Weight Gainer

[Yzfr1]

Hi, I'm new to this forum and I've been looking around.

Have anyone try the Mass gainer from True Supplements?
http://truesupplements.com/product_info.php?products_id=59

I'm wondering how the ingredients compare to Cytogainer or Muscle Juice?

I just purchased 6lbs of cytogainer for $68 after tax, it's pretty expensive.

Thanks!

[gsxr750]

I notice that the Cytogainers main ingredient is "Cyto Carb II", and then whey protein concentrate, and whey hydrolysate.

Truesupplements main ingredient is whey protein isolate ( not cheap )

That's most of the cost in the gainer, the proteins. And TS is using primarily ISOLATE in their gainer not concentrate, and it's half the price..

[GYMBRAT]

what gsxr said....and welcome aboard bro!

[NACanada]

I notice that the Cytogainers main ingredient is "Cyto Carb II", and then whey protein concentrate, and whey hydrolysate.

Truesupplements main ingredient is whey protein isolate ( not cheap )

That's most of the cost in the gainer, the proteins. And TS is using primarily ISOLATE in their gainer not concentrate, and it's half the price..


Both products are similar but it's impossible that the main ingredient in the TS is whey isolate with 82 grams of the 150 gram serving size being carbs.

PH

[Memo]

I would use Peanut Butter, Whey & Maltodextrine-Fructose to make a weight gainer. Save a lot of money this way..

[Ritch]

I would use Peanut Butter, Whey & Maltodextrine-Fructose to make a weight gainer. Save a lot of money this way..

Why would you want to spike your insulin levels if you weren`t taking the product post workout? Hopefully that`s what you meant the gainer to be used as... Fructose a poor carb choice. Use oats for carbs as a mainstay. Add fruit or yogurt if you want more carbs. Yes there is fructose in those choices but at least with the fruits you get nutritious cals witht the fructose. The fructose powder by itelf is a poorly absorbed carb with zero nutritional value.

[Yzfr1]

Thanks for the replies.
I would love to make my own shake, but currently I'm living on an off campus residence. So I'll probably have noise complaints running my blender haha. That thing is loud!

So do you guys think it's worth a try? I'm just looking forward to finding myself some deals and supporting the Canadian Economy at the same time. Canada rules! :fwave

Btw GSXR, bikers for the win! I have a kawasaki 99 750r ninja. :yeah

[Ritch]

your gainer can easily be made without any noise. You will just need one day or 2 a week to grind up a bunch of oats. I`m sure when the others are making noise partying, you can grind up a few bags and then put the oats in ziplock bags. One cup of oats grinded will give you 70+ grams of carbs. Add a fruit like an apple you have another 20 grams of carbs. Add desired amount of protein and you have yourself a gainer. You could eat a few tablespoons of peanut butter out of the jar as well to add some fats if you want.

Trust me, it won`t get any easier or cheaper than this!

[Yzfr1]

Thanks for the reply, I use to make my own weight gainer shake too.

I had grinded up oats, protein (some low carb one i stole from my sister LOL), frozen strawberries, banana, 4% milk or evaporated milk and some ice cream.
I didn't get fat from it though haha.

I'm curious where I can get some quality protein for a decent price?

Thanks a lot.

[Memo]

Why would you want to spike your insulin levels if you weren`t taking the product post workout? Hopefully that`s what you meant the gainer to be used as... Fructose a poor carb choice. Use oats for carbs as a mainstay. Add fruit or yogurt if you want more carbs. Yes there is fructose in those choices but at least with the fruits you get nutritious cals witht the fructose. The fructose powder by itelf is a poorly absorbed carb with zero nutritional value.

I always used a blend 80% malto 20% dextrose, I was under the impression that fructose need to be processed by the liver so it keeps the insulin quite low.

[Canadian Protein.com]

Why don't you request some samples from us so you can checkout our quality for yourself!

Here's the link to our free sample offer: http://truesupplements.com/pages.php?pID=23


Thanks for the reply, I use to make my own weight gainer shake too.

I had grinded up oats, protein (some low carb one i stole from my sister LOL), frozen strawberries, banana, 4% milk or evaporated milk and some ice cream.
I didn't get fat from it though haha.

