27 days out pics

[yeahbuddy]

Hey everyone, this is my first post at canadabodybuilding. i have a bb comp in 4 weeks, i have attached some pics i took today, feel free to lash away with comments, i am behind in terms of bf at this point.

[yeahbuddy]

fukk pics are too big, srry guys im new lol, ill resize them.

[natenator]

resize those ****ers!

[Timbo89]

pics are too big, i can seee your pores for **** sakes.

[natenator]

lmao

[yeahbuddy]

lol here u go

[natenator]

long way to go still

[z83]

is that a slight case of gyno ?

[JacktheThriller]

looking good still got to cut water and some BF and your off to the races, side pose is your best

[CanadianIron]

Hit up a pharmacy and get a bar of acne soap with benzyl peroxide... i soap up with it and my acne is almost non existant compared to previous cycles... it dries the skin like a mofo, but works very well.

Other than that, you looking huge...

[Ritch]

I`m no expert here, but 4 weeks does not leave you nearly enough time. I`d skip the comp and try to do one later.

[rated_rko]

looking solid

[natenator]

guys: he's 4 weeks out. don't ego stroke him with saying he's looking good, etc. He looks good but is no where near where he should be at 4 weeks out.

[JonnyO]

I agree, 4 weeks doesnt seem to be anough time from these pictures.

[Mr Ontario]

Well he said he was behind anyways....there just for fun anyways right? :)

[natenator]

Well he said he was behind anyways....there just for fun anyways right? :)
not competing isnt just for fun. If you are doing it just for fun stay the **** off the stage so those are are there for business don't have to deal with your ass. Makes for a quicker show if the retards doing it for "fun" stay the hell home

[steve_d]

yes, bodybuilding is not "for fun"....It can be fun, but there are too many competitors that shouldn't compete and do it so they can say "I stepped up on that stage". But what good is stepping on a stage when you aren't ready?

Or the "I lost 200 pounds to be here". Yet, they still weigh 200 pounds, are female, and would only have the muscle mass to look in "shape" at 120 pounds!

The reason I say this is to not disrespect the efforts put in by those individuals. I am sure they put in a lot of work...But I find it takes away from those who realllllllly take the sport seriously (even if they aren't huge). I have more respect for a bodybuilder who did everything right to look good on stage, but loses to someone who didn't try, but naturally had more muscle and happened to be good enough to take away the trophy.

Moral of the story, you should probably wait. It IS possible for you to compete in 4 weeks and be quite lean, but it would require more fat loss then you should need to do to hold onto your muscle optimally at this point. You'll end up hurting yourself in the long run (if you show up ripped in 4 weeks).

[C-money]

I dont see the big deal here guys.. he knows hes behind schedule.. I say go ahead and do the comp, its a learning experience, hell maybe you will learn some things these last 4 weeks that might help your next comp prep! Stick with it bro! You look about 6-7 weeks out for next time IMHO.

[natenator]

I dont see the big deal here guys.. he knows hes behind schedule.. I say go ahead and do the comp, its a learning experience, hell maybe you will learn some things these last 4 weeks that might help your next comp prep! Stick with it bro! You look about 6-7 weeks out for next time IMHO.
People who compete need people to be honest with them and tell them when they look like shit and shouldn't step on stage. I wouldn't want someone to say I looked good when I really wasn't then go up on stage and embarrass myself.

blowing smoke up someone's ass and telling them to go ahead and get on stage when they are not ready does not help that person.

[C-money]

People who compete need people to be honest with them and tell them when they look like shit and shouldn't step on stage. I wouldn't want someone to say I looked good when I really wasn't then go up on stage and embarrass myself.

blowing smoke up someone's ass and telling them to go ahead and get on stage when they are not ready does not help that person.

I wouldnt say he looks like shit Nate, just behind.. needs to beef up his legs but i think he would look decent all said and done...

[natenator]

I wouldnt say he looks like shit Nate, just behind.. needs to beef up his legs but i think he would look decent all said and done...
And that's the problem with people who compete these days. Looking "decent" on stage has become acceptable.

