gotta stop doing deads....

[theboss]

so the last couple weeks i have tweeked my back doing deads...so it looks like they are out of rotation atleast for a while....that sucks.
maybe i gotta drop the weight down for a bit....or throw a belt on.

[_Ragnar_]

I hear ya there I am not doing them this week (at least) either, did my groin in last week.

[cheesesteak]

Twice I've hurt the left side of my lower back. I hate deads. Such an awkward exercise.

[theboss]

Twice I've hurt the left side of my lower back. I hate deads. Such an awkward exercise.

but such a beneficial one!
i was only using 400lbs for reps so i am pissed..i shouldnt have tried them again last night..last week i tweeked it but it was feeling better so i went for it..and as soon as i got 400 up for the 6th time it went. I was doing 500lb not long ago. grrrrr

[cheesesteak]

Yeah, I'm still gonna do deads. Just lower the weight and focus completely on form.

[manfreakca]

i stoped doin regular deads to many injuries now i do straight leg deads,no probs.doin regular deads i have blown out my lower back many times and also tore my right lat.goin heavy straight leg is more benificial to me.It gives me a strong lower back and big hamstrings.

[marino]

Everytime I let my ego get in the way of form I hurt myself. Not worth it

[CanadianIron]

Im reluctant to ever go heavy with deads, feels like im about to bust something whenever I go over 400.

Try and see how many times you can rep 315. Im sure if you got to the 20 rep mark you'd be way further ahead than 400 X 6 or even heavier for less..

[ubcpower]

Couple Suggestions:
1. Put them at the end of your back workout for 3x15-20. Youll be fully warm and youll be forced to lighter.
2. Most deadlift injuries are on the lower portion of the movement when a lot of the weight and tension is transferred to the hamstrings/glutes and hips...by doing rack deads from your knee level it takes out the lower and vulnerable portion of the movement.
3. Really dedicate time to stretching out your hamstrings and hip flexors throughout the week

[GYMBRAT]

good info ubc!

[Winnipeg Muscle]

I too have had some "twinges" doing heavy deads, but have luckily been able to work through them...I have experienced heavy deads being more effective than light deads if the goal is strength and a hard look...of course for hypertrophy volume is the king so that is why I do lots of sets. I personally find doing lots of reps becomes more of an aerobic activity for me. Warming up seems to be key with a few light sets to get into the groove. I am just coming off a cold and yesterday I was suppose to do 10 sets of 4 with 405 and ended up stopping at six sets...point being we have to listen to our bodies sometimes and adapt our workouts. At the same time there is fine line with not going balls out and using a cold or a minor pain as an excuse to puss out. Deads should be in all workout programs lets face it is the king of exercises. some of the variations like sumo, etc may be an another option.

"Heavy training increases your myogenic tone through the hypertrophy (growth) of the contractile proteins myosin and actin (myosin and actin are by far the most dense components of skeletal muscle). Training in higher rep ranges promotes more sarcoplasmic (fluid) hypertrophy, which in turn yields a "softer" pumped look. If you want to be hard, firm, tight, etc, the latter is certainly not the way to go. The second aspect of a muscles' tone is neurogenic tone, or the tone that is expressed when movements or contractions occur. Again, lower rep training comes out on top as training with heavy loads will increase the sensitivity of alpha and gamma motor neurons, thus increasing neurogenic tone when conducting even the simplest of movements (i.e. walking, extending your arm to point, etc). Finally, as alluded to in point number one, training with heavy loads and low volume (sets x reps) is the best way to get hard and strong."

[Shortdave]

Just out of curiosity, how many of you are breathing out during your deadlifts?

[Winnipeg Muscle]

Just out of curiosity, how many of you are breathing out during your deadlifts?

If a grunt or yell at the top of the lift counts as breathing then I do, I find I have to hold my breath a bit in the beginning of the lift to maintain core stability...

[CanadianIron]

Just out of curiosity, how many of you are breathing out during your deadlifts?

I thought you were more prone to injury if you're breathing out?

I've always taken a breath and the top of each rep and breathed out just i finished each rep.

[theboss]

Couple Suggestions:
1. Put them at the end of your back workout for 3x15-20. Youll be fully warm and youll be forced to lighter.
2. Most deadlift injuries are on the lower portion of the movement when a lot of the weight and tension is transferred to the hamstrings/glutes and hips...by doing rack deads from your knee level it takes out the lower and vulnerable portion of the movement.
3. Really dedicate time to stretching out your hamstrings and hip flexors throughout the week

i am doing DC....so deads are at the end.
and they were rack deads as well...i think it was just a too much weight too fast thing.

[Shortdave]

I thought you were more prone to injury if you're breathing out?

I've always taken a breath and the top of each rep and breathed out just i finished each rep.

You are correct, breathing out is a bad thing, holding the air in your stomach from the beginning of a rep until the end of a rep is how you stay safe. Treat each rep like its own set.

[GYMBRAT]

You are correct, breathing out is a bad thing, holding the air in your stomach from the beginning of a rep until the end of a rep is how you stay safe. Treat each rep like its own set.

wurd

[waderow]

You are correct, breathing out is a bad thing, holding the air in your stomach from the beginning of a rep until the end of a rep is how you stay safe. Treat each rep like its own set.

same with squats

[Winnipeg Muscle]

You are correct, breathing out is a bad thing, holding the air in your stomach from the beginning of a rep until the end of a rep is how you stay safe. Treat each rep like its own set.

good to know, I have been doing that but never heard anyone say its the right way...makes sense and I think its just natural.

[Drummer]

I pulled my QL and as a result threw the rest of my back out. One month no deads, romanians, squats, bent over rows etc... anything that stresses lower back.

~D~

[GYMBRAT]

I pulled my QL and as a result threw the rest of my back out. One month no deads, romanians, squats, bent over rows etc... anything that stresses lower back.

~D~

that SUCKS dude...get well soon eh!

[Winnipeg Muscle]

that SUCKS dude...get well soon eh!

X2 That is brutal.

[Drummer]

LOL thnx, it is getting better by the day - picked up 225 today for a couple reps to feel it - its getting better. Couple more weeks and I can pick er up again. Im going for 500 1rp as soon as i can... I know i can do it.

~D~

[hommes]

i hurt my back too doing 10 sets of 10 about 2 months ago mind you.