next cycle thoughts.....

[theboss]

if i was one who used AAS i have a couple options for this winter........currently 245lbs @ 6'4" approx 13%..going to leave the TNT for summer months..although i am not looking to get FAT now. (I have never tried Deca)
opinions please.......

1-15 = 4cc Equitest (1g TestE/800mg EQ)
4-8 = Dbol 40mg ED
13-17 = 50mg winny caps ED

or

1-14 = 3cc T400 (1200mg total)
1-10 = 2cc Deca (600mg total)
4-8 = Dbol 40mg ED

HCG starting half way through cycle 500iu 2x week
PCT - Clomid/Nolva

[nitrous]

i like the first option but definitely take out the winny.. if you want more orals i would run the dbol weeks 1-4 and then again 10-14 or something like that.. but if it effects your appetite at all it isnt worth having in at all..

the second looks pretty good too but like you said i've never tried deca either..

[GYMBRAT]

I like both and I can't give you a straight up answer, lol sorry bro :)

[PdH]

#2. Try the Deca Bro, it kicks. Better gains than EQ with few sides apart from the relatively hard shutdown. You won't have any Deca dick problems with your T level, and your PCT will bring the boys back well enough. I would suggest you run it for 12 though. That last 2 weeks will make a difference. :)

[theboss]

I like both and I can't give you a straight up answer, lol sorry bro :)

thanks for your honesty! hahah

[theboss]

so how about this....if i go deca...

1-14 = 3cc T400 (1200mg total)
1-12 = 2cc Deca (600mg total)
4-8 = Dbol 40mg ED
12-16 = Dbol 40mg ED

[GYMBRAT]

yeah shit sorry bro ha, after thinking on it more I think I'd try the 2nd one just to see how you react to the deca, you may be happily amazed right :)

[theboss]

yeah shit sorry bro ha, after thinking on it more I think I'd try the 2nd one just to see how you react to the deca, you may be happily amazed right :)

i enjoy amazement from time to time.

[ironwill]

I would go with #2.....Im doing that cycle right now basically on a smaller scale ...
Im doing 600 mg test e, with 300 mg npp, and at week 5 i just added dbol @ 20 mg/day, i love it.....Up 25 lbs so far and not much fat or water, obviously some as im not a freak yet,,,lol....Typically i never run an antie unless reqd, this time im taking aromasin @ 12.5 mg/day, or eod depends if i forget to take it, it seems to be helping with bloat big time while not hindering strength or size gains....
Good luck, keep us posted bro...

[theboss]

I would go with #2.....Im doing that cycle right now basically on a smaller scale ...
Im doing 600 mg test e, with 300 mg npp, and at week 5 i just added dbol @ 20 mg/day, i love it.....Up 25 lbs so far and not much fat or water, obviously some as im not a freak yet,,,lol....Typically i never run an antie unless reqd, this time im taking aromasin @ 12.5 mg/day, or eod depends if i forget to take it, it seems to be helping with bloat big time while not hindering strength or size gains....
Good luck, keep us posted bro...

up 25lb..nice!
i dont run antie either.

[GYMBRAT]

i enjoy amazement from time to time.

haha I hear ya bro!!

[PdH]

so how about this....if i go deca...

1-14 = 3cc T400 (1200mg total)
1-12 = 2cc Deca (600mg total)
4-8 = Dbol 40mg ED
12-16 = Dbol 40mg ED

Looks good to me Bro. I personally wouldn't use the second run of Dbol, but you know your body. If you choose this cycle, you will enjoy it. :)

[theboss]

Looks good to me Bro. I personally wouldn't use the second run of Dbol, but you know your body. If you choose this cycle, you will enjoy it. :)

so tell me (a TNT lover)...what Deca is like in this cycle...
not sure I will use the Dbol the 2nd time in the cycle..but its an option

[Redz]

I`m curious about deca too myself but tren is just so amazing.

[PdH]

Never used Tren so I can't give a comparison. I have a real aversion to sides, so I stick with Test, Deca, EQ, and short runs of Dbol on occasion. In regard to what to expect, no anger issues, no acne issues, very limited bloat, and I've never had Deca dick or Deca induced gyno. Now for the good stuff. Great sense of well being, good appetite, steady strength and size gains, a significant increase in endurance, relief from joint issues, and the ability to maintain the majority of gains (I've only lost 6 pounds since my last cycle and I had hernia surgery 6 weeks ago. Been back in the gym using light machine exercises only for about 3 weeks). I love test/deca cycles.

