Short but sweet....

[varking]

Ok guys I'm starting to plan my next cycle I want it to be a short one 8-10 weeks. My question is should I run prop or sust. Is 8-10 weeks to short to run sust??
here is what I'm thinking
1-8 or 10 prop or sust 700mg per week
npp 1-8 or 10 not sure on how much yet
proviron 50mg once per day
aromasin one pill per day
Ok let me know what you think guys and what you woudl add or take out..

[tex]

use prop. way too short of time to use sustanon.

[varking]

How about a 8 week blaster of prop/tren/masteron:yeah

Rex

Used tren last cycle had a hard time with mood on it so staying away but masteron might be added in

[tex]

dont use masteron. waste. prop and npp for 8-10 weeks is a killer cycle.....

[theboss]

use prop. way too short of time to use sustanon.

wrong bro.
Sust 1cc EOD is wicked IMO !!!!!!

but 8-10 of Prop/TrenA would be even better

[JonnyO]

I like the sust but not a fan of NPP, just toss in EQ or Deca 10 weeks is fine.

[varking]

I have used eq my last 3 cycles soo no eq and deca isnt that too short to use it for only 10 weeks the reason for npp is bc i want to be on per say for the whole time...

[gustavo77]

Well if you want to run prop and NPP run it like this:

1-10 Prop 150mg eod
1-9 NPP 100-125mg eod
1-PCT Proviron 25mg twice per day
1-PCT Aromasin 12.5mg/day
1-PCT HCG 500iu twice per week

Now that is a sweet cycle...

[varking]

yes that does look like a sweet cycle maybe add some anadrol in there....

[GYMBRAT]

I ran 100 prop eod, tren a at 75 eod for 10 wks a number of cycles ago! All them pokes were not fun but I did do great on the strength/gains end of things!

[JonnyO]

and deca isnt that too short to use it for only 10 weeks .

I do all the time.

[varking]

Now my arms are up in the air.... should I go prop and npp for 8 weeks or go test c and deca for 10 weeks?? Will I notice more gains from one to the other???

[PdH]

When I first started 8 - 10 weeks was standard protocol for any ester. Now that I run long esters for 16 weeks I do find a difference in the totals gains obtained. You will make good gains from long esters in 10 weeks, but you won't stall, thus cutting the cycle short. I'd go with the prop/NPP.

[Born2Juice4Ever]

The building process is always the best part...implementing the compounds i half the work...seeing your body transform is the best part.

Prop, NPP --or deca, winstrol, ---you can never go wrong....IMO those are the backbone of any cycle :D :D in my house anyways hahahahah



B2J

[GYMBRAT]

I love the long drawn out cycles best for my body, I like to ease into them and ease out of them, just seems my body responds better that way as opposed to the short "hard" chock
to the system cycles :)

[hyperlite32]

Well if you want to run prop and NPP run it like this:

1-10 Prop 150mg eod
1-9 NPP 100-125mg eod
1-PCT Proviron 25mg twice per day
1-PCT Aromasin 12.5mg/day
1-PCT HCG 500iu twice per week

Now that is a sweet cycle...

Agreed!

[phatkid77]

A. no ones aske, u didnt mention....what is your GOAL for this cycle?? just cause....not prepping for a show now, correct? future??

B. i cant imagine the constant poking of prop, let alone NPP...only for a show will i do this....winters coming to boot??? just curious

C. ive seen cycles that have 6wks of either deca and EQ......so, i thnk the 10wk minimum for said compounds is a myth....

we all want to believe the secret is the drugs...any good trainer ive seen keeps it VERY simple (like you have here) 2, maybe 3 compounds....DIET IS KEY, (i just proved it to myselft the last 2wks by adding some different carb sources...body loves it...apparently)

phats

[varking]

A. no ones aske, u didnt mention....what is your GOAL for this cycle?? just cause....not prepping for a show now, correct? future??

B. i cant imagine the constant poking of prop, let alone NPP...only for a show will i do this....winters coming to boot??? just curious

C. ive seen cycles that have 6wks of either deca and EQ......so, i thnk the 10wk minimum for said compounds is a myth....

we all want to believe the secret is the drugs...any good trainer ive seen keeps it VERY simple (like you have here) 2, maybe 3 compounds....DIET IS KEY, (i just proved it to myselft the last 2wks by adding some different carb sources...body loves it...apparently)

phats


Goal for this cycle is bulk.. I will be doing a show this time or so next year I hope.. Maybe sooner..
I think I'm going with this

1-14 Test c 750mg per week
1-12 deca 500mg per week
1-4 anadrol
1-14 proviron 50mg per day
1-14 Aromasin 12.5mg per day
1-12 hcg 1000iu per week
I have never used deca nor test c and anadrol.... Looking forward to run them

[phatkid77]

you sound indecissive...lol...
i though gustavo said to leave proviron and aromisin till PCT??
have you done many cycles @ 500mg/wk? b4 jumping to 750mg...curious again....
i too am doin a show nxt yr, and our options for the closest is ottawa...and that will be MAY OR NOVEMBER.... ill do november...not driving 5hrs to compete either....lol

phats

[kloan]

Proviron for PCT? First I've seen this mentioned.... is this becoming a preferred choice over Nolva or Clomid?

[GYMBRAT]

Proviron for PCT? First I've seen this mentioned.... is this becoming a preferred choice over Nolva or Clomid?

Proviron is an oral angrogenic streroid that yes can be used as an estrogen antagonist. Once it's in the blood it then competes with estrogen at the receptor sites. In some cases it will result in an end to other steroids aromatizing as well. It also can be stacked with other gear to attain a harder look precontest. :)