Long cycles

[MikeyFXD35]

What is your longest cycle and did you find the effects started to temper off after a certain time period.

[GYMBRAT]

I went for a full yr a # of yrs ago with great success but it did start to taper off if I can remember correctly after around the 8-9th mth to some degree.

[rated_rko]

my longest was this yr i did a 16 weeker
500 test
400 eq
it wasnt to bad i leveled off after a while...now im just waiting for 2010 to start up a bulk

[manfreakca]

i think for myself anyway the longer u on the better u gonna start lookin,but u have to keep switching AS products

[gicantor]

My first cycle was 16 weeks. want to go at least 20 this time around.

[MikeyFXD35]

My first cycle was 16 weeks. want to go at least 20 this time around.

I talking 8 months to a year or more.

[z83]

25weeks last cycle

[GYMBRAT]

but u have to keep switching AS products

exactly, that's the secret alright ;)

[MikeyFXD35]

Thats what I am currently doing. One long cycle but mini cycles within of different supplements

[Praetorian]

16 weeks is about as long as you should go...after that recovery begins to be a problem and your body will actually start looking very tired after awhile...there is no advantage to going longer.
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[MikeyFXD35]

16 weeks is about as long as you should go...after that recovery begins to be a problem and your body will actually start looking very tired after awhile...there is no advantage to going longer.
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When you say recovery are you referring to natural test production? I am on HRT so I will have no break from test e just a lower dose. I would take my dose from 500 to 200/wk but I still will be taking AAS so is it different in this case?

[RagingRandy]

^^^^^^^^ Ditto

[GYMBRAT]

^^^^yup same

[overboost]

longest was 9 months, switched up compounds a few times. just finishing pct and i feel fine, strength is down a bit and my workouts take alot more out of me but cant stay on forever haha. I think the HCG made a huge difference in my recovery. Just starting to plan out my next cycle, it never ends! haha!

[nitrous]

i just finished a 17.5 week cycle.. consided of mostly 500mg test and 600mg eq with periods i ran tbol, and another with dbol..

if i was to redo it i wouldnt have gone as long and i would have changed things up more.. also i'll probably never do tbol again

[GYMBRAT]

what were your gains etc like overboost for your nine mths?

[musclehead123]

i just finished a 17.5 week cycle.. consided of mostly 500mg test and 600mg eq with periods i ran tbol, and another with dbol..

if i was to redo it i wouldnt have gone as long and i would have changed things up more.. also i'll probably never do tbol again

why would u not do tbol again?

[tiramisu]

Longest cycle so far was 20 weeks and it was very productive BUT I have reduced my cycle time to 12 weeks because:

I get really tired of injecting.
I prefer shorter, crisper objectives - my focus to eat, train, grow can only be maintained in spurts.
It's probably a little healthier to allow my body to reach homeostasis regularily so that I don't have to worry as much about hdl. bp, or prostate running out of control.

[Praetorian]

When you say recovery are you referring to natural test production? I am on HRT so I will have no break from test e just a lower dose. I would take my dose from 500 to 200/wk but I still will be taking AAS so is it different in this case?

Not only test but your entire endocrine system as well as liver, cholesterol, thyroid etc All of these are affected. You can be on HRT but not higher doses indefinitely.
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[MikeyFXD35]

When on an HRT dose..debatable as my doctor cant say for sure whats best....wouldn't it be beneficial to add a low dose of Deca as it has shown to be beneficial for cholesterol with no liver effects.

[nitrous]

why would u not do tbol again?

it killed my appetite and didnt see much of a gain from it other than a bigger pump

[Praetorian]

When on an HRT dose..debatable as my doctor cant say for sure whats best....wouldn't it be beneficial to add a low dose of Deca as it has shown to be beneficial for cholesterol with no liver effects.

You can add tamoxifen now and then at 10mg daily to aid in HDL levels. I would not add deca.
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[overboost]

what were your gains etc like overboost for your nine mths?

I will sum it up with one word, epic! haha! Near the end the effects started to taper off and my acne was getting to the point where i couldnt stand it anymore so I knew it was time to come off. Cant wait to get fired up again though!!

