My HCG Weightloss Diet

[toplocalsearch]

Day 1:

Alright So I said I was going to make a daily post on my feelings/findings by taking Human chorionic gonadotropin for weightloss and a 500 calorie/day diet.

I am taking Dr. Simeons HCG Protocol Version, not the Kevin Trudeau Version.



So, Sunday the 25th was my first day, I was trying to start on the 24th, but every pharmacy I called didnt carry the Bacteriostatic Water.. anyways I found one on sunday so I started.


The first two days are considered Loading Days.

You are encouraged to Eat like Shit, no real limitations, they even want you to eat the bad kinds of fat aswell. OK?... So I did.


my supply is 5000iu of hcg, and I used 5ml of BacterioStatic Water.


Today I injected 175iu of my solution. Did it in the Stomach Fat, Did not hurt at all. Pain scale 0/10.

10 mins later, very very minor soreness at injection site, but completely gone 30mins later.


30mins after injection I noticed my higher fattie zones, slightly tingle.


Energy felt completely normal, No spikes, No dips, No speedy sensations, nothing out of the ordinary.

Not sure what else to say,

I will measure my sizes and weight when I get home as a Before/after perspective.

Also, Today, Monday I am on the second day loading, So I decided to make day 3 and day 4's meals already.

[tex]

what a concept.....inject hcg and go on a severe calorie deficit.....there are way better and healthier ways to lose weight imo........joo gonna lose a lotta muscle mang :) no offense and all but i think someone comes up with one of these gimmick diets every few years and sells it as the diet to end all.....you are basically starving yourself....not healthy...

good luck!! i just had 1500 calories for my 1st meal ;)

[waderow]

it is a unique protocol that is supposed to feed your body from fat stores instead of catabolizing muscle. I am interested to read up on this.

[ELCANADA]

I honestly knocked the idea of this diet at first but took waderow advise and read up on quite of bit of research. There is actually quite a bit of science and the concept of the diet has been around for some time.

It basically tricks or re programs the hypothalamus to burn fat instead of muscle when in a caloric deficit.

Regardless cant wait to see how your diet pans out toplocalsearch. Thanks for the log.

[toplocalsearch]

Day 2

ok So yesterday was my Day 2, I also Ate poorly as per the diet..(yes I know it sounds funny)

I injected the 175iu again, and I alternated the SubQ injection site from left stomach side to right stomach side.. for no real reason but whatever.

Once again, no real difference in energy, alterness, fatigue, just more excited to start the real diet.


I also have fallen in love with brown rice green tea. I think that is what will keep me going and get my 4 liters of fluids a day.

[waderow]

Day 2

ok So yesterday was my Day 2, I also Ate poorly as per the diet..(yes I know it sounds funny)

I injected the 175iu again, and I alternated the SubQ injection site from left stomach side to right stomach side.. for no real reason but whatever.

Once again, no real difference in energy, alterness, fatigue, just more excited to start the real diet.


I also have fallen in love with brown rice green tea. I think that is what will keep me going and get my 4 liters of fluids a day.


is that much caffeine going to be okay?

[ELCANADA]

Toplocalsearch do you weight train/body build??? I am really interested on how much strength/muscle loss will actually happen.

I would love to see some before stats....bench, dead, squat before and after. It seems all the logs out there are from people who have never stepped foot in a gym. The change in stats would be a great way to test out the catabolic sparing of the HCG.

[Andre]

When I lost 80lbs in 4 months I followed something called a Protein Sparing Modified Fast... this was invented by Dr. George Blackburn at Harvard... I did not use HCG or AAS... the average person only need 5 x 15G's of protein to protect thier muscle mass... I did fine with 6 x 20G's... plus some vegis... almost no starch or sugar...

http://solo2.abac.com/avigdor/temp/diet/Diet%20stuff/fat2fit.doc

[natenator]

should be an interesting journey.

[BIGABOY]

same here i wonder would it work if i guy went on 1000 or 1500 cals a day?

[baza]

I have read up on this a while ago. But I really don't think it's anything for anyone that is remotely athletic or into lifting weights. It should be for the average person who doens't care about muscle mass and that's it.