[ironwill]

Never used Tren so I can't give a comparison. I have a real aversion to sides, so I stick with Test, Deca, EQ, and short runs of Dbol on occasion. In regard to what to expect, no anger issues, no acne issues, very limited bloat, and I've never had Deca dick or Deca induced gyno. Now for the good stuff. Great sense of well being, good appetite, steady strength and size gains, a significant increase in endurance, relief from joint issues, and the ability to maintain the majority of gains (I've only lost 6 pounds since my last cycle and I had hernia surgery 6 weeks ago. Been back in the gym using light machine exercises only for about 3 weeks). I love test/deca cycles.

agreed totally........the sides are great on test, npp, or deca cycles....the gains are sick......

[MikeyFXD35]

Why not take the Dbol right at the start so you can give your body a 6 week break before ending with it but I would end with Anavar myself to help keep the gains.

[Damonic]

My next cycle is like yours sort of. Im doing

Test C 1250 for 12 weeks
Deca 750 for 12 eeks
Drol 100mg a day for 25 days
or 75mg a day for 33.3 days lol

Ive never done a deca cycle so Im excited.

[gicantor]

I like option 1 better boss, but thats just me

[GYMBRAT]

My next cycle is like yours sort of. Im doing

Test C 1250 for 12 weeks
Deca 750 for 12 eeks
Drol 100mg a day for 25 days
or 75mg a day for 33.3 days lol

Ive never done a deca cycle so Im excited.

what's your stats and past cycle exp Damonic?

[pseclint]

i like the first one as well

[Damonic]

what's your stats and past cycle exp Damonic?

Ive been training for 9 years seriously. Kinda ****ed around for 4 years before that training off and on. Cycle wise Ive done a few year long ones, a few 12 weekers, a few 6 weekers lol. My last cycle I was on while leaning out was 18 weeks of 1g of test and 450 eq and 300 tren. I only ran the tren for 12 weeks then did 50mg winny ed for 6 weeks. I also ran 3iu a day of kefei for 4months. Right now I weight 225ish and my bf is around 10%. Im 6'3" . This bulker I hope to gain 30 pounds and hopefully I can keep 15 of it.

[GYMBRAT]

Ive been training for 9 years seriously. Kinda ****ed around for 4 years before that training off and on. Cycle wise Ive done a few year long ones, a few 12 weekers, a few 6 weekers lol. My last cycle I was on while leaning out was 18 weeks of 1g of test and 450 eq and 300 tren. I only ran the tren for 12 weeks then did 50mg winny ed for 6 weeks. I also ran 3iu a day of kefei for 4months. Right now I weight 225ish and my bf is around 10%. Im 6'3" . This bulker I hope to gain 30 pounds and hopefully I can keep 15 of it.

sounds cool bro good luck and happy gaining! So how did the dosage of EQ @ 450mgs turn out, I'm contemplating running it at 400 wk with 500mgs wk test e?

[Damonic]

Personally I love eq. Helped me to get really vascular. Imo it needs to be run for at least 16 weeks. Id say 500 test and 400 eq will do nicely for u.

[GYMBRAT]

Personally I love eq. Helped me to get really vascular. Imo it needs to be run for at least 16 weeks. Id say 500 test and 400 eq will do nicely for u.

yeah I agree with the longer with EQ the better, this ones a 20 wk cycle so I should be good to go, thanks for your input bro.

[Solo59]

Option one sounds great (but w/o the joint-drying winnie). The above gents should note that EQ needs to be run at least at 600 mg EW for full effect. I'll be running EquiTest too, so I'm hoping to get an early report on it.

Of course, TB, if you're going for full bulk, option two is the better one.

Report back, eh?

Solo

[GYMBRAT]

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[GYMBRAT]

The above gents should note that EQ needs to be run at least at 600 mg EW for full effect. Solo

any particular reason?

[PdH]

EQ needs to be run at least at 600 mg EW for full effect.

That seems to be the prevailing belief among many, though I don't know if that is necessarily true for everyone. The high end recommended dose for a 1000 lb horse is 500 mg every two weeks.

[theboss]

Option one sounds great (but w/o the joint-drying winnie). The above gents should note that EQ needs to be run at least at 600 mg EW for full effect. I'll be running EquiTest too, so I'm hoping to get an early report on it.

Of course, TB, if you're going for full bulk, option two is the better one.

Report back, eh?

Solo

i dont experience the joint issues with winny.

[theboss]

was just thinking...anyone use deca & EQ together?

1-15 = 4cc Equitest (1g TestE/800mg EQ)
1-10 = 2cc Deca (600mg total)
4-11 = Dbol 40mg ED (maybe not that long, depends on how i feel)

HCG starting half way through cycle 500iu 2x week
PCT - Clomid/Nolva

[GYMBRAT]

never tried it myself but have known ppl that have and complained even on high dosages of HCG about the shut down from runnin them together, let alone the shut down just with the deca.

[theboss]

thanks...definatley something to think about.

[GYMBRAT]

no worries boss man, I would love to run it myself, guessing other than the deca dick etc it would prob be the shiznit huh!!! :)