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Memo
18-10-2009, 12:22 AM
Would it be a problem to inject test E every 5 days to avoid excessive scar tissue? Ive been researching a lot, and the half-life varies a lot. Would the blood level stay pretty stable?

MMASTAR
18-10-2009, 12:40 AM
cyp is a little longer ester and is not uncommon to pin once a week..

#8
18-10-2009, 12:47 AM
i dont think it matters that much.

rob66679
18-10-2009, 01:08 AM
Would it be a problem to inject test E every 5 days to avoid excessive scar tissue? Ive been researching a lot, and the half-life varies a lot. Would the blood level stay pretty stable?

Thats kinda pushin it..... You'd def be on a roller coaster. After 5 days your levels would be crashing.

C's a longer half life.... But I don't think scar tissue would really be an issue. Theres guys on here pinning every day during their cycles. Just rotate your injection sites if its a big worry.

You say the half life of Test E varies? Interesting......

Memo
18-10-2009, 01:10 AM
Thats kinda pushin it..... You'd def be on a roller coaster. After 5 days your levels would be crashing.

C's a longer half life.... But I don't think scar tissue would really be an issue. Theres guys on here pinning every day during their cycles. Just rotate your injection sites if its a big worry.

You say the half life of Test E varies? Interesting......
It varies from person to person. Health & Weight are major factors. So about every 4 days, like Monday-Friday-Tuesday-Saturday-Wednesday.

Memo
18-10-2009, 01:21 AM
Testosterone enanthate is one of the main forms of testosterone prescribed in the United States. It is a slow-acting ester with a release time between 8-10 days.

this is from MESO RX, should I trust this source?

PdH
18-10-2009, 01:27 AM
If you have concerns then pin it twice a week with a 25 g. EOD is better but twice a week is the minimum to keep levels relatively stable.

tiramisu
18-10-2009, 01:31 AM
The common use is to inject at approximately 50% of the release time on the fairly poor theory that this will provide even blood levels. Despite the silliness of this bro science injecting test-e every 4-5 days has worked fine for many many people.

I on the other hand inject enanthate daily along with my tren at the moment. Reduction of scar tissue is hopefully achieved by using 8 injections sites and a 25 gauge needle.

PdH
18-10-2009, 01:35 AM
Every 4 -5 days will work fine to make gains, but there is a difference in regard to sides. The more stable the levels, the less sides one encounters. There is an obvious correlation using simple trial and error. Double-blind studies and blood tests aren't needed to confirm what is readily evident time and time again.

Memo
18-10-2009, 01:51 AM
http://www.warriorfx.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/frontloadchart.gif

#8
18-10-2009, 02:09 AM
^^ that is a brilliant chart for a first timer to see and understand how a front load works, and how blood levels are achieved.

wicked find on that dude.

:)

tiramisu
18-10-2009, 03:22 AM
I personally liike the PCT Calculator because you can enter your specific stack and see both daily blood levels and pct timing.

http://pct.befit4free.net/index.php

PdH
18-10-2009, 12:10 PM
I personally liike the PCT Calculator because you can enter your specific stack and see both daily blood levels and pct timing.http://pct.befit4free.net/index.php

Good calculator. I think I'll be bookmarking that. I'm also wondering about the 'legal' products they recommend, particularly the epistane, which is obviously there for its anti-E qualities. What do you guys think about utilizing this in PCT? Anyone come across any literature that supports its use? Doesn't the manufacturer recommend using PCT for epistane use?

Sure would be nice to find something that works and doesn't make you feel like shit (nolva/clomid)

GYMBRAT
18-10-2009, 12:21 PM
you can get away with once a wk injects with Enan or Cyp without ever having an issue whatsoever

ryankely
18-10-2009, 12:32 PM
you can get away with once a wk injects with Enan or Cyp without ever having an issue whatsoever

yes,has been done like this for 50 years .just the last 10 years or so have people been "tweaking it"

GYMBRAT
18-10-2009, 12:35 PM
yes,has been done like this for 50 years .just the last 10 years or so have people been "tweaking it"

exactly, I'm not against change by no means, but I just don't like having to poke any more than I have to :confused:

nitrous
18-10-2009, 03:07 PM
injecting only twice a week is nothing... delts, lats, and glutes are easy.. that gives you 6 injection sites.. you could inject every other day and still have almost 2 weeks in between hitting the same injection site..

it would be nice to see some studies to see with different gauge sizes and injection frequencies how much scar tissue is created

Praetorian
18-10-2009, 03:10 PM
EOD is ideal for the most stable blood levels. Twice a week is ok and works but you will see more sides.
P

GYMBRAT
18-10-2009, 03:23 PM
EOD is ideal for the most stable blood levels. Twice a week is ok and works but you will see more sides.
P

did some reading and makes sense.....thanks Prae