First Cycle Critique

[Petey1]

Hey guys,
I'm new to this board and have been contemplating a cycle for some time. I've been training seriously for three years(albeit stupidly for the first year and a half). Right now I'm 5'10'' at around 195. I haven't ever had my body fat done but I'd guess it's around 12%. My diet has been good for that last year or so. I haven't tracked calories in a while but I eat few carbs, lots of fat and protein, just eating more or less depending on what I'm trying to do.

I've competed in powerlifting in the past with my best lifts being a 230kg squat and dead in a single ply metal suit. My best raw(belted) pull is 485lbs and squat is around 425 keeping decent form. My bench is pretty brutal and needs technique work.

I'm not terribly concerned with packing on piles of muscle, some good lean pounds and strength gains are what I'm after most. I realize this is a serious step and I've been trying to get as much reading in as possible. So far this is what I've come up with:
Test Enan W 1-8 250mg E3D(Front load with 750mg on first day)
Adex W 1-14 .25mg EOD(Tapering to off gradually from W 11-14)
Hcg W 2or3-8 250 IU's EOD (if i can track some down)
Nolva W 11-12 40mg ED W 13-14 20mg ED

From what I've read it looks like for the first cycle it's best to just go with test to see how your body handles it. My big concern is the pct and getting the the testes going again. Will adex and nova do the job? let me know if this cycle looks good. I won't be using until I'm confident its safe for me to do so.

Let me know what you guys think of the cycle and thanks in advance.

[Memo]

nvm

[gicantor]

IMO
-Run the cycle 12 weeks
-drop the adex from pct
-only run adex on cycle if required
-drop the HCG first cycle(shutdown won't be to bad with just test)
-keep it simple. shoot 250mg on mon/thurs
-pct looks good nolva 40/40/20/20

[Petey1]

Ok, so does this look better?

Test Enan W 1-12 250mg Tuesday & Thurs(Front load with 750mg on first day)
Nolva W 15-16 40mg ED W 17-18 20mg ED
Adex on hand.

Will most people agree this will be a safe, effective first cycle?

[nitrous]

first time injecting and you want to do a 3cc injection? i'd just run it without a frontload

[tiramisu]

If you want to go with an 8 week cycle you might want to consider test prop although this requires a lot more injections.

Test-e takes about 3 weeks to build up in your system so as said above a 12 week cycle might be a little more effective. If it makes you happy to front load it won't hurt anything but you could just as easily skip it.

The adex and the hcg aren't going to hurt anything and may help some but hopefully not much.
estrogen sides on 500mg of test a week are going to be minimal (nonetheless I use aromasin during my cycle)
while a 12 week 500 test e cycle will shut you down the nolva should work just fine without the hcg (nonetheless I use low dose hcg during my cycle)
nolva 40/40/20/20 is exactly what I would do.

[GYMBRAT]

Ok, so does this look better?

Test Enan W 1-12 250mg Tuesday & Thurs(Front load with 750mg on first day)
Nolva W 15-16 40mg ED W 17-18 20mg ED
Adex on hand.

Will most people agree this will be a safe, effective first cycle?

first off welcome! .......this cycle does look better, don't bother with the front load, imo it's a waist of gear! pct looks fine also.

[tex]

looks fine. no frontload and no adex unless needed. welcome to the board!

[theboss]

agree with the cycles suggested changes.

[Delt King]

I think you should front load for sure. Take advantage getting your levels up as quickly as possible.
HCG is def needed from week 1 IMO 500 2 times per week. I've got 5 friends who all can't produce natural test anymore and need HRT for life because of hard shutoff.
Adex not needed nor Nolva unless you feel any gyno hitting. Keep it on hand. use nolva for PCT.

[theboss]

HCG is def needed from week 1 IMO 500 2 times per week. I've got 5 friends who all can't produce natural test anymore and need HRT for life because of hard shutoff.


HCG for a test only cycle? kind of overkill in my opinion.....

what were your 5 friends taking?

[Petey1]

thanks for the welcome tex & gymrat and to everyone for the info.

ok so it looks like i can probably drop the frontload. I'll keep adex and nolva on hand just in case. Looks like there's a bit of a debate on the hcg. I wouldn't mind running it but I'm not sure if I can even get ahold of any. Maybe for next time.

also in regaurds to frontloading, would any one recommend upping the first 2 injections to 500mg? or is it just not worth it the benefit?

[marino]

I finished a test cycle without a front load and by week 3 I was noticing size and strength gains. So not necessary imo. Welcome to cbb

[gicantor]

HCG is def needed from week 1 IMO 500 2 times per week. I've got 5 friends who all can't produce natural test anymore and need HRT for life because of hard shutoff.


They got permanent shutdown from a 12 week cycle of test? Highly unlikely. I guarantee were either abusing the drugs or using something stronger than test. People have come off 2 year cycles and recovered completely. Mind you it takes time.

Petey1, you can do what you want but it's better to test the waters with as little drugs as possible. See how you respond to test alone.

[gicantor]

thanks for the welcome tex & gymrat and to everyone for the info.

ok so it looks like i can probably drop the frontload. I'll keep adex and nolva on hand just in case. Looks like there's a bit of a debate on the hcg. I wouldn't mind running it but I'm not sure if I can even get ahold of any. Maybe for next time.

also in regaurds to frontloading, would any one recommend upping the first 2 injections to 500mg? or is it just not worth it the benefit?

Drop the front load. No need for it. Not worth it IMO