End of the year cycle protocol is in

[Born2Juice4Ever]

CBB,

So here I go again, ready to cycle.

Here is my protocol as it stands:

Weeks 1-13 1000 prop
Weeks 1-12 cypio OR enant at 500mgs (I will interchange around the half way mark)

Week 1-4 NPP 400mgs
Weeks 3-12 Deca at 400mgs

Months: 1, 3, 4 Long3 IGF-3 at 40mcgs 5 days on 2 days off---probably site shooting as well.

I expect PCT to be an aggressive one since, I am running deca for a bit.

I have winstrol on hand, and will probably run it in there somewhere, simply because I LOVE deca/winst/test combo.

PCT as follows:

-ASIDE from the help IGF offers.
-week 14, 15: nolva 60mgs ED
-Week 14, 15: Clomid 100mgs ED
-Week 16 and 17 Nolva/clomid 40/50

Starting stats: 220lbs 13%
Goal within cycle: 235 12%

Training consistent with 4-5 days, where cardio takes place at least 2-3 times per week.
My diet will be monitored closely.
I am projected to start this baby not this Friday, but NEXT Friday.
For now I am just warming up with some winstrol at 50mgs---9 days prior to start, to get some blood marks on the go on my shirts :D :D

Comments and feedback are welcomed of course.

A special note: I will only exchange information regarding the compounds that are being used in here BY e-mail and within a selective circle.


B2J

[Solo59]

You're running 1000 mg of Test prop plus 500 mg of Test cyp/enth EW?:shock

Solo

[Born2Juice4Ever]

You're running 1000 mg of Test prop plus 500 mg of Test cyp/enth EW?:shock

Solo

More does not mean better.
This cycle only contains a few ingredients.
I have been playing for more than 12 years, and most of my cycles the last 5 years have averaged between 1500 to 2500--depending on how I feel or what I am doing.

I would like to be at 240 again by early in 2010 and maintain that throughout.



B2J

[gicantor]

Man, that's alot of oil. Pardon my ignorance but I'm still learning. What is the purpose of running the prop all the way through since your using a long ester? And if your shooting that often why not just run NPP all the way instead of switching to deca?thanx

[Big D]

I dont like your goal,


your not aiming high enough, try to bulk up to 250 -260 lbs

:)

[GYMBRAT]

keep us posted dog ;)

[tex]

id use drol instead of winny...or maybe start with drol then give a few weeks break and finish with winny......looks alright tho......keep us updated

[theboss]

B2J is hardcore!!!

13 weeks at 1g Prop....kudos..

[_Ragnar_]

At that volume of prop I would assume you are going to pin everyday. What is your week going to look like as far as pinning schedule goes?

[theboss]

At that volume of prop I would assume you are going to pin everyday. What is your week going to look like as far as pinning schedule goes?

i think he is week is going be very busy!

[natenator]

is this is a bulk I see no need for winny. what's the reason behind running winny for bulking?

[C-money]

With your handle being B2J4E... I wouldnt expect anything less! ha ha! Beastly cycle broski! Start up a log, keep us posted on this one

[Redz]

Thats alot of test, Why not more deca less test?

[theboss]

Thats alot of test, Why not more deca less test?

cause B2J is a ladies man........:D

[L3]

what's the reason behind running winny for bulking?

i am surprised by this question. why does it matter what compounds he is running... it all depends on his diet

[waderow]

Lots of oil bro. I would be having to pin ED, and every site injection site possible. I hope you have painless gear.

Otherwise, I keep us posted.

[waderow]

winny can help lose some water, and offer additional strength gains

[natenator]

winny can help lose some water, and offer additional strength gains

This is true, i can promote strength gains right off the bat but the joint issues is what I fear when one is looking to bulk/gain. You are always upping the volume and poundages and now throw into the mix a compound known for wrecking havoc on the joints?

That's my concern with using winny in a bulking/gaining cycle. Risk vs. reward I guess.

[natenator]

i am surprised by this question. why does it matter what compounds he is running... it all depends on his diet
see below for my reason.

[GYMBRAT]

pinnin while ya poop eh!

[L3]

see below for my reason.

i see your point, good call

[z83]

the nnp/deca should help the joints

[Solo59]

That's one **** of a "cycle". I've just gotta use this shot again: This is how you'll feel, B2J4E!

Solo

[gustavo77]

CBB,

So here I go again, ready to cycle.

Here is my protocol as it stands:

Weeks 1-13 1000 prop
Weeks 1-12 cypio OR enant at 500mgs (I will interchange around the half way mark)

Week 1-4 NPP 400mgs
Weeks 3-12 Deca at 400mgs

Months: 1, 3, 4 Long3 IGF-3 at 40mcgs 5 days on 2 days off---probably site shooting as well.

I expect PCT to be an aggressive one since, I am running deca for a bit.

I have winstrol on hand, and will probably run it in there somewhere, simply because I LOVE deca/winst/test combo.

