Lean Mass/ Lacking overall Arm Size

[Shundy]

Im new to this site just looking for some advice on Losing weight without losing size......Im currently 21 , 6'0 and i flucuate constantly between 212-218....I was 235 around a year ago but I find im losing alot of my size when im cutting, is there anyway to stay big but sit around lets say 205 lbs. As well Im having trouble gaining any size in my arms anyone have any suggestions for excerises????

[Mister T 72]

Not sure what your current bicep and tricep routine is but....
stick to the basics
Straight barbell curls,hammer curls,close-grip bench,reverse grip bench etc.You see too many people doing cable curls etc when they should be focusing on the basic mass/strength excercises.And remember,those triceps contribute A LOT to overall arm size and development!!

[GYMBRAT]

x2, and basically just simply keep your diet/exercise in check yr round for the results you are looking for and you'll be on your way. I don't bulk up to overweight proportions anymore
as it just no longer make sense to me. I see a lot of it as 2 steps forward 2 steps back in the end but it is just my opinion :)

[Meowth]

Im new to this site just looking for some advice on Losing weight without losing size......Im currently 21 , 6'0 and i flucuate constantly between 212-218....I was 235 around a year ago but I find im losing alot of my size when im cutting, is there anyway to stay big but sit around lets say 205 lbs. As well Im having trouble gaining any size in my arms anyone have any suggestions for excerises????

for your triceps, give decline skull crushers a shot...that should make them triceps come out to play. again, as already mentioned, hammer curls for the biceps and no cable BS

[tiramisu]

big, 6' and 205lbs are mutually exclusive.
at 5" 4" 8%bf 205 you can be big.
or at 6' 8%bf 250 you can be big (almost, although 260 would be better)

[Danger]

If your losing size while dieting consider adding Glutamine 10g a day, its dirt cheap so I consider it a good investment anytime I am dieting.

[vakker]

big, 6' and 205lbs are mutually exclusive.
at 5" 4" 8%bf 205 you can be big.
or at 6' 8%bf 250 you can be big (almost, although 260 would be better)

was that the smartass way of saying he isnt big?

[Mr Ontario]

Welcome :)

[tiramisu]

was that the smartass way of saying he isnt big?

The OP asked if there was a way of staying big, while cutting down to 205 pounds at 6" and growing his Arms.

I wasn't attempting to be a smart ass but rather pointing out the basics.
He is not going to grow his arms dropping 20 pounds on his frame when he is already underweight.

If he puts a solid 50 pounds of muscle on I can pretty much guarantee his arms will grow 3". They still may not look big because he is 6" so he may have long muscles and still look small with 18" arms unlike a guy who is 5' 4" who with 18" arms is called Lee Priest (plus everything else of course.)

At 250 and fairly lean a 6 footer will look much better than normal people but still not be at the level of holy shit freak. Unless he is attempting to be an "Arm-Builder" rather than a "Body-Builder" which is actually tough unless your arms are naturally large he would be best off putting on 50 pounds of muscle across his whole body and gaining 3 or so inches on his arms doing so.

So the answer to bigger arms in this case is the usual, heavy deadlifts, squats, bench in the context of a program like "starting strength" or "5x5" for a year to 18 months with lots of food.

[vakker]

compare your first reply to him to this reply, then tell me you weren't being a dick.


The OP asked if there was a way of staying big, while cutting down to 205 pounds at 6" and growing his Arms.

I wasn't attempting to be a smart ass but rather pointing out the basics.
He is not going to grow his arms dropping 20 pounds on his frame when he is already underweight.

If he puts a solid 50 pounds of muscle on I can pretty much guarantee his arms will grow 3". They still may not look big because he is 6" so he may have long muscles and still look small with 18" arms unlike a guy who is 5' 4" who with 18" arms is called Lee Priest (plus everything else of course.)

At 250 and fairly lean a 6 footer will look much better than normal people but still not be at the level of holy shit freak. Unless he is attempting to be an "Arm-Builder" rather than a "Body-Builder" which is actually tough unless your arms are naturally large he would be best off putting on 50 pounds of muscle across his whole body and gaining 3 or so inches on his arms doing so.

So the answer to bigger arms in this case is the usual, heavy deadlifts, squats, bench in the context of a program like "starting strength" or "5x5" for a year to 18 months with lots of food.

[GYMBRAT]

:popc

[Shortdave]

The OP asked if there was a way of staying big, while cutting down to 205 pounds at 6" and growing his Arms.

I wasn't attempting to be a smart ass but rather pointing out the basics.
He is not going to grow his arms dropping 20 pounds on his frame when he is already underweight.

If he puts a solid 50 pounds of muscle on I can pretty much guarantee his arms will grow 3". They still may not look big because he is 6" so he may have long muscles and still look small with 18" arms unlike a guy who is 5' 4" who with 18" arms is called Lee Priest (plus everything else of course.)

At 250 and fairly lean a 6 footer will look much better than normal people but still not be at the level of holy shit freak. Unless he is attempting to be an "Arm-Builder" rather than a "Body-Builder" which is actually tough unless your arms are naturally large he would be best off putting on 50 pounds of muscle across his whole body and gaining 3 or so inches on his arms doing so.

So the answer to bigger arms in this case is the usual, heavy deadlifts, squats, bench in the context of a program like "starting strength" or "5x5" for a year to 18 months with lots of food.


I heart you.

To the OP, not to be a dick but Tiramisu is right, 6' and 205 is not big and you won't get really big arms without getting the rest of you big as well.

[tiramisu]

dick not dick, sometimes it's a pain to type a short novel when 10 words provide the same information. It's also sometimes better for the OP to actually think about what he's doing given a clue rather than the whole darn answer. Often we debate the last 1% of diet, training, drugs, recuperation and it's kind of fun but there are some fundamentals to strength training that are not terribly controversial.

Progressive Training - big and basic
Adequate Recovery - sleep is good
Lots of Protein - somewhere between 1 and 2 grams per pound
Adequate Caloric intake - more than maintanance if growing / less if dieting

If you are not succeeding then it is usually the case that one or more of these is being screwed up.

If you are meeting all of these criteria then your first several years of lifting will be successful. Once you reach the point of intermediate/advanced strength athlete or competitive bodybuilder then you will be fussing the last couple of percent and that will take knowledge of programming, nutrition and aas (unless you make the healthier decision to avoid them).

I really enjoy the esoteric elements of this hobby but meatheads have been getting big and strong for many years. It is often analysis paralysis and rathole logic that wastes time and effort. If there was no internet and you had a bunch of heavy weights and wanted to get big and strong I would suggest you would probably lift as heavy as you could and eat a lot. You would probably be tired and get some sleep.

If someone was smart enough to give you a squat rack and leave you alone in your basement for 3 years you would probably come out big and strong.

That's not to say periodization, logbooks, programming, nutrition planning and sticking oil in your ass aren't going to help it's just that frankly they aren't the necessary elements to the solution. The are supplemental to the fundamentals.