I didn't say HE looked like shit... I was just generalizing that there is stage ready and "decent"

[phatkid77]

wow!! is all i got to say... i think if he annialated cardio, he would look acceptable..behind yes, but ive seen someone on promuscle to something similar...ill look....

and i have to disagree with your attitude NATE... i am going to do a show, i have no grandeurs of winning, so be it...this is personal goals of people...who really cares......

yes, if stepping on stage one must take constructive critiscm...like when i saw your pics in your prep thread, thick yes, but my dumb eye guesses u need to drop 70+lb to get on stage (hard to tell, no front shots)...but i dont say anything cause who the hell knows how your body will respond... and maybe getting "lean as possible" then adding size from there is what you want to do......who knows...

i certainly dont want this to turn into a E war of words...lol

that said, looks like YEAHBUDDY used too much drugs, and is behind....

phats

[natenator]

50-60 would be a a correct assessment but you failed to miss the point I was making. People have started competing "just to do it". Not everyone can win but everyone should at least look the part.

Sometimes getting on stage for that particular show just isn't in the cards because as you say who knows how the body will respond and there's no shame if you couldn't pull it together in time as long as you ended better than you started and learned something along the way. Pull that knowledge and new body into getting on stage the next year now that you have some experience behind you.

If you aren't ready for the stage then why go up is my question?

[GYMBRAT]

I know when I step on that f**kin stage it's going to be to win the whole f**kin show...no f**kin around man!

.....but hey bro you look great and yes behind fore sure!

[phatkid77]

i agree nate, my goal is to not look like a tourist....lmao

and for my first show... i looked bad and at 24wks diet...just wanted it to be over....lol....

i dont think the stages are flooded with tourist.....dont go regularily..although..did look at stratfords or londons this yr...and middles and lt heavys were brutal......

i do get what you are saying....people that are REAL BAD...are there friends tellin them they look great??? fack

phats

5wks
http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/members-photos/23926-5-weeks-out.html

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http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/members-photos/51180-pictures-todays-prejudging.html

[nisser]

People who compete need people to be honest with them and tell them when they look like shit and shouldn't step on stage. I wouldn't want someone to say I looked good when I really wasn't then go up on stage and embarrass myself.

blowing smoke up someone's ass and telling them to go ahead and get on stage when they are not ready does not help that person.

You're being a giant douchebag. First of all, you have no idea what kind of competition he's setting himself up for. He's probably not going for the nationals. If he's doing a small local show, who's to say he can't ****ing take it?

Seriously, just shut up and get some ****ing tact.

[bigtavi8]

im offended that you hated the light heavys at stratford. LOL its aright tho..! IMO that was the best light heavy of all time. Especially that junior who came in fourth. Heard he was a douche tho. So i dont no...

[bigtavi8]

Im not one to take Nates side every time but he has a good point here. Hes not afraid to say shit when its due. Too many ppl want to jump on stage half assed and it makes the shows look like jokes. But as for the original poster. Man do not stress about this. You have four weeks. If i was you judging by how my body reacted i would take a look at my diet. Also i would adjust my cardio to 45mins a day 7 days a week minimum. Just adjust diet and cardio and make the last week really count by doing your carb up and depletion. You will be shreded. You behind but imo its better to not be fully peaked a month out or else its hell trying to stay like that and not lose muscle.

[steve_d]

I would say more than 45 a day depending on calories. Although that is just what I am used to... He can look great, but it would require more effort in these final weeks than what would be beneficial to him in the long run. No one should need to lose a lot in the last 4 weeks - whether it can be done or not.

In the end what he should do is either compete and look "decent" or not compete at all. Although I have agreed with Nate, I can understand another side to this coin...He looks really young, and when I was young I competed nowhere near as ripped as I could have been - and I am glad I didn't...he can always take in this show as experience and work on getting leaner each show after that.

[ironwill]

he could just say he has an injury and drop out....this is a tuff sport....Not meant for everyone....I think he looks decent and with 4 weeks if he really focuses may lose a bit of muscle, but can still pull it off......
Stay healthy dude and do the best you can on the day when it arrives......
Either that or say you pulled a bicep, then you can quit and hang on the sidelines.....
thats what some guys do...., then you can bitch at everyone elses shortcomings and then you can say you are just telling it like it is...because that takes real balls you know...telling it like it is on the net....lmao....
sarcasm intended....

[natenator]

You're being a giant douchebag. First of all, you have no idea what kind of competition he's setting himself up for. He's probably not going for the nationals. If he's doing a small local show, who's to say he can't ****ing take it?

