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nitrous
06-10-2009, 11:11 PM
Cycle was roughly:
test heptylate 500mg a week
EQ 600mg a week (cut this out 2 weeks before ending the test)

also did tbol 50mg ED for a bit at the beginning and dbol 25mg ED near the end for a little bit.. total cycle was a long one.. 17.5 months..

did my last injection on september 8th..

2 weeks after that on september 23rd i started clomid at 50mg twice a day and aromasin at 12.5mg ED..

it has been 2 weeks now on the clomid and aromasin.. my boys feel much more full than they were about normal i would guess.. i should have done HCG for sure but went away and ****ed it up and decided to just cut it out.. next time for sure..


so my question is.. for most of you guys how long does libido take to come back full? what about energy? my pumps are down but i can still get a pump no problem. lot less veins though.. strength is down a bit.. endurance is down huge right now.. and weight has gone from 176 to 173.5 which isnt too bad at all.. libido is definitely hurting though

Solo59
06-10-2009, 11:53 PM
There's sometimes a libido lag; you're used to having way too much testosterone in your bloodstream so it may be that even "normal" levels don't inspire you much. Psychology just has to catch up with physiology. Give it time. The old Adam will rise again & demand to be heard.:rolleyes:

Solo

tex
07-10-2009, 01:03 AM
Libido is gonna be a while bro. hcg would have helped for sure but your past that now.....

JonnyO
07-10-2009, 01:10 AM
You were on for a VERY long time, so I wouldnt expect your libido to return to normal for a long, long time. I'd guess in the 8-10 month mark to be realistic. I would hit every natural OTC supplement your can get your hands on. Also I was hitting some HCG even few months after my PCT and found it helped...sure helped get the wife pregnant thats for sure, lol.

Praetorian
07-10-2009, 10:04 AM
Yep what J.O. said is correct....gonna be a long time. Get blood work done to see where you are then you can make a plan.
P

nitrous
07-10-2009, 10:36 AM
hmm.. i'm taking tribulus as well at 2g a day right now.. what other OTC supplements would you recommend? Yohimbe?

i do have HCG sitting around... would it be worth starting that now and then extending the aromasin and clomid an additional 2 weeks each? or should i keep it as it is and just keep the OTC supplements going and get blood work in a month or two and see where its at?


By the way i'm 25 and previous cycles were 10 weeks and under so that should be a factor in my favor a bit i would think

z83
07-10-2009, 10:48 AM
HCG helped my libido but coming off aromasin did the trick

L3
07-10-2009, 10:52 AM
i take my trib at 6grams during PCT, 3 pre workout 3 pre bed

nitrous
07-10-2009, 10:55 AM
i take my trib at 6grams during PCT, 3 pre workout 3 pre bed

i was thinking about upping it to at least 3g... i'll up that thanks man

nitrous
10-10-2009, 12:20 PM
well after talking to P and doing some research i'm restarting my PCT with HCG in it... basically a month of a waste after the cycle lol always learning.. sometimes you gotta find out the hard way

JonnyO
10-10-2009, 12:39 PM
well after talking to P and doing some research i'm restarting my PCT with HCG in it... basically a month of a waste after the cycle lol always learning.. sometimes you gotta find out the hard way

Thats good bro, do it right things shouldnt be too bad, especially with your age as a factor. I follow the PoWeR PCT protocol and have found it works very well for myself.