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varking
11-10-2009, 05:21 PM
Ok guys when I'm on I have little to no gyno when I come off my gyno grows... Is this normal and if so why does it happen???

Praetorian
11-10-2009, 06:33 PM
Ok guys when I'm on I have little to no gyno when I come off my gyno grows... Is this normal and if so why does it happen???

Most likely because when you are on you are converting test to estrogen and are building up estrogen in the blood. Once off you become very estrogen dominant because your natural test levels are still low and you have removed the exogenous androgens thus throwing the balance to estrogen.
Do you use HCG ? Are you using an AI on cycle? with HCG during PCT?
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GYMBRAT
11-10-2009, 06:51 PM
what he said ^ :)

tex
12-10-2009, 05:14 AM
what he said ^ :)
x3

varking
12-10-2009, 08:23 PM
i used aromasin while on and did not use hcg on or pct.....

Praetorian
12-10-2009, 08:44 PM
i used aromasin while on and did not use hcg on or pct.....

What was your cycle and PCT?
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varking
12-10-2009, 09:53 PM
cycle was eq test and tren... 16 weeks

pct was clomid and armoasin 30 days

varking
13-10-2009, 12:20 PM
Bump

Praetorian
13-10-2009, 01:44 PM
cycle was eq test and tren... 16 weeks

pct was clomid and armoasin 30 days

dosages??
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tex
13-10-2009, 03:07 PM
maybe prolactin issues as well.

varking
13-10-2009, 04:07 PM
dosages??
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tren a 50mg ed
test e 500mg per week
eq 500mg per week

KoN
13-10-2009, 05:57 PM
Sounds like prolactin issues to me. The aromasin should have disabled most of the estrogen enzymes so they wouldn't be a problem after the cycle, which leaves the Tren and prolactin-related gyno.

varking
13-10-2009, 07:47 PM
what should I do?? Any tips??

Praetorian
13-10-2009, 08:08 PM
Its debatable whether or not its prolactin...i really doubt it. Tren ace is out of the system very quickly so if it wasnt an issue while on it shouldnt be now.
You can try either caber or nolva. Is your aromasin UG? Ive had clients that had gyno issues and the only thing that helped was nolva.
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varking
13-10-2009, 10:17 PM
Its debatable whether or not its prolactin...i really doubt it. Tren ace is out of the system very quickly so if it wasnt an issue while on it shouldnt be now.
You can try either caber or nolva. Is your aromasin UG? Ive had clients that had gyno issues and the only thing that helped was nolva.
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Yes it was I ran aromasin and caber during cycle

Praetorian
14-10-2009, 05:53 PM
Try 20mg nolva ED for a few weeks...see what happens. It should help alleviate some issues. It wont get rid of gyno entirely...surgery is necessary for that...you need to remove the gland. Another option some try is to crush up halo tabs and mix with DMSO into a paste...then rub the paste on affected area a couple times daily.
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