10 months on, now PCT

[KINE]

Been on since december of last year, 400mg test e with a few months of cruising at 200/week in between. Iv been scared shitless to come off but finally did. Its been three weeks, HCG before coming off, now novla @ 20/d and clomid @100/d. Feeling good, was alittle down the second week but my libido is at 50% now and energy is climing....sooo much better then I expected.

[azian257]

thats one long ass cycle.

[daande]

If you start feeling down its from the clomid it ****ed me after my first cycle I hated life for the full month I was on it and I was onl doing 50mg a day.

[overboost]

I just came off a 9 month run a lil bit ago, finished pct and im surprised how good i feel. Cant wait to get fired up again! haha! I think the HCG really helped in my recovery and will certainly be including it as part or my pct regimine for up coming cycles. Glad to hear your recovering good bro!

[BAM]

3 weeks? Wait until the 2 month point and then tell us how you feel.

[kawikaratekid]

Were you still making good gains during the last couple months? Or did you plateau?

[waderow]

3 weeks? Wait until the 2 month point and then tell us how you feel.

yup, right now you may be fine, but in a few weeks things might get dicey.

[theboss]

yup, right now you may be fine, but in a few weeks things might get dicey.

x2

[GYMBRAT]

x3, I felt fine until the 1.5-2 mth mark after my yr long cycle, though it wasnt nearly as bad as I figured it would be, hence the reason why I cant say anything bad "for myself" on lengthy cycles......PCT was HCG cycled every couple wks through out right through to the end of my nolva-clomid PCT

.....My advice for you would be to keep feeding yourself HCG-nolva-clomid for a few more wks...jmo

I should correct that sorry.....HCG 1st wk of PCT

[KINE]

Were you still making good gains during the last couple months? Or did you plateau?

No, training had stalled, i was only able to get in to the gym twice a week.


I just hope the cialis I have works so i can get pass that low point that will probably come.

[Varlover]

I thought that HCG was a no no for PCT?

[GYMBRAT]

I used it for my first wk of PCT, with great success :)

[nisser]

3 weeks is just the beginning of the downhill so you still have lots of room to be ****ed up.

[bongd]

I thought that HCG was a no no for PCT?

It can be argued with very valid points both ways. Some endocrinologists will advise it. Some people worry about desensitization, etc. I think it's worth it though.

A big blast of HCG during PCT to wake up the leydigs and get LH and FSH flowing. Then a couple more shots. No more than 5000iu total. I did 2000iu twice, then a couple 500iu shots and recovered fine after a longer cycle.

One thing I'd recommend with longer cycles is to blast and cruise. There are a ton of reasons why it's beneficial. One of the biggest ones would be catabolic hormones like cortisol... I'm running a longer cycle now and don't have plans of completely coming off for at least a year. I'm currently cruising and my cortisol has gone way down. Before I come off I'll be sure to have cruised on a lower dose for a while too. It makes a big difference coming off of lower dosed hormones than a huge blast of androgens.

Best of luck with the recovery, bro. There'll be a few road bumps but it's nothing that'll keep you down for long.

[GYMBRAT]

well said bongd!!

[tex]

you'll be fine. keep eating and training....

[KINE]

I think I'll do a few more small shots of hcg at 500iu's. I also have a little bit of letro and adex fyi

[BAM]

If you've already been off for 3 weeks, I wouldnt be doing that hcg anymore.

[waderow]

Next time try taking after steroid hormone cessation:

HCG: 2500iu EOD for 16 days (8 shots)
Clomid 50mg twice a day for 30 days
Nolvadex 20mg ED for 45 days

this is the only medically proven way to get the testes back to normal

[nitrous]

ya like they said it usually gets worse form there from my experience.. just keep eating and training and it shouldnt be that bad.. and like you already have planned any issues then pop a cialis

[bongd]

you'll be fine. keep eating and training....

This is also great advise that gets overlooked and completely unappreciated.

Eat hard and train hard. Say that a few times over in your head and think about it from different angles - Eat hard, train hard... it sounds simple enough as a concept, but to execute this game plan during a drab time like "PCT" can be tough.

Again, best of luck, homies. Some people can breeze through PCT and others, like myself, can find it to be more of a struggle. Think positive and stay motivated.

[KINE]

Well, so far so good. I am gauging my recovery by libido and strength and both are much better then i expected...so far

[GYMBRAT]

very good to hear thus far bro! keep positive!

[KINE]

Ok so just giving you guys an update. I am fully recovered, and horny as fuk. I was worried for a bit since i was on sooo long but i am good now. Shit I have to start planning my next cycle lol

[BAM]

What was your hcg therapy like?

Dosage
How often
Start point
Stop point.

Thanks.

[BAM]

bump

[gicantor]

Ok so just giving you guys an update. I am fully recovered, and horny as fuk. I was worried for a bit since i was on sooo long but i am good now. Shit I have to start planning my next cycle lol

How do you know you recovered? Did you get bloodwork? Being horny doesn't mean recovered.

[KINE]

Hcg was 1500 iu's x3 over two weeks. No haven't gotten blood work, but my energy is back to normal, sex drive is 100%, strength is back, and I feel all around back to normal. After 10 months on I'd say thats recovered.

[BAM]

How long has it been since your last shot of test?

[KINE]

I think october 1st was my last shot