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Varlover
10-10-2009, 06:15 PM
Didnt mean to come across as fishing.

KoN
10-10-2009, 06:21 PM
Congratulations.

kloan
10-10-2009, 07:57 PM
What's with the name then?

Ritch
10-10-2009, 08:06 PM
I hear you on this one. The ug scene seems shaky now... Like you I can`t just dump money on stuff I`m not 100% sure of. Not so sure I`m gonna go on again myself.

nisser
10-10-2009, 08:07 PM
:nofishing

kudos for being creative though.

Ritch
10-10-2009, 08:13 PM
:nofishing

kudos for being creative though.

Ha ha ha... I was thinking the same, and was tempted to use that new smilie as well.

theboss
10-10-2009, 08:42 PM
lol

Varlover
10-10-2009, 09:03 PM
Lol, Im not fishing, I dont need to. Just a rant about as said above, the shakiness right now. It sucks especially since I have pretty much wasted money on what I have bought.

As for the name, I love anavar, lol.

GYMBRAT
10-10-2009, 09:04 PM
I'm never gonna stop, I am a ROIDAHOLIC for life haha....plus I have faith in my source, for vitamins that is!

GYMBRAT
10-10-2009, 09:05 PM
Lol, Im not fishing, I dont need to. Just a rant about as said above, the shakiness right now. It sucks especially since I have pretty much wasted money on what I have bought.

As for the name, I love anavar, lol.

I do hear what your saying though bro, one just never knows that's a fact :help

nisser
10-10-2009, 09:08 PM
Lol, Im not fishing, I dont need to. Just a rant about as said above, the shakiness right now. It sucks especially since I have pretty much wasted money on what I have bought.

As for the name, I love anavar, lol.

Who exactly are you fooling buddy? Let me summarize your post:


I got burnt with my current source and would LOVE a reliable source.

kloan
10-10-2009, 09:15 PM
So it's injectables you got, your only experience is with orals, and you're uncertain of the quality of the gear you got.

It's perfectly normal to have doubts, or feel a little uncertain with what you get.. it's an underground market and there are never 100% guarantees. You have to be able to discern the difference between shillers and true feedback, and take a chance. I went with a new source recently, never would have thought twice about it but I took a chance and so far so good. Only my first injection, but it was pain free. Now time will tell if the potency is up to par.

It's always going to be a risk in some way, but it's well worth it if you're looking to get an edge in your sport/hobby. I rather like the rush I get from knowing I'm doing something taboo.

Varlover
10-10-2009, 09:18 PM
Who exactly are you fooling buddy? Let me summarize your post:


I got burnt with my current source and would LOVE a reliable source.

Dude, just **** off, please. I didnt get burnt, I made a small sample order and I got what I paid for in a timely manner and its a well mentioned brand here before the No UGL talk.

Problem is, after reading all the good things about it, I read a bunch of bad things about it as well. I know that success breeds hate and haters will hate bringing people to say ****ed up shit about good products with hopes of sabotaging sales.

I also know that crap products can be pushed to the masses. I will sit on what I have and keep reading reviews, I just feel a bit too tentative to complete the purchases I had planned at the moment.

Varlover
10-10-2009, 09:21 PM
Doesn't make sense. Did you or did you not try the stuff you have? What's with the shakiness if you decided not to use it?

I havent tried the stuff I just received yet. My opinion is solely based on the info that ive been taking in through reading up as much as I can on the different boards. It just that I made the purchase and received the products but am now running into bad reviews on what I decided to go with. It seems that you can find a decent balance of good and bad reviews out there for just about any name you can mention.

kloan
10-10-2009, 09:22 PM
Go ahead and try it. It's not going to kill you.. it's either going to be great or it isn't. You've got a sample to test out and if you like it you can get more to continue...

kloan
10-10-2009, 09:24 PM
I havent tried the stuff I just received yet. My opinion is solely based on the info that ive been taking in through reading up as much as I can on the different boards. It just that I made the purchase and received the products but am now running into bad reviews on what I decided to go with. It seems that you can find a decent balance of good and bad reviews out there for just about any name you can mention.
Hehe, you quoted me before I got a chance to edit....

What sort of negative things have you heard about what you have? You can say without getting into lab names. They could be legitimate complaints, shit does happen, more often than it should.

GYMBRAT
10-10-2009, 09:30 PM
yeah man I've heard soooo much crap about this lab that lab and 9 times out of 10 depends on who it's coming from is BULLSHIT, I've personally used "crap" and had the best results ever, so it all depends of course on who ya trust and who it's coming from :)

Varlover
10-10-2009, 09:31 PM
Unevenly filled vials, particles(sediment?) in oils, people getting infections (I know this can be stupidity on an individual basis), overly painful injections, people taking 50mgs a day of dbol for weeks and feeling nothing, serms not working. It just seems to be the same with every lab, people will say good things about it and people will call them shills, people give a bad review and their trying to sabotage the other lab. I know that things get cut throat when money is involved and people will go to great lengths to harm the competition, it just sucks on the consumer level because of the doubts it creates.

