new cycle any thoughts?

[DRAPE09]

per week-p/w per day-p/d

week 1 - 30mg winni p/d 250mg test cyp p/w
week 2 - 50mg winni p/d 250mg test cyp p/w
week 3 - 50mg winni p/d 500mg test cyp p/w
week 4 - 50mg winni p/d 250mg test cyp p/w
week 5 - 50mg winni p/d 400mg test prop and 280mg tren ace p/w
week 6 - 25mg winni p/d 750mg test cyp p/w
week 7 - 25mg winni p/d 300mg test prop and 210mg tren ace p/w
week 8 - 25mg winni p/d
week 9 - 25mg winni p/d 250mg test cyp p/k
week 10 - 20mg winni p/d 100mg test prop 70mg tren ace p/w
week 11 - 20mg winni p/d 100mg test prop 70mg tren ace p/w

I also have letrozole for pct, not sure when to run it????:fback

[Memo]

I am pretty new to all this and I was wondering why the test dosage change from weeks to weeks

[monkey]

???your joking??
One google search should give you a better PCT than that?
why make it so complicated?? choose a dose and stick to it... unless you love hormone fluctuations...
Winny throughout the entire cycle?? What is your goal??

[Damonic]

It looks to me like you are trying to run an 11 week cycle with 1 bottle of cyp, 1 bottle of profina, and a bottle of oral winny. I cant even figure out how to make a worth while cycle out of that. Try dropping the cyp and getting 5 more profina bottles. 1.5cc a day every other day and 6 weeks of winny @ 50mg a day. Pct should be clomid and your letrozole as well as hcg and maybe some clen.

[theboss]

first....lets talk about your stats and cycle experience...
cause what you posted is not so good....cycle or PCT !!

[DRAPE09]

Ya you pretty much nailed it bro.. i have one bottle profina, one test cyp, 3 winni and one oral winnni.Not suer why i made it so complicated , really its just the way it worked out on paper , not to familiar with clomid an hcg, but i do have clen as well that i forgot to mention, how should i run that pct??? wait till im off cycle, or start while im on?
thanks for the feedback

[theboss]

letro is not PCT.

[DRAPE09]

should i only run letro if i feel i need to then? to be honest i dont know f*ck all about pct...

[Damonic]

You need to get clomid at the very least. Start it a couple days after your last shot. 100mg a day for 2 weeks. Then 50mg a day for 3 more weeks after. If you can get nolva that would help to.

[theboss]

DRAPE09......what are your stats and cycle experience ?????????????????

[PdH]

Winny is a finishing hormone that is normally run for the last 4 weeks leading up to a contest. What's the point of running it throughout? Why do you want to run clen in PCT?

Your levels are all over the place which won't be helpful. Run the Test C and Tren A at stable weekly levels. You're going to get shut down hard from the Tren so you really should get your PCT down before you start.

[DRAPE09]

stats, cycle experience.... pretty new to the whole thing, ive done one cycle befor just got bloaded to sh*t, mainly been all natural for the last few years , started researching alot lately, any feed back is good ? so basically no experience in this department...

[GYMBRAT]

not being a dick bro but, start reading and studying, your not "qualified" to run a cycle as of yet ;) sorry, just looking out for your best interest :)

[DRAPE09]

haha ya well im deff no expert.... looks like im gunna have to switch it up tho... you have any ideas?