[GYMBRAT]

haha, right on bro good to hear!! ^

[Born2Juice4Ever]

I too opt and often side with shorter than 16 to 20 week cycles. Of course I don't always do what I say.

I have done a tremendous amount of online research and I HAVE PROVEN a lot of the theories out there on myself.
Receptor saturation, downgrading and other important elements take place when ever cells are exposed to lengthy usage and to an extend ABUSE of anabolics.



I have done cycles in excess of 32 weeks 2 times in the past.
But most of the cycles average 16-20


B2J

[MikeyFXD35]

I too opt and often side with shorter than 16 to 20 week cycles. Of course I don't always do what I say.

I have done a tremendous amount of online research and I HAVE PROVEN a lot of the theories out there on myself.
Receptor saturation, downgrading and other important elements take place when ever cells are exposed to lengthy usage and to an extend ABUSE of anabolics.



I have done cycles in excess of 32 weeks 2 times in the past.
But most of the cycles average 16-20


B2J

How long to you break for?

[juced_porkchop]

I like longer then shorter maybe adding or swiching a compound.
using somthing to lower SHBG half way threw then to the end.

[j-dub]

i think for myself anyway the longer u on the better u gonna start lookin,but u have to keep switching AS products

this is along my thinking. i've been self doctoring for close to 20 years in total. i started off in my mid twenties with the typical protocol, test of some sort and back then winny was a snap, cycling for 12 weeks and coming off for 12 weeks. no significant changes in my blood work. i have tried higher dose cycles of up to 750mg of test a week, i've also tried d-bol and tren. most of the mexican products in the means of tests, awesome cytoho (sp) sustanon amps from pakistan and even solo runs with test or tren and winny. my blood work was only elevated once and that was when i was on tren solo, tren played with my hdl ldl profiles, which i compensated for with diet. i have done mild dose runs for 2 year stretchs and blood work is always a-ok and the only noticeable side effect i've experienced (other than zits from the high test and d-bol cycles) is a little nut shrinkage, which ain't a bad thing unless you like big droopy ball sacks when you're an old man.
i think high dose regimens stress the body far more than a mild dose and has longer term health risks. unfortunately, today in order to succeed in this sport it requires you to make sacrifices, some of these sacrifices won't be paid until later in life. later in life always gets here faster than you expect.
hormonal therapy has merit, but healthy people don't make hospitals and doctors rich.

[cog]

You can add tamoxifen now and then at 10mg daily to aid in HDL levels. I would not add deca.
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Can you fill us in on the reason for not adding deca?25 mg weekly maybe?

[grader]

10 months, gains kept coming some points slower than others, been off for almost a month now everything seems to be going back to normal, so far i have lost 15 pounds, my strength has stayed the same but my endurance is gone, now i actualy feel like the day is long after a killer workout and a hard days work im exhausted, while was on i could do everything and not feel a thing. im already stocking up for my next cycle it wont be as long im thinking around the lines of 3-4 months but more of everyhing, im thinking 1000mg of test cyp per week along with some tren maybe some winni, summers coming!

[j-dub]

10 months, gains kept coming some points slower than others, been off for almost a month now everything seems to be going back to normal, so far i have lost 15 pounds, my strength has stayed the same but my endurance is gone, now i actualy feel like the day is long after a killer workout and a hard days work im exhausted, while was on i could do everything and not feel a thing. im already stocking up for my next cycle it wont be as long im thinking around the lines of 3-4 months but more of everyhing, im thinking 1000mg of test cyp per week along with some tren maybe some winni, summers coming!

let me get this straight. you were on what/dose for 10 months. if you have only been off one month, everything is not back to normal.
your body is rebounding and compensating for not having the gear in its system, it is running on overdrive likely right now. in a few more weeks you will start to feel more sluggish, and in 2 months you'll be closer to a more natural state (hopefully, and get your blood work done). what you will feel is going to be hard to work through, but it can be done.
sorry if i misunderstood what you said, but i think you need more time off if you are looking to returning to normal homeostasis within, before starting another cycle. the cycle mentioned is solid, you will need good ancillaries for this one in my opinion. good luck.