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elmatador
19-10-2009, 12:39 PM
Hi Guys,

I started PCT about three weeks ago. Anyway, during this time my strength gains went down to shit. I have zero motivation to go to the gym coz i am always feeling tired.

Is it coz of zero test production of my balls? How long does this last for?

I was using HCG during my cycle so my balls are nice and plump. My sex drive has also gone down to shit.

I am only taking Nolvadex for PCT, 40/20/20/10. Came off a 12 week cycle. Let me know if i need to throw something else in?

theboss
19-10-2009, 12:55 PM
what was the cycle? doesnt sound like you have recovered fully....

JonnyO
19-10-2009, 12:59 PM
well your def crashing bro. Maybe get more HCG and some Clomid to run with the Nolva.

elmatador
19-10-2009, 01:03 PM
what was the cycle? doesnt sound like you have recovered fully....

Weeks 1-12 Test Prop 125mg/eod
Weeks 1-8 Anavar 50mg/ed

It was my first cycle ever. I initially started with 100mg eod of prop but then i upped it to 125mg at about week 3

elmatador
19-10-2009, 01:05 PM
i have clomid on hand and also HCG as well. I didnt want to use the clomid coz of shitty sides which would make me feel even more like shit. But if it can help with the recovery process then i can throw it in.

JonnyO
19-10-2009, 01:08 PM
How would you know clomid has shitty sides if this is your first cycle??? Cant get any worse feeling than you are now bro!

GYMBRAT
19-10-2009, 01:11 PM
well your def crashing bro. Maybe get more HCG and some Clomid to run with the Nolva.

x2

elmatador
19-10-2009, 01:13 PM
How would you know clomid has shitty sides if this is your first cycle??? Cant get any worse feeling than you are now bro!

I just heard about it from reading other threads. What would you guys recommend starting the clomid dose to?

theboss
19-10-2009, 01:22 PM
i prefer clomid...cause it works.

elmatador
19-10-2009, 01:37 PM
i prefer clomid...cause it works.

what dose should i start with bro?

L3
19-10-2009, 01:41 PM
50mg... 100 had me crying

PdH
19-10-2009, 02:39 PM
Nolva makes me tired and feeling kinda shitty. Others have said the same. Switching to Clomid might help, or not. Unfortunately for some of us lethargy is one of the costs of pct. If switching to clomid doesn't help, have a nap before you train, it makes a difference. :)

Repmeister
19-10-2009, 03:06 PM
I am currently on a Clomid/Nolva PCT. Yes, motivation is low but that is to be expected after months of super high test levels. Sex drive is also low, but again, to be expected. I started the clomid at 100 mg for 15 days and now at 50 mg for another 15 days. 20 mg Nolva ed in addition. I know this seems long but I was on for almost eight months (loved it). Now starting to feel normal again. I did not find clomid too bad. First time using it and I was expecting the worst too from my reading, but, really not too bad at all.
I have changed up my training a bit to three days a week and only basic heavy exercises. eg. Monday Bench x 10 sets heavy and then some tri and bi work not too many sets but as heavy as I can go. Wed is legs - squats. Friday is back - deadlifts and pullups. I change up the exercises slightly but always stay basic. For example, first monday will be all flat bench, next one is all incline third is decline, etc. I have found that this helps recovery by not going crazy with a lot of sets.

Anyway, be patient. It does take time. Hopefully you'll be back to normal soon and training hard. Good luck.