[nisser]

Lock that shit up away and start reading. Then open the drawer again once you don't have to say this:

"haha ya well im deff no expert.... looks like im gunna have to switch it up tho... you have any ideas? "

[PdH]

My advice is to become more knowledgeable about all phases of gear use. However, you're probably going to cycle anyway, so do it safely. 200 mg Test C E3D for ten weeks. PCT of Nolva/Clomid. That's it. Keep it simple and manageable. With proper diet and training you'll achieve far more gains than with the other 'cycle' you have posted. Good luck. :)

[Praetorian]

That is one awful looking cycle with terrible PCT...no offense but it screams lack of information. I would really suggest doing some extensive research prior to touching anything...you are asking for trouble with cycles like that....especially winstrol offseason...thats an injury waiting to happen.
There is plenty o good infromation on here just do some searching.
P

[DRAPE09]

would this be better off....

week 1-50mg winny p/d 100mg test prop 125mg test cyp 70 mg tren ace
week 2-50mg winny p/d 200mg test prop 250mg test cyp 140mg tren ace
week 3-6 200mg test prop 500 mg test cyp 140 tren ace
week 7-10 50mg winny p/d
or should i go hit the research up hah

[theboss]

it would be better to research AAS before using what you have.....you obviously dont know enough to use this stuff. I waited until I was mid 30's and read about it for 6months or more before I touched anything.

lets talk about your diet....please post up what the average days food intake looks like....
because if its as bad as the cycle you wanted to take some dietary changes might get you growing.......

[Shortdave]

How tall are you? How much do you weigh? How old are you? What numbers do you put up in the big 4(bench, squat, dead, overhead press)? What is your bf%? What is your ultimate goal? What does your diet look like right now? What will it look like while you are on?

[C-money]

would this be better off....

week 1-50mg winny p/d 100mg test prop 125mg test cyp 70 mg tren ace
week 2-50mg winny p/d 200mg test prop 250mg test cyp 140mg tren ace
week 3-6 200mg test prop 500 mg test cyp 140 tren ace
week 7-10 50mg winny p/d
or should i go hit the research up hah

Still to much winny bro.. youre gonna feel like an old man.. for an oral, 6-8 weeks of dbol/tbol/drol/var are all better options imo

[GYMBRAT]

x2

[JonnyO]

Keep it simple until you understand fully how to put together a cycle. I'd say wait until then before starting but doesnt look like thats going to happen so I would just get some test cyp or enth and run that for now, 500mg a week or so. 10-12 weeks. Get some HCG, Clomid and Aromasin or Nolva for PCT.

[DRAPE09]

5'10'' 185 pounds 22 yrs old ,, max... bench 240lb... deadlift 315lb...Squat 275lb... overhead 160lb, not 100% sure of my body fat would assume around 10% tho. diet is 6 meals a day approx 300grms protien... i vary red meat chicken breasts eggs and potatoes, take greens several different kinds of protien, hemp, whey, isolate...my goal is to gain 15 lbs lean muscle

[Shortdave]

Cool, can you be more specific on your diet?

[DRAPE09]

sure but im not to specific on my diet myself, but i rarely cheat..... this would be an average day

meal 1 - 5 whole eggs approx 200gms ham
meal 2 - 40gm shake
meal 3 - 2 whole chicken breast one potatoe dry cottage cheese
meal 4 - 40gm shake
meal 5 - 8oz red meat greens
meal 6 - 40gm shake fruit

[Shortdave]

I would look into a carb cycling bulk, it is not my specialty but I am sure that somebody on here can shed some light on it and if nobody can I will continue my research on it and help you out with a plan.

[Praetorian]

would this be better off....

week 1-50mg winny p/d 100mg test prop 125mg test cyp 70 mg tren ace
week 2-50mg winny p/d 200mg test prop 250mg test cyp 140mg tren ace
week 3-6 200mg test prop 500 mg test cyp 140 tren ace
week 7-10 50mg winny p/d
or should i go hit the research up hah

Plain and simple....RESEARCH!!
P

[tex]

bulking+winny=fail
all you need is 500mg test e or c for 12-16 weeks.....

[tiramisu]

train wreck.

take those vials put them in the back of a box and leave them there - they make no sense at all
you've never used aas before and should start with 1 compound - testosterone e or c, in a moderate to low dosage 250-500mg for 12 weeks.
once you know how your body reacts you can think about adding more or a second compound to the testosterone.

nolvadex 40/40/20/20 as pct