Safe-mail

[Baconbits]

Any body know anything about this:

"be warned Safe-mail.net given DEA universal pass code so we cant email to there"

[srt8]

Umm, mind putting forth a lil more info......
That lil comment there could start the biggest wildfire of panic

[Baconbits]

It's from a source at anabolex.com

[BolicPower]

I do not know of this, but i IF DEA wants your email i'm sure they can intercept.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

hmmmmm.....

[MuSuLPhReAk]

I guess if one really wants to be secure, they must learn to use pgp on their computers. No 3rd party email system is reliable. I guess at this point, if one were using safe-mail.net, it might be time to move soon. If you want to rely on a 3rd party for anonymity, you will have to move around or LE will catch up to you.

[srt8]

prety sure i wanna lite you on fire Bacon bits
link us at the very least por favor :)

[Durk]

what was that japanese one others were talking about?

[srt8]

oh a source told u not a post.....

[Durk]

Couldnt see why not Isralie + dea. Why not they might think terrorists could be using it.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

PGP
PGP
PGP
PGP

There is no other 100% secure way but PGP. Encrypt the message on your computer then email it. The only other person that can open it is the one you provided the key to.

Still free just a little more work needed to get set up. If anyone has a good tutorial they should post it.



Privacy is a right, not a privilage.

[Mr.Freeze]

well said!:)

[Baconbits]

prety sure i wanna lite you on fire Bacon bits
link us at the very least por favor :)


I don't think I can give you the link, but if you go to anabolex.com and look up one of their board sponsors (based in China). You will see what I mean.

[srt8]

http://www.mccune.cc/PGPpage2.htm

There's a tutorial.
I did a lil diggin and im reading from others about this as well. Still nothing i've seen confirmed.

[srt8]

It's on Ip's site but nothing really other then that i can find.

[Baconbits]

http://www.mccune.cc/PGPpage2.htm

There's a tutorial.
I did a lil diggin and im reading from others about this as well. Still nothing i've seen confirmed.

reps given for the link, Thanks!

[Mr.Freeze]

wow! with that flag its a nice start.:cool:

[bottleneckblooz]

Personally, I think it's better if not everybody is using the same email system. Think about it. If everyone is using the same service, then LE only has to force that ONE provider to cooperate. If everone is using a different provider, then LE has to chase a bunch of different providers, which would be a lot more work for them.

The only trick is to make them compatible with each other.

I'm not even sure if it's a good idea to be posting publicly which ones we're using.

[MuSuLPhReAk]

Problem is if you are not using the same email system that encrypts messages, LE need only intercept your data travelling across the internet to read it. It's really not that hard to do. If you were sitting on a network I had full access to, I can read emails you are receiving and sending (if not encrypted) and the same things with chat programs like msn messenger, icq, aim, etc. Think of the internet as a super network. Don't forget project Carnivore and other similar programs out there that can read everything on the internet and perform actions based on keywords. Only encryption will stop this. Better yet is a retarded email host that keeps archives of all your emails. Some of them even keep them after you delete them from your email account. Great no? Only way is to have that message encrypted that can't be cracked. No back doors like hushmail. Fuggin retards shot themselves in the foot by making a backdoor. It made their system moot as soon as they did that.

...brought to you by your friendly anti-hushmail admin....

[Strateg0s]

PGP
PGP
PGP
PGP

There is no other 100% secure way but PGP. Encrypt the message on your computer then email it. The only other person that can open it is the one you provided the key to.

Still free just a little more work needed to get set up. If anyone has a good tutorial they should post it.



Privacy is a right, not a privilage.
OK, I'll start a new post with the tutorial I wrote.

[tarnow]

http://www.mccune.cc/PGPpage2.htm

Got this guide to PGP of another board. I haven't read through the whole thing yet but it seems like a pretty good guide.

[Strateg0s]

PGP only encrypts to someone who has given out a public key (which encrypts), so yes, both people need to be using it to have a two way conversation.

[St]

Shit i know a guy very well that works for Canadian intel and said you know there are so many HotMail accounts out there at that we can find the time to read them,better of with hotmail or a yahoo,if not open e-mail accounts and change them all the time.

[Strateg0s]

Haha, got it. Don't I know it :p


just a bit confused on which keys we give to eachother, and how we do this, and how messages are shared, still via safe-mail for example?You give your PUBLIC key to your friends. This lets them encrypt a message that only you (owner of the PRIVATE/SECRET key) to decrypt. Once it's encrypted, they can't decrypt it using the same key that they used to encrypt it.

[Big D]

I have a question, how do you send your friend that key, thru an email ? if LE is watching your email then they have the key also ???

[Strateg0s]

I have a question, how do you send your friend that key, thru an email ? if LE is watching your email then they have the key also ???
The two-key system of GPG (and of PGP) works like I explained it in the tutorial: the public key ONLY allows a message to be ENCRYPTED. So it doesn't matter if everyone on earth has your public key. Only the person with the private or secret key can decrypt and read the content of the message. -- It is like you mail out a box which anyone can put anything into, but once they close it, nobody can open it except you.

[Mr.Freeze]

yeah but how do you send the secret key to THAT guy for him to decrypt and read the content of the message??

[Strateg0s]

yeah but how do you send the secret key to THAT guy for him to decrypt and read the content of the message??You don't. You never send secret keys anywhere.

He sends you HIS public key (think of this like a lock, he sends you a type of lock). You use this key to seal up your message. They you send it to him, and he can open it using HIS secret key. No one else can open it.

If he wants to send you a message, you first have to give him YOUR public key. Then he can lock up messages and send them to you. Only you've got the key (your secret key) to open it.

At no point do you ever send your secret key out anywhere. In fact, if you are really paranoid, when you're not using it your secret key to decrypt messages written to you, it is best to keep your keyring file encrypted.

[Mr.Freeze]

oh! now i get it!:cool:

[tarnow]

I'm surprised that PGP is still not standard with most sources. If the sources made it mandatory I'm sure everybody would learn real quick.

[thecut]

bump good info

[bigben]

That's pretty cool.

[piller01]

i finally got it man that was easy once i figured it out...now to test it