GYMBRAT
10-10-2009, 09:34 PM
sounds brain dead I know but ya just gotta try it......damn that sounds stupid lol it's like saying ..go ahead run through that mine field and see what happens :(

Varlover
10-10-2009, 09:37 PM
Lmao, I know right? Ive got the roided out angel on my left shoulder saying "SLAM IT BACK PUSSY!" and the angel with the long coat and stethoscope on the other saying "This sounds like a bad idea."

GYMBRAT
10-10-2009, 09:41 PM
LOL yes it does fosho!!!!!! I'm bad cause I would make an awesome human lab rat LOL

Mr Ontario
10-10-2009, 10:11 PM
Thanks for letting us all know :)

GYMBRAT
10-10-2009, 11:28 PM
:)

kloan
10-10-2009, 11:36 PM
Are your vials underfilled or unevenly filled, or do they have particles floating in them?

If not, I say go for it. The absolute VERY WORST that could happen is 5 days later you start to feel some pain, you get a fever, you go to the doctor and you get some antibiotics for the infection and throw the rest out.

Just remember people 9/10 are overreacting and are being way too paranoid when it comes to 'infections'. You don't get an infection the next day, yet I've lost count how many times I've seen people freak out and 3 days after their injection they head to the docs.

The doc will ALWAYS tell you it's an infection. I've only seen it happen once where someone actually did have an infection because it was verified by a culture test. Otherwise, all they have to go by is your description of symptoms. My last cycle I had all of the symptoms of an infection, yet I never actually had one. The rule I live by is if I don't have any pain the next day, I'm fine unless I start to get pain days later. If I get pain the next day, I give it 5 days. If it doesn't feel any better or feels worse in 5 days, I'll head to a doctor.

GYMBRAT
11-10-2009, 12:57 AM
I know some tests will crystallize if it was ever partialy frozen, still then it won't harm you, I've also had a good percentage of my gear unevenly filled with no worries..have yet to ever have a single issue with anything :) (just knocked on wood)

kloan
11-10-2009, 01:24 AM
Yeah I had underfilled vials.. they were still fine.. and were actually replaced. Stand up service there.

tex
11-10-2009, 07:38 AM
Human Grade. :)

C-money
11-10-2009, 10:39 AM
Like GB and Kloan are saying bro... to know you have to try it and take a RISK.. Life is full of risks.. ive only used Canadian UG and havent had any issues so far

Mr Ontario
11-10-2009, 02:55 PM
Even then,,thats faked, so I guess he is shit out luck. :) Creatine?


Human Grade. :)

GYMBRAT
11-10-2009, 03:09 PM
Creatine good, steroids bad :)

Mr Ontario
11-10-2009, 03:18 PM
how about .... steroids bad, Creatine good :)


Creatine good, steroids bad :)

GYMBRAT
11-10-2009, 03:29 PM
nah that wouldn't make any sense then! :)

Mr Ontario
11-10-2009, 03:35 PM
nah that wouldn't make any more sense then! :)


nah that wouldn't make any sense then! :)

JifeLacket
11-10-2009, 03:42 PM
Mr. O you been drinkin? ;)

Mr Ontario
11-10-2009, 03:44 PM
Nope drinking is bad for you...just narcotics :)


Mr. O you been drinkin? ;)

Mr Ontario
11-10-2009, 03:45 PM
Did nobody notice that MP changed my Mr Ontario below to a lighter colour to coincide with the new board look :)

kloan
11-10-2009, 05:55 PM
I don't think I ever noticed you had a sig pic at all..... lol

GYMBRAT
11-10-2009, 07:03 PM
Nope drinking is bad for you...just narcotics :)

that's some good shiat! :) :a+

Mr Ontario
11-10-2009, 08:22 PM
You should know as you test it first :)


that's some good shiat! :) :a+

L3
11-10-2009, 08:42 PM
This Study :( (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19755459?ordinalpos=6&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum)



Echocardiographic results showed that bodybuilders who use steroids have smaller left ventricular dimension with thicker walls, impaired diastolic function, as well as higher peak systolic strain rate in steroid-using bodybuilders as compared to the other two groups. Light microscopy examination of cardiac muscle fibers showed focal areas of degeneration with loss of striations and vacuolation in the experimental group. Ultrastructural examination showed disturbance of the banding pattern of the cardiac muscle fiber with disintegration, loss of striations, dehiscent intercalated disc, and interrupted Z-bands.

Mr Ontario
11-10-2009, 08:50 PM
thats it,,I quit cold turkey,,I suggest everyone do the same...forget about living for the moment and looking good/feeling good now...I rather live longer and look better when I'm not 90 years old if thats possible lol :)


This Study :( (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19755459?ordinalpos=6&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum)

tex
11-10-2009, 10:11 PM
This Study :( (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19755459?ordinalpos=6&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum) makes sense. does explain my bp on cycle. but it returned to better than normal upon cessastion so i dunno......on cycle was sometimes a weird # like syst @ 120-130 but then diast would be like 50-60.....which is a huge difference...should be no more than a 40 point difference between the 2 #'s.....which means somethin is up....er somethin is not working correctly.....that was only with primo, var and npp.....with test only my #'s were gtg.....soooo....i dunno......im sure glad i'm all natty now.....all healthy n shit ;)

GYMBRAT
11-10-2009, 10:23 PM
You should know as you test it first :)

hahaa toucher :moon

hommes
11-10-2009, 10:47 PM
ahhhhhhh