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Memo
03-10-2009, 09:21 PM
Why someone would want to use sustanon, I am confuse about the usefulness of this blend.

Thank you for enlightening me

Mr Ontario
03-10-2009, 09:23 PM
Get bigger , faster? more water retention :)

Memo
03-10-2009, 09:32 PM
Get bigger , faster? more water retention :)

How long before size should come .. water.. with prop or cyp?

Testosterone Decanoate will stay active so long in the body... this is probably not the greatest for short cycle. How long should a sust cycle be plan for?



from www.mesomorphosis.com

Therefore, athletes commonly use Sustanon to put on mass and size while increasing strength. However, unlike other testosterone compounds such as testosterone cypionate and testosterone enanthate, the use of Sustanon leads to less water retention and estrogenic side effects. This characteristic is extremely beneficial to bodybuilders who suffer from gynecomastia yet still seek the powerful anabolic effect of an injectable testosterone. The decreased water retention also makes Sustanon a desirable steroid for bodybuilders and athletes interested in cutting up or building a solid foundation of quality mass.

Why less water retention? I thought the longer the ester the more water retention..

greekgod
03-10-2009, 10:28 PM
I would run sust for 10-12 weeks. The only advantage sust has is that it starts to work within the first week. This is great if you want to avoid having to use an oral kick start such as dbol.

Memo
03-10-2009, 10:42 PM
I would run sust for 10-12 weeks. The only advantage sust has is that it starts to work within the first week. This is great if you want to avoid having to use an oral kick start such as dbol.

What if someone use suspension two weeks and continue with test E?

something like


week 1-4 -test e 250+Test sus 250mg/week ed
week 5-12 - test e 500mg/week eod

Do you start pct 1 month after last shot since decaonate last one month6

gustavo77
03-10-2009, 10:49 PM
What if someone use suspension & prop for the first two weeks and continue with test E?

That is fine also...

The thing with sust is, it has a little prop in there, some medium esters going on and then finishes with the long ass decanoate ester... it is a pretty cool blend and is still used in medicine in some countries... I like it...i have only ran Omna (for last few years the same blend as sust) and UG sust though but i have to say i liked it both times i ran it... maybe one day i will run HG sust..

gustavo77
03-10-2009, 10:52 PM
What if someone use suspension two weeks and continue with test E?

something like


week 1-4 -test e 250+Test sus 250mg/week ed
week 5-12 - test e 500mg/week eod

Do you start pct 1 month after last shot since decaonate last one month6

Nah...if you run sust, i would run it without any other test and run it eod for the whole cycle...works great with NPP and tren like this.. :)

If you want to kick start test E with something, run prop or susp @50-100mg per day for the first 3-4 weeks.

megwell
04-10-2009, 10:34 AM
because sus also has prop in it....... you'll feel it faster....... but how much will you feel with the low dose in the sus........ that's the question.......
i always ran prop along with the sus in the begining for the first couple of weeks.
i love prop.

BEANPOLENB
04-10-2009, 10:42 AM
I like sustanon cuz I had way less sides than cyp even at a higher dose. Plus I feel a lot safer breaking open an amp than I do with a vial that was slapped together in a basement.

Redz
04-10-2009, 11:20 PM
I like sustanon cuz I had way less sides than cyp even at a higher dose. Plus I feel a lot safer breaking open an amp than I do with a vial that was slapped together in a basement.I`m the opposite, sometimes glass gets into the amp when you open it. I prefer vials, also imo I think sticking with long or short esters is a better idea sustanon just has too many different esters.

gustavo77
05-10-2009, 12:42 AM
I`m the opposite, sometimes glass gets into the amp when you open it. I prefer vials, also imo I think sticking with long or short esters is a better idea sustanon just has too many different esters.

It would have to be a pretty freaking tiny piece of glass to get drawn up by a 22g pin...lol....also with enough practice, you'll pretty much always get a clean break on the amps anyway...

The esters in sust kick in sequentially, so it is not as worthless a drug as most people think...it is pretty cool actually... if you use it right, the blend of esters is sust can be a nice change from single estered gear..

theboss
05-10-2009, 11:24 AM
i am a fan of Sust as well.

CMS Pimp
05-10-2009, 12:31 PM
Just do prop for 12 weeks :D

TryGear
05-10-2009, 08:03 PM
Not to highjack the thread but anyone know the detection time of test decanoate? I can find times for every
other test ester but that one.

Mr Ontario
05-10-2009, 08:30 PM
Always worried about getting caught aren't you ;)


Not to highjack the thread but anyone know the detection time of test decanoate? I can find times for every
other test ester but that one.

gustavo77
05-10-2009, 09:57 PM
Not sure of the detection time but the half life is about 18-21 days.

TryGear
06-10-2009, 09:42 AM
lol, Yes I am, but if I had an answer I'd feel much much better.

MikeyFXD35
06-10-2009, 10:59 AM
It would have to be a pretty freaking tiny piece of glass to get drawn up by a 22g pin...lol....also with enough practice, you'll pretty much always get a clean break on the amps anyway...

The esters in sust kick in sequentially, so it is not as worthless a drug as most people think...it is pretty cool actually... if you use it right, the blend of esters is sust can be a nice change from single estered gear..

You have the pin on when you draw from an AMP?

theboss
06-10-2009, 11:17 AM
You have the pin on when you draw from an AMP?

you dont ?

GYMBRAT
06-10-2009, 11:20 AM
You have the pin on when you draw from an AMP?

I do :confused:

MikeyFXD35
06-10-2009, 01:08 PM
you dont ?

The way I was shown was the draw with the syringe only. I looked around on youtube for a demo but this is all I could find for you. Try and concentrate on what she is doing...LOL You get the idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7-7wU8U-FM&feature=related

MikeyFXD35
06-10-2009, 01:17 PM
you dont ?

The way I was shown was the draw with the syringe only. I looked around on youtube for a demo but this is all I could find for you. Try and concentrate on what she is doing...LOL You get the idea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7-7wU8U-FM&feature=related

theboss
06-10-2009, 01:19 PM
interesting....but i would think there is more chance of any glass getting in doing it like that...

MikeyFXD35
06-10-2009, 01:43 PM
That may be true but would it part through the needle?

theboss
06-10-2009, 01:48 PM
i think there would be ALOT less chance sucking any glass pieces up a needle than directly into the barrel.....but i dont use steroids...I'm just sayin.

GYMBRAT
06-10-2009, 02:00 PM
steroids bad, natty good!

TryGear
06-10-2009, 04:26 PM
glass amps have been used by the medical community forever, never heard of any glass getting in a syringe, "when done correctly ,,THE NEEDLE MUST BE ON THE SYRINGE WHEN DRAWING"