PCT as follows:

-ASIDE from the help IGF offers.
-week 14, 15: nolva 60mgs ED
-Week 14, 15: Clomid 100mgs ED
-Week 16 and 17 Nolva/clomid 40/50

Starting stats: 220lbs 13%
Goal within cycle: 235 12%

Training consistent with 4-5 days, where cardio takes place at least 2-3 times per week.
My diet will be monitored closely.
I am projected to start this baby not this Friday, but NEXT Friday.
For now I am just warming up with some winstrol at 50mgs---9 days prior to start, to get some blood marks on the go on my shirts :D :D

Comments and feedback are welcomed of course.

A special note: I will only exchange information regarding the compounds that are being used in here BY e-mail and within a selective circle.


B2J

A couple of suggestions, if i may bro...i would start the deca week one...takes about 4-5 weeks for dura to kick in...

Also i see no HCG in your line up...deca is very suppressive and at your age (:moon), you are gonna need all the help you can get...haha. Run HCG @500iu, 2x per week from week one right up till 4-5 days before you start pct...

PCT, i think you can get away with less SERMS and add an AI and it would be much more effective.

PCT=

1-3 Clomid 50mg/day
1-5 Aromasin 25mg/day

My couple of cents...

[GYMBRAT]

^^ very true, just thought that the HCG was a given at your age B2J! heh heh!

[giannos]

Definitely allot of oil... B2J, if you have time you should log this. It should be a good one !! Keep us posted ,:hu

[Born2Juice4Ever]

Hey fellas,

HCG is a def great idea, I often over look at the magical results this compound yields.

I am very used to pinning regularly, some of the cycles that I do (have done), require AM, PM pinnings and over the years I have become accostumed.
Good advise on the deca, I had over looked at the fact that it was running below 50% ratio in comparison to test. I ALWAYS run deca at least 50-60% aside test.
When for example if I am running 1000mgs of test, deca will never surpass 600mgs.

Here are the available sites for me:

-Left quad I can pin 3 locations
-Right quad, I can pin 3 locations
-Left shoulder I can play with the front and 2 on the side head (3)
-right shoulder (3)

That's 12 available locations to rotate from.
Now my off the top of my head pinning schedule per week:

Mond: prop 1.5ML mls= 300mgs/npp 1ML=200mgs 1 SHOT
Tuesd: enan 1ml: 300mls 1 SHOT
Wed: prop 1mls= 200mgs/npp 1ml=200mgs (that's 400mgs NPP) 1 SHOT
Thurs: prop 1.5mls= 300mls 1 SHOT
Frid: EMPTY SPACE
Sat:prop 1ml= 200 (that's 1000mgs PROP) --same shot enan 1ML= 300mls (that's 600mgs of ENAN)- 1ML of NPP=200MGS (now NPP adds to 600mgs WEEKLY) 1 SHOT
Sunday: EMPTY space

I realize that there is a factor involved with the NPP, and I will work on this in the next few days, before take off.
IGF? 5 days on, 2 days off. Simple as it sounds. The shot variation here will probably depend on the muscle worked on that day, or best that I can anyways.

OILS accumulate 5 shots per week.
As I incorporate Winstrol in the cycle, it will be introduced at 1ml per=50mgs ED. Winstrol will take an additional 5 shooting areas, I would be at 10 OUT of possible 12 sites.
As soon as I make the transition from NPP to deca and the long acting kicks in, it really is not a bad idea to start HCG Gustavo---1000ius weekly sounds good...up until 48 hours PRIOR to PCT worked for me in the past. It really is all about timing the LONG acting compounds more or less. There is no specific "to the minute" science IMO, but it never hurts to be accurate.


I will start a log fellas, as soon as the games begin.

Thank you for the feedback...I expect this cycle to be a very good one!!

Why do I do stuff like this? Ask an alcoholic the fun he/she has getting plasttered every single day, ask a sex addict the fun she/he has.......

B2J

[Born2Juice4Ever]

Lots of oil bro. I would be having to pin ED, and every site injection site possible. I hope you have painless gear.

Otherwise, I keep us posted.


Wheather the gear is or will be painless that is another topic on its on.
I normally rotate my shots according to the muscle part I may be working on that particular day, i.e:

If I am working shoulders, I will hit the shoulders
if I am working quads, I will hit quads

I am also going to be incorporating CHEST shots in my rotation.
In the possible event that the gear hurts the next day, shooting the particular worked muscle will allow the proper rest, while allowing any possible gear-related pains to subside in 24-28 hours.

I am starting this 2009 BREAKING WALLS cycle tomorrow instead of Friday.

In the log forum, I will be starting a log with as much detail as I can.
I will also be starting a Q & A part of the thread.

I will also be providing feedback on the product BY secure email ONLY.


B2J

[overboost]

lol the breaking walls cycle, nicely put bro. Keep us posted im interested to see what a run of this magnitude yeilds!