Back to the basics

[MUSTANG_18]

Hey guys! It's that time of the year again and I'm ready to start packin on that winter beef. The new cycle begins and I'm hoping to pack on a good 15-20lbs after all is said and done. Have a look
D-Bol at 60mg/Day for weeks 1-6
Test Enanthate at 1200mg/Week for weeks 1-12
Deca at 600mg/Week for weeks 1-11
Anastrozole will be run through out at 1mg/Day until PCT is finished.
Clomid will be used post cycle.
Glucorrell R, Milk Thistle, Primerose oil will be used to help keep the liver nice and healthy and Sesapure will be used along with Flax, omega 3's, co q10 to keep the Lipid profile down.
Gear of choice will all be xxx (new canadian lab with a solid line of products and quality is top notch)
Diet will be about 4500-5000 cals a day. Coming from Chicken, red meat, turkey, deer, eggs, whole milk, brown rice, yams, oatmeal, fruit ect...all the good stuff Let me know what ya'll think

M18

[Mr.Freeze]

i would start with deca from week 1-16 and start your d-bol and test.enenth from week 5-16, because by the time youd deca will hit full force around week 10 you will have two weeks left to go!you see were im getting at?

[MUSTANG_18]

i would start with deca from week 1-16 and start your d-bol and test.enenth from week 5-16, because by the time youd deca will hit full force around week 10 you will have two weeks left to go!you see were im getting at?

I see what you mean but for me personally, it would be a waste. My gains slow dramatically after about week 8-9 so instead of runing longer cycles I'll probly switch up the compounds.

M18

[LeanSize]

Honestly, what benefit does the deca have when you take it with test and dbol? Is it to help the tendons and appetite or something else?

[Mr.Freeze]

DECA causes the muscle cell to store more nitrogen than it releases so that a positive nitrogen balance is achieved.In other word your muscle assimilates more proteins!

[LeanSize]

DECA causes the muscle cell to store more nitrogen than it releases so that a positive nitrogen balance is achieved.In other word your muscle assimilates more proteins!

A positive nitrogen balance is also achieved with test and dbol though. I dont see what adding deca really does.

I do know alot of guys that really like deca, but I have never used it.

[Mr.Freeze]

A positive nitrogen balance is also achieved with test and dbol though. I dont see what adding deca really does.

I do know alot of guys that really like deca, but I have never used it.

yes but the more nitrogen the muscle holds the more protein the muscle stores.

[LeanSize]

yes but the more nitrogen the muscle holds the more protein the muscle stores.

So then you can do the same thing by upping the test instead of adding deca right?

[robin]

upping the test. is not the way to go! all kind of side affect could occure!

[liquidfire]

Have you started the cycle yet? That's a pretty heavy cycle! How many have you done before? What are your stats?

I'm not setting up to flame you or anything... Just curious. Also, if you started how ya doing so far?

[MUSTANG_18]

Have you started the cycle yet? That's a pretty heavy cycle! How many have you done before? What are your stats?

I'm not setting up to flame you or anything... Just curious. Also, if you started how ya doing so far?

I've done 10+ cycles and I am 6'1" 245 as of today. Bf is about 12-14%. I have been on this cycle a week now and am up 7lbs so far.

M18

[liquidfire]

I've done 10+ cycles and I am 6'1" 245 as of today. Bf is about 12-14%. I have been on this cycle a week now and am up 7lbs so far.

M18

Nice! That's pretty lean for 245lbs! How much do you hope to gain/retain by the end of this cycle and PCT?

Do you compete?

[MUSTANG_18]

Nice! That's pretty lean for 245lbs! How much do you hope to gain/retain by the end of this cycle and PCT?

Do you compete?


I hope to have gained a solid 20lbs from this cycle once all is said and done. I do not compete. I honestly don't think I have the structure for it, not to mention the time and effort it takes to get into competition shape. With work and school I'm just to busy.

M18

[liquidfire]

I hope to have gained a solid 20lbs from this cycle once all is said and done. I do not compete. I honestly don't think I have the structure for it, not to mention the time and effort it takes to get into competition shape. With work and school I'm just to busy.

M18

Fair enough... You gonna post up some before and after pics when you're done?

[MUSTANG_18]

Probly not of this one. I plan to post some up mid cycle during my spring/summer "cut" cycle.

M18