[toplocalsearch]

Toplocalsearch do you weight train/body build??? I am really interested on how much strength/muscle loss will actually happen.

I would love to see some before stats....bench, dead, squat before and after. It seems all the logs out there are from people who have never stepped foot in a gym. The change in stats would be a great way to test out the catabolic sparing of the HCG.



It probably sounds lazy, but I wanted to try to loose some weight, and if it worked from this diet, and would be so motivated and excited from the results, that I would change my lifestyle and do go to the gym and eat right etc to maintain or even improve how I look after the cycle. If this doesnt work to show any positive results, then Yes, I have to do it the normal way.

When I was growing up, I played Ice Hockey for 8 years, so under my fat, I had/have some above average muscle. I wasnt a skinny twirp, but i wasnt chubby or ripped either. but once i hit 21 or 22. my Metabolism slowed down, and over the past 5 years, I went from 175, to about 205-210. slowly but surely. So Im at that point, where I feel the Biggest in my life and want to stop it in its tracks.


same here i wonder would it work if i guy went on 1000 or 1500 cals a day?

According to the diet, even if you try this protocol with 600 or 700 calories, the extra calories you consume will hinder or reverse the goals your looking for. The HCG supposedly makes your body burn your stored fat as available calories, and is not looking at the consumed calories for energy/nutrients. Something like that.


is that much caffeine going to be okay?
It allows unlimited amount of coffee and tea. aslong as there is no sugar or milk. Maybe the caffeine helps with appetite suppression. I hate coffee, but tea, no problem.


I have read up on this a while ago. But I really don't think it's anything for anyone that is remotely athletic or into lifting weights. It should be for the average person who doens't care about muscle mass and that's it.

It seems to be more for the lazy, fat people of the society, but there are results showing significant losses with muscular people trying to lean out.


I will purchase the ketone sticks to monitor my daily fat loss, and just for you guys on here, I will purchase the other sticks that monitor the muscle loss. I forget what its called, but this diet shouldn't shrink my muscles .... Shouldn't.

[waderow]

I took a bunch of green tea once when dieting, and it was like snorting back an entire eightball in an hour. I was ****ed. Body stone. Jittery. Like I was floating.

Be careful with the caffiene bro.

[toplocalsearch]

Day 3

Breakfast:
Ok Today I drank alot of Tea in the morning, waited til 1:30 to have lunch.

Lunch:
It was 100g of lean steak with all fat trimmed, maybe 80-100g of broccoli, an orange, and 1 teeny tiny single melba toast.

Dinner:
Pretty much the exact same, but with celery instead of broccoli.


And I did 175iu again. Still I have no placebo effect, I do not feel any different during or after the injections.

Surprisingly the Food intake was adequate and I wasnt left hungry at all so far, so good.

[toplocalsearch]

Day 4

Breakfast:

I woke up really early today, 5am... didnt even drink my tea, and I ran out of the house and forgot my injection.

Lunch:
I had 3.5oz of chicken breast and 150grams of brussel sprouts


Dinner:
same as lunch, and an orange.



When i got home, I was extremely hungry, and had dozens of food cravings throughout the day. Then I took my shot, and felt sane! The HCG really does have an influence on your hunger.

jumped on the scale aswell, Starting weight i was 208 on Day 1,


day 4 = 202lbs.


6lbs lost so far. doesnt feel like it, but the scale doesnt Lie right?

[waderow]

do you train?

[Ritch]

If you train, you can forget about this bullshit. Put it this way. Lot`s of guys even with strategic nutrition, training, and drug protocols (protocols much more aggressive than hcg...) tend to loose muscle mass when dieting. This is with 4 times the amount of calories you`re taking in now.

Here`s what`s going to happen. You`re going to loose weight and lot`s of muscle. Then when you go back on a normal diet with less muslce mass than before you will get fatter on the same amount of calories you once ate.

Stop the insanity dude.

[waderow]

you dont know anything about the diet ritch.... the HCG is the key to this protocol, and frees up thousands of calories in fat reserves with out catabolizing muscle... in theory.

read up bro

[Ritch]

you dont know anything about the diet ritch.... the HCG is the key to this protocol, and frees up thousands of calories in fat reserves with out catabolizing muscle... in theory.

read up bro

LOL! Better up the brain function supps and re listen to the superhuman radio episode again.