Seriously, just shut up and get some ****ing tact.
you are obviously too ****ing stupid to comprehend what I and a couple others here have said so let me break it down for you:

If you aren't ready then don't go. There's no shame in not making it and in trying to get ready one could create some problems for themselves by pushing the envelop.

[natenator]

he could just say he has an injury and drop out....this is a tuff sport....Not meant for everyone....I think he looks decent and with 4 weeks if he really focuses may lose a bit of muscle, but can still pull it off......
Stay healthy dude and do the best you can on the day when it arrives......
Either that or say you pulled a bicep, then you can quit and hang on the sidelines.....
thats what some guys do...., then you can bitch at everyone elses shortcomings and then you can say you are just telling it like it is...because that takes real balls you know...telling it like it is on the net....lmao....
sarcasm intended....
hehe you are a funny funny boy :D

[waderow]

In Nates defense,
All he said was the guy wasnt ready and had a long way to go to be show ready. I would hope the dude was looking for honest feedback. It started with a degree of tact, but got a little nastier after everyone trenned out on everyone.

[Andre]

Tough crowd here :)

I am thinking about doing my 1st show next spring... I will make sure I am contest ready before posting pics ;)

I might have missed it... what show is yeahbuddy doing?

I have seen people in worse shape on stage at low level shows...

I am hoping this will be the case when I get up there in my speedos... hehehe

[natenator]

I have seen people in worse shape on stage at low level shows...


This is the point I am attempting to make.

[Andre]

This is the point I am attempting to make.

I know :)

If I don't look like I am ready, I would hope that people would be honest with me and tell me like it is...

[physique]

yes u arent ready yet. but personally its up to "YOU" if u wish to step on stage. dont listen to anyone on this site. (no offense guys) use the show as a stepping stone for the next one, or to create a fire for the next one, or to learn as much as u can and meet people for the next one. or maybe u will find this isnt for u.

to tell someone he/she shouldnt compete though, because the so called gurus on this board dont think u are ready yet i agree isnt proper tact. not everyone gets on stage and is peeled and huge there first show, if that was the case everyone would be a champ. Yes he posts looking for advice and he got it, i will agree with you there. but in the end its still his choice! Even the pros follow thru on competing when they arent in the best shape, so how can we sit here and tell this guy not too?

The sport needs all kinds of athletes for it to succeed, some are great, and some need work. thats why this sport kicks ass, cause it usually brings people together to help achieve this feat.

[slick rick]

you are obviously too ****ing stupid to comprehend what I and a couple others here have said so let me break it down for you:

If you aren't ready then don't go. There's no shame in not making it and in trying to get ready one could create some problems for themselves by pushing the envelop.

Seriously??

There is more shame in quitting that following through with your goals. Yeahbuddy may not take home the trophy but atleast he got on stage. i remember a guy on Nexus, Ironman i think his handle was, he posted pics and there were a few vets that told him to wait, he followed through and got on stage and delivered, posted pics of himself after the show with his family and the look on his face said it all. It's about working towards something and the feeling of accomplishment, win or lose.

[natenator]

Seriously??

There is more shame in quitting that following through with your goals. Yeahbuddy may not take home the trophy but atleast he got on stage. i remember a guy on Nexus, Ironman i think his handle was, he posted pics and there were a few vets that told him to wait, he followed through and got on stage and delivered, posted pics of himself after the show with his family and the look on his face said it all. It's about working towards something and the feeling of accomplishment, win or lose.
And I've seen guys follow through by pushing the envelop to end up with some serious issues once the show was over - kidney issues, metabolic issues, severe water retention issues (not just normal post-show water gain) and complete and utter burnout from overtraining not to mention severe insomnia.

Oh and a few landed themselves in the hospital before they made it to the night show stage.

I'm sure felt a real sense of accomplishment

[waderow]

yes u arent ready yet. but personally its up to "YOU" if u wish to step on stage. dont listen to anyone on this site. (no offense guys) use the show as a stepping stone for the next one, or to create a fire for the next one, or to learn as much as u can and meet people for the next one. or maybe u will find this isnt for u.

to tell someone he/she shouldnt compete though, because the so called gurus on this board dont think u are ready yet i agree isnt proper tact. not everyone gets on stage and is peeled and huge there first show, if that was the case everyone would be a champ. Yes he posts looking for advice and he got it, i will agree with you there. but in the end its still his choice! Even the pros follow thru on competing when they arent in the best shape, so how can we sit here and tell this guy not too?

