

juced_porkchop
27-10-2009, 09:36 PM
"HEMOTROPIN TACTICS: Increase GH Release In a Natural & Progressive Pulse-Wave Manner"

probibly kinda like this product, it says natty a few times, its not a peptide.
but again I dont know that product I may be wrong.

Ritch
27-10-2009, 10:28 PM
anyone gonna try this out? do you have the supplement facts on this stuff? its not on the website..

Hope it`s o.k. to post this as I`m not the LG rep, but here`s what I found:

Puerariae Radix is a plant that has one particular constituent that is set to be the next superstar. It is called puerarin! Puerarin is an amazing nutrient that shows a 520% increase in growth hormone release (1) by stimulating the GHRH receptor. This ingredient was an amazing find but the key is the liquid "under the tongue" bioavailability which makes it biologically active. 520% increase in circulating GH is a HUGE increase and shows that this second pathway is very potent at releasing GH. We use only 98% pure puerarin complexed with cyclodextrin in our formula so it is ultra potent. Puerarin has also been shown to be an anti-aromatase, and a natural SERM, but this is not the main effect, compared to the GHRH stimulation, just a side benefit (3, 4). Finally, this wonder ingredient is a natural phosphoinositol 3 kinase (PI3K) stimulator which is the same anabolic pathway stimulated by IGF-1 and insulin to load the muscle with glycogen. I have to say, even I am impressed by this amazing material. GHRH stimulation, Aromatase Inhibition, natural SERM activity AND PI3K activity! Jackpot!

These two ultra potent pathways are what give GHenerate the amazing body recomp, appetite increasing effects that were experienced by our testers and make it the most potent GH secreting agent ever produced. One tester gained 8lbs on GHenerate alone, which is unheard of for a GH product. There is nothing on the market like GHenerate!

juced_porkchop
27-10-2009, 11:14 PM
Awww man I just got some BAD news!
Due to CANADIAN CUSTOMES!!!! LG will not be shipping to canada right now.

They are working on it thow.
But donot have a given time line for me.
>:-(
F-ing CADcustoms!!

Ill still up date on this when I have somthing to update on.
for now I guess ill be posting the products that are new and posting for those that can get it.

Im sorry guys! :'-(
I hope this can change soon.

Ritch
27-10-2009, 11:18 PM
I had a feeling that was going to be said...^^^ I guess one will have to order the stuff from online warehouses and hope the stuff passes through. But how can it already be on the banned list? It just came out...

juced_porkchop
27-10-2009, 11:59 PM
I think canadapost kind of "black listed"LG because there are only SOME of the products that are banned not all.
yet they where loosing alot of packages to customes.
like T-911 for exmple because it has yohimiben in it.
I think they working of somthing maybe a cad site?? i unno if if i find anything els out ill let you guys know.
I know this sux big time.

if you know some one in the usa, maybe the can re-ship it?
anyway Im not happy ether but I hope somthing gets worked out soon.

physique
28-10-2009, 12:30 AM
keep ya guys posted. i have zero issues bringing stuff across these days. once my US supplier has this product i will get some and sell it for my cost, so people can try it

CMS Pimp
28-10-2009, 12:31 AM
Just order it through a US website. Easy and they usually resend when it's lost. I won't mention where to get them for obvious reasons..

CMS Pimp
28-10-2009, 12:31 AM
keep ya guys posted. i have zero issues bringing stuff across these days. once my US supplier has this product i will get some and sell it for my cost, so people can try it

You are such a good guy. :greet

juced_porkchop
28-10-2009, 02:30 PM
no list of ingridients....

here you go:
Hydroxy Propyl Beta Cyclodextrin Puerarin 98%GHRP - Manus Alba Extract

Other IngredientsCitric Acid, Soy Lecithin, Potassium Sorbate, Calcium EDTA, Chitosan, Sucrose

MikeyFXD35
29-10-2009, 04:24 PM
The word from LG is they have kinda given up on Canada for now. They would need to find a manufacture here and even then the formulas would not be the same.

juced_porkchop
29-10-2009, 05:20 PM
They have not given up trying to sort some things out BUT for now yes not to canada.
Im in canada so this sux for me too.
but hopfully soon somthing will be worked out.