[waderow]

LOL! Better up the brain function supps and re listen to the superhuman radio episode again.

never heard it... what did it say? was it dispelled before anyone actually tried it because it was too hard for any regular bodybuilder to comprehend? Or did someone try it and show that it catabolized lean muscle mass? Thats what this thread is about. No hearsay....

[Ritch]

never heard it... what did it say? was it dispelled before anyone actually tried it because it was too hard for any regular bodybuilder to comprehend? Or did someone try it and show that it catabolized lean muscle mass? Thats what this thread is about. No hearsay....

The show had a woman advocating the diet, so she was preaching the greatness of it. Carl (the host) often interviews these people with a neutral point of view at first so they can get their point accross. I heard it a while back, I`d have to listen to it again to summarize what she really meant. But the basic was: use hcg, eat 500 cals a day and you`ll loose weight. She may have talked about slowly adding cals for the body to adapt, to prevent rapid weight gain, but can`t say for sure.

Either way, I think we all know this programm is a crock of shit.

[waderow]

no. we dont know that it is a crock of shit. but I guess we'll see soon enough wont we. I am more of a fan of something that has been tried versus something that so and so said on a web radio program that is fear based.

Is is for me? nope. I dont need it.

Is it a crock of shit? who knows, but **** man... lets see.... arent you in the slightest bit interested?

the HCG is supposed to free up c alories from fat reserves. the throid gets flushed or "reset" and you are supposed to keep the weight off, as your metabolism will be normalized post diet.

[Ritch]

Wade, please don`t tell me you think a bodybuilder is going to have success with this program...

This type of theory dosen`t need to be tested to proven false. Like I said earlier. Guys who use much more shit on top of hcg and eat more loose muslce mass while dieting. How the hell is using less steroids and eating less going to result in better gains? It dosen`t add up. It like telling someone who`s tired to sleep 4 hours a night for the next month to feel better. You don`t need to prove that`s ****ed up, just like this diet. It`s probably just a way for the drug companies to up their hcg sales...

[waderow]

well ignore it then. do i think its best for bodybuilding? nope. already stated that. already said its not for me. but it is supposed to be an incredible diet that doesnt rebound. I am curious to see it this is a fact by a factual journal.... not a gut feeling

[Ritch]

I like your openess to other theories, I just can`t accept that one as a valid theory. As I often say the truth lies in the middle. This is way too left wing. Imagine here what chance does some fat ass who loves to eat crap all day have with this diet? They`re bound to fail! Even if it does work, who the hell can follow such rigid guidlines? Unless they`re providing the clients with coke to suppress the appetite and energy, no way in the real world is this doable for a lengthy period of time.

I guess we`ll just have to see. (sits here with arms crossed staring at the wall...)

[waderow]

the whole point of the journal bro


toplocalsearch says the hcg is supressing is appetite. dude, youre not even reading it

[Ritch]

the whole point of the journal bro


toplocalsearch says the hcg is supressing is appetite. dude, youre not even reading it

You`re right, I`m not reading it. And time will prove me right, as I have a gut that often points me in the right direction and my spidy senses are tingling here...

And even if the hcg does cut appetite, it`s not healthy to eat 500 cals a day, so **** these people pushing this diet.

[waderow]

no point in debating you if youre too ignorant to even read whats going on.

that question has been addressed. your body gets ample calories by releasing fat stores. do you want to do this forever? no
will you get muscle gains on it? lol nope.

for a fatty, this could be a godsend.

we will wait and see how he fares.

[Ritch]

I can see how it can frustrate you to discuss this as I haven`t even read it!!! And to the fatties who are going to try this I say don`t you will end up even fatter.

[Memo]

You guys are ruining this thread please... He is doing a log for us, for free and flaming is inappropriate. Ritch if you want you can start a thread against HCG diet with your info to support your claim.

I am not trying to be a smartass I only want to keep this log alive.

[Ritch]

LOL^^^ True enough, I think it`s quiting time...

[natenator]

You`re right, I`m not reading it. And time will prove me right, as I have a gut that often points me in the right direction and my spidy senses are tingling here...