The sport needs all kinds of athletes for it to succeed, some are great, and some need work. thats why this sport kicks ass, cause it usually brings people together to help achieve this feat.

green

[slick rick]

And I've seen guys follow through by pushing the envelop to end up with some serious issues once the show was over - kidney issues, metabolic issues, severe water retention issues (not just normal post-show water gain) and complete and utter burnout from overtraining not to mention severe insomnia.

Oh and a few landed themselves in the hospital before they made it to the night show stage.

I'm sure felt a real sense of accomplishment


Dude.. people push the envelope whether they are stage ready or not.

[natenator]

Dude.. people push the envelope whether they are stage ready or not.
but when you are behind you tend to REALLY push it even further. The fear of letting yourself down; those rooting for you; your trainer; etc will push you into doing things or ignoring things that you really shouldn't.

A member here pulled out because he was in Kidney failure. He only had another 3.5 weeks to go when he pulled the plug. I guess he shoulda kept on with his goals because of his sense of accomplishment?

[natenator]

guys: he's 4 weeks out. don't ego stroke him with saying he's looking good, etc. He looks good but is no where near where he should be at 4 weeks out.

Just for the record to all you who think I said HE should pull out this is what I originally wrote.

I did not say he should pull out. I said we should not ego stroke someone looking for feedback which is what most did prior to me posting this. Feedback means being honest especially with someone doing their first show AND who is young and doesn't have the experience to tell for themselves how things are shaping up.

[steve_d]

And I've seen guys follow through by pushing the envelop to end up with some serious issues once the show was over - kidney issues, metabolic issues, severe water retention issues (not just normal post-show water gain) and complete and utter burnout from overtraining not to mention severe insomnia.

Oh and a few landed themselves in the hospital before they made it to the night show stage.

I'm sure felt a real sense of accomplishment

not too mention eating disorders that not only women get, but I've known of a couple of girls that ended up worse off after competing then they would have had they just not competed. This lasted for years and years...Dieting is hard on you, and I am not just talking the day of the show or weeks leading to the show. Its not a sport to take lightly - many people end up less in shape after a contest (not to mention never compete again) than they were before even contemplating the contest to begin with.

Those happy pictures that you see with the achievment really doesn't last more than a day or two until you realize it was just 1 show, and NOW WHAT....I am nottrying to discourage the sport, but for many first timers, the sport is an eye opener and can have some not so good consequences in the long run.

That is why I think IF he choses to compete, don't do anything drastic. Don't try to look your best this time. Take it 1 show at a time. Improve slowly. Don't sacrifice muscle to look a little sharper.

If you agree with those that say you shouldn't compete unless you are "ready" then don't compete this time. Don't try to lose too much for the sake of getting cut.

If you agree with those that this can be a learning experience, then by all means compete at a respectible 8-9% bodyfat.

[slick rick]

but when you are behind you tend to REALLY push it even further. The fear of letting yourself down; those rooting for you; your trainer; etc will push you into doing things or ignoring things that you really shouldn't.

A member here pulled out because he was in Kidney failure. He only had another 3.5 weeks to go when he pulled the plug. I guess he shoulda kept on with his goals because of his sense of accomplishment?


From what I heard this member was in great shape to hit the stage, it wasn't because he was behind schedule, i could be wrong. And thats my point, people push it regardless. No where was it mentioned that yeahbuddy was going to go to extremes and put his health at risk to get on stage.

[ironwill]

yes u arent ready yet. but personally its up to "YOU" if u wish to step on stage. dont listen to anyone on this site. (no offense guys) use the show as a stepping stone for the next one, or to create a fire for the next one, or to learn as much as u can and meet people for the next one. or maybe u will find this isnt for u.

to tell someone he/she shouldnt compete though, because the so called gurus on this board dont think u are ready yet i agree isnt proper tact. not everyone gets on stage and is peeled and huge there first show, if that was the case everyone would be a champ. Yes he posts looking for advice and he got it, i will agree with you there. but in the end its still his choice! Even the pros follow thru on competing when they arent in the best shape, so how can we sit here and tell this guy not too?

The sport needs all kinds of athletes for it to succeed, some are great, and some need work. thats why this sport kicks ass, cause it usually brings people together to help achieve this feat.


good post phys....

[Praetorian]

Just for the record to all you who think I said HE should pull out this is what I originally wrote.

