View Full Version : Prostate protection during/after cycle?
kloan
15-10-2009, 07:01 AM
Since I'm running 400mg test e (eventually 650mg), 400mg eq and 400mg tren hex per week, should I be taking stuff to protect my prostate?
Is Saw Palmetto strong/effective enough?
Besides an actual prostate exam, is there any way to know if the prostate is being negatively affected?
Baconbits
15-10-2009, 10:27 AM
You will know when your prostate is enlarged....you will have difficulty urinating or urinating frequently....I find that saw palmetto helps me with these issues when I'm on cycle. Also stinging nettle root is another you might want to look into...decreases BPH and lowers SHBG. I haven't tried nettle root yet...but it looks promissing.
Today nettle is recognised as having astringent, expectorant, galactagogue, tonic, anti-inflammatory, hemostatic, and diuretic properties, and is recommended for treating bone and joint conditions, inflammation and irritation of the urinary tract and for preventing urinary system gravel, whilst the diuretic action of the plant has been shown to significantly increase urine volume and can help to alleviate bladder infections. However, the most popular application of stinging nettle today is the use of the root for treating the symptoms of prostate enlargement or benign prostate hyperplasia (BPH). This condition is hormonal in nature, caused by testosterone and the conversion of testosterone to the extremely potent dihydrotestosterone, a conversion which increases as men age. An excess of dihydrotestosterone causes pathological prostate growth. Estrogens also play a part as they too increase as men age and also stimulate prostate growth. These hormones travel around the body in a free state, as well as bound to proteins. One such protein is called sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG) and its role is to maintain a dynamic hormonal balance in the body. SHBG binds or attaches to hormones and carries them to different receptor sites on cell membranes throughout the body where they can be utilised in different ways. The effect it has depends on which hormone it binds to and which receptor site it is carried to. In the men estrogen and dihydrotestosterone bound to SHBG are usually carried to the receptor sites on the prostate gland, and once there in excessive amounts it stimulates prostate tissue cells to divide and grow rapidly - resulting in BPH.
Some of the more recent research on BPH and stinging nettle indicates that the nettle root can interfere with or block a number these hormone-related chemical processes in the body that are implicated in the development of BPH. In clinical research, nettle has demonstrated the ability to stop the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (by inhibiting aromatase, an enzyme required for the conversion), as well as to directly bind to SHBG itself - thereby preventing SHBG from binding to other hormones. Other research also reveals that nettles can prevent SHBG that has already bound to a hormone from attaching to the receptor sites on the prostate, as well as to decrease the production of estrogens (estradiol and estrone) by inhibiting an enzyme required for their production. In summary, most of the intercellular processes required to trigger the prostate to grow new cells and enlarge seems to be inhibited by nettle root. Human and animal clinical studies have confirmed these effects and also demonstrated that nettle root works as well as the drug finasteride which is prescribed for BPH and is also better tolerated than the drug.
The effect of nettle root on dihydrotestosterone (DHT) levels has also made it a treatment for hair loss, as male pattern balding has often been linked to an excess of DHT, as has hair loss in women too. In folklore it was always believed that nettles were an effective treatment for baldness and modern science appears to validate this belief. Nettle root is also valuable as a source of lignans, a type of phytoestrogens, which have become more and more valued in recent years, and which accounts for its galactogogue property. Nettle root also contains a number of chemical compounds which appear to significantly stimulate the immune system.
theboss
15-10-2009, 10:32 AM
i experienced the frequent urination.....its a pain getting up at night so often....but it went away.
Mr Ontario
15-10-2009, 11:20 AM
Proscar 1/4 tab a day is known to help protect the prostate :) That or have your boyfriend rub it :)
Cranberry Juice and Red fruit in general help to curb prostate enlargement.
YYZgeddylee
15-10-2009, 12:00 PM
Proscar 1/4 tab a day is known to help protect the prostate :) That or have your boyfriend rub it :)
LMAO :laugh
theboss
15-10-2009, 12:10 PM
Proscar 1/4 tab a day is known to help protect the prostate :) That or have your boyfriend rub it :)
easy now....some members might have a freak out for you saying something like that.
mr. o will be happy to assist you with all of your prostate milking needs......
kloan
15-10-2009, 05:05 PM
....... That or have your boyfriend rub it :)
What, and cause a jealous rift between you and me? No way am I doing that again... I can't stand to see you cry.
MikeyFXD35
15-10-2009, 10:14 PM
Things just keep getting weirder
GYMBRAT
15-10-2009, 10:43 PM
LOL gotta laugh...MrO is as goofy as they come LOL
Mr Ontario
15-10-2009, 11:15 PM
Just keeping it real :)
LOL gotta laugh...MrO is as goofy as they come LOL
tiramisu
15-10-2009, 11:18 PM
A couple of the studies that I have read are tracing high estrogen levels rather than testosterone levels to prostate issues.
Using an aromasin or arimidex while on cycle to keep estrogen under control may very well reduce your risk of prostate issues.
Big D
16-10-2009, 12:02 AM
Mr.O do you have a video, for milking the prostate ?
musclehead123
16-10-2009, 01:31 AM
i experienced the frequent urination.....its a pain getting up at night so often....but it went away.
So the prostate will go back to normal size when a person is off cycle? Or at least decrease in size compared to being on cycle?
So the prostate will go back to normal size when a person is off cycle? Or at least decrease in size compared to being on cycle?
yes, if there are no problems.....that doesnt give you an excuse to keep getting prostate massages from ppl you pick up off the street....
Mr.O do you have a video, for milking the prostate ?
bump for mr. o's instructional dvd....
ultrasafe
16-10-2009, 11:22 AM
I have been reading some cool updated medical books and all modern Dr's that are switched on believe in this:
"Dr. Morgentaler recounts how it takes years, even decades, to correct a medical myth. Inthis case, the medical establishment's misconception about testosterone and prostate cancer has condemned millions of aging men to suffer degenerative diseases caused by testosterone deficiency.
Until just a few years ago, it was almost universally believed that testosterone therapy would lead to some degree of increased risk of prostate cancer. During that time testosterone therapy was seen to represent the proverbial pact with the devil, by trading short-term sexual and physical rewards for the ultimate development of a malignant cancer. Fortunately, this belief has been shown to be incorrect, and medical opinion has begun to shift quite dramatically, with good evidence that testosterone therapy is quite safe for the prostate. There is even now a growing concern that low testosterone is a risk for prostate cancer rather than high testosterone."
manfreakca
16-10-2009, 02:04 PM
massage the prostate for sum prostate juice lol lol,hay maybe that will shrink the prostate??
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