And even if the hcg does cut appetite, it`s not healthy to eat 500 cals a day, so **** these people pushing this diet.
Ritch: you really are an ignorant one aren't you?

[toplocalsearch]

so **** these people pushing this diet.

Did I ever comment, Yo Man! Im an HCG source. Buy from me!! Tard...


I can see how it can frustrate you to discuss this as I haven`t even read it!!! And to the fatties who are going to try this I say don`t you will end up even fatter.

We'll see, I am not a obese fatty, but i have a halfway beer gut.

we'll see.


Ritch: you really are an ignorant one aren't you?

Yes, I think his ego is bigger that his muscles. He is from Quebec after all.

[Memo]

Yes, I think his ego is bigger that his muscles. He is from Quebec after all.

Don't get Quebec involve..

[toplocalsearch]

Don't get Quebec involve..

no worries, just a lil fun.

[tex]

kevin trudeau..the big guy behind this madness went to prison for fraud. the publisher of the diet book has an injunction levied against it by the federal trade commission for deceptive advertising. i say you are gonna lose weight no matter what if you eat 800 calories a day......and the hcg does NOT blunt hunger...this is psychological....they also say that you will lose weight wherever you want it gone and keep weight where you want it as well.....maybe kevin trudeau is the gypsy from the movie "Thinner"!!!!!

[toplocalsearch]

kevin trudeau..the big guy behind this madness went to prison for fraud. the publisher of the diet book has an injunction levied against it by the federal trade commission for deceptive advertising. i say you are gonna lose weight no matter what if you eat 800 calories a day......and the hcg does NOT blunt hunger...this is psychological....they also say that you will lose weight wherever you want it gone and keep weight where you want it as well.....maybe kevin trudeau is the gypsy from the movie "Thinner"!!!!!

lol that is a great movie.


but kevin trudeau isnt the man behind the plan, Dr.Simeon back in the 50's wrote this diet protocol.

[waderow]

Yes, I think his ego is bigger that his muscles. He is from Quebec after all.

lolololololololol haaaaaahahaaaa

[Memo]

lolololololololol haaaaaahahaaaa

You guys are just jealous.

[Ritch]

Ritch: you really are an ignorant one aren't you?

Nate don`t tell me you agree with this shit. We once had an argument over something of which you did in the end agree with me... Don`t think we need to do that again...

[waderow]

Ritch. **** off already. Youre really starting to look like a douche. You have no idea what the diet is, or why it is being run, as youre too ****ing ignorant to read.

So go make a thread telling us all how to get huge and leave this dude alone already.

[Ritch]

Ritch. **** off already. Youre really starting to look like a douche. You have no idea what the diet is, or why it is being run, as youre too ****ing ignorant to read.

So go make a thread telling us all how to get huge and leave this dude alone already.

Yeah, whatever. So if this diet is so effective why not try a 250 cal diet? Wade, I really don`t appreciate what you just said here dude. Didn`t expect that type of crap from you directed my way.

this diet is the equivalent of some dude trying to get a tan outside at midnight. Will just lead to dissapointment and insanity.

[waderow]

This isnt a bodybuilding cut diet for the tenth time.

Its an obesity diet that has merit, and most everyone except you is interested to see the results

hcgdietinfo.com/Dr-ATW-Simeons-Pounds-and-Inches.htm

[Ritch]

Alright, I will read the diet. Not sure when but sometiems by next week, just so I can know exactly what I`m shitting on here...

[waderow]

Alright, I will read the diet. Not sure when but sometiems by next week, just so I can know exactly what I`m shitting on here...

cool. then we can be buddies again... sheesh.. lol

[Ritch]

:friday

[Andre]

I don't see no love here :)

[toplocalsearch]

Sorry everyone, for 2-3 days now, I am dealing with the flu, h1n1 or normal, im not sure. two days ago I stopped the injections just so I can eat a bit more. today I am at 199lbs.

I dont plan to restart this for another week or two, then I will do another 5000iu vial, and start from day 1 again cause my current solution might not be as effective to use weeks from now. Dont worry thou, Ill make my day 1 - 43 posts to give real world results on this diet.

thanks everyone 4 now.