I did not say he should pull out. I said we should not ego stroke someone looking for feedback which is what most did prior to me posting this. Feedback means being honest especially with someone doing their first show AND who is young and doesn't have the experience to tell for themselves how things are shaping up.

This is the 100% TRUTH!!! It takes a very good friend to be honest with you and tell you the truth. Case in point...last year at the Mr O Jay Cutler was having lunch the day after he lost the O with a couple friends. Everyone was telling him how he got robbed blah blah blah....except one guy who said " you know Jay you really werent in shape...thats why you lost. Jay said thanks at least I know you are a true friend and I appreciate the honesty. The other idiots just sat there.
Everyone says its a good learning experience...very true but you arent learning a thing if you dont have people being honest with you because you need to know where you stand in terms of conditioning. At 4 weeks out he has a long way to go...not to say he cant improve and possibly look respectable...I have many clients that change dramatically in 4 weeks.
A few things necessary to improve...drop all starchy carbs, cardio should be twice daily every day minimum 60min each session. Alternate pro/no fat days with pro/fat days.
P

[natenator]

From what I heard this member was in great shape to hit the stage, it wasn't because he was behind schedule, i could be wrong. And thats my point, people push it regardless. No where was it mentioned that yeahbuddy was going to go to extremes and put his health at risk to get on stage.
Has nothing to do with his conditioning. I was going back to your words about a sense of accomplishment. What good is that sense of accomplishment if it means health problems?


Seriously??

There is more shame in quitting that following through with your goals. Yeahbuddy may not take home the trophy but atleast he got on stage. i remember a guy on Nexus, Ironman i think his handle was, he posted pics and there were a few vets that told him to wait, he followed through and got on stage and delivered, posted pics of himself after the show with his family and the look on his face said it all. It's about working towards something and the feeling of accomplishment, win or lose.

[ironwill]

Very respectable way to put it P.......its all in the message, and how one conveys it and follows up with some good input on how to reach the goal.....THAT is what an honest true friend does......100 percent bro....good post

[buildinthaskinnys]

I say do it, big changes can happen in 4 to 6 weeks, in my opinion you are holding more water than anything and i would guess at about 7-9 % bodyfat, you still have time, **** even the pros **** up the timing, people should get off their high horses here sometimes. sheesh. Maybe Im not right but at least trying to be positive, if I dedicated myself to competing be damned that im gonna drop out the day before because Im 1 or 2 weeks out from perfection.

STAY THE COURSE!:bch

[Andre]

What show is it... where is it happening?

[Andre]

I searched the date and I think this might be the show... it's put on by my favorite supplement company... MVP!

I think I might go down to the show... is anyone else interested in going?

UFE Presents: The MVP Quest - November 21, 2009
The McIntyre Theatre @ Mohawk College
Hamilton, ON, Canada
**Featuring the best UFE Competitors vying for over $50,000 in CASH and prizes!**
Sean Everingham, President
UFEshows@sympatico.ca
ufeshows.com

[yeahbuddy]

I've been reading everyone replys, and i got to say the people that said im behind and got a long ways to go, i TOTALLY agree. I got alot of work ahead of me, i truly respect the honest replys, thats what i was looking for and thank you guys for that. I know I dont look that way i should right now ... really underpar. This is my second show im doing, the first show i ****ed up bad, my diet was all over the place. Its so hard to stay on a strict diet, thats what i respect the most from guys that come in really shredded, it takes soooo much dedication and im just learning that. But I gotta do this show to prove to myself that I can finish it off, i know theres a chance i wont look my best, but im gonna definetly do my best with where im at. Im cant quit, ive definetly thought of it, I dont wanna make excuses that its too hard or i dont have a coach or training partner, etc. If u really want it, u can accomplish ALMOST anything. Im doing the OPA level 1 in London, on November 21. I recently competed in the OPA in Woodstock, ill post one pic from that show (not very proud of the way I looked lol), i took 2nd in juniors, and 4th in lightheavy. Thanks again guys for taking the time to reply.

[yeahbuddy]

Obviously im the fatass on the left lol, the guy right of me won the whole show, he looked amazing!!

[physique]

Very respectable way to put it P.......its all in the message, and how one conveys it and follows up with some good input on how to reach the goal.....THAT is what an honest true friend does......100 percent bro....good post

Thanks