I'm curious where I can get some quality protein for a decent price?

Thanks a lot.

[nisser]

Both products are similar but it's impossible that the main ingredient in the TS is whey isolate with 82 grams of the 150 gram serving size being carbs.

PH

Nice catch there and you're absolutely right.

Care to comment Mr. Truesupplement rep?

[dremen]

Hi, I'm new to this forum and I've been looking around.

Have anyone try the Mass gainer from True Supplements?
http://truesupplements.com/product_info.php?products_id=59

I'm wondering how the ingredients compare to Cytogainer or Muscle Juice?

I just purchased 6lbs of cytogainer for $68 after tax, it's pretty expensive.

Thanks!

Dude buy your stuff trom truesups man. He is a GREAT dude and his products taste great PLUS it's very good stuff. Super low prices as well.

I have samples of mass gainer and iso whey and they are all very very good and digest really well meaning no farts....lol

[Canadian Protein.com]

PH is right...there is a slight ingredient typo...it should read:

Reason it was most likely a typo is because in terms of the protein ingredients as a whole it is larger than the individual carb sources. However, in regards to the protein breakdown Isolate is by far our highest ingredient with a staggering 35.34 grams of isolate per serving, then we have whey concentrate at 12.73 grams per serving, and calcium casein at 10.02 grams per serving. So the ingredients should read like so:

Protein complex (Whey Isolate, Whey Concentrate, Calcium Casein), Maltodextrin, Crystalline fructose, (Chocolate Flavours Contain Cocoa Powder), Vegetable Fiber; Natural and Artificial Flavours.

The latest analysis actually came back quite a bit higher than what we actually list in the nutritional facts, (we always put the lower end of the spectrum but our protein always tests higher as we always "overfill" our protein products)

We'll be posting up the COA's of our products soon...we just have to have a developer add in a few things to the site in order to do so, but this information was taken directly from the certificate of analysis.

Sorry for the confusion an thanks to PH :D

Oh and Dremen, that's probably why you're not getting any gas like other weight gainers...very high isolate content instead of high concentrate content.


Nice catch there and you're absolutely right.

Care to comment Mr. Truesupplement rep?

[Ritch]

I always used a blend 80% malto 20% dextrose, I was under the impression that fructose need to be processed by the liver so it keeps the insulin quite low.

What you said about fructose is true that is keeps bood sugars low, but still is not a carb to go out of your way to buy and use on purpose. The malto and dextrose are fast acting carbs and hope this is used either right before training and after. Unless you have a body that just dosen`t put on bodyfat, drinking those shakes will make you fat.

[Memo]

What you said about fructose is true that is keeps bood sugars low, but still is not a carb to go out of your way to buy and use on purpose. The malto and dextrose are fast acting carbs and hope this is used either right before training and after. Unless you have a body that just dosen`t put on bodyfat, drinking those shakes will make you fat.

Pretty fast metabolism..

Ive been using yams & papaya lately in my shakes. What i do if boil a yam, and freeze it in little cubes.

I use a handfull of frozen cooked yam & a couple peace of frozen papaya in my pre-workout shake.

[Yzfr1]

I'll try the other supplements if I order something for 100 bucks, so I don't have to pay like $10 to ship some samples. Thanks.

Thanks for the replies in the thread, I'm liking this forum already. :)
Canadian version of bodybuilding.com :) :cflag

[Ritch]

Canadian version of bodybuilding.com :) :cflag

Not so sure that`s a compliment... But how many grams of protein, carbs and fats are in your shakes?

[Yzfr1]

To be honest with you, I don't count protein, carbs, and fat. I just eat w/e, I'm skinny haha. Especially after I lost 20lbs from school and work.

I just try to eat everything I see. Forget about the bodybuilding forum comment haha.

[Ritch]

To be honest with you, I don't count protein, carbs, and fat. I just eat w/e, I'm skinny haha. Especially after I lost 20lbs from school and work.

I just try to eat everything I see. Forget about the bodybuilding forum comment haha.

Yikes, there`s your problem. I`m pretty sure if you got 100grams of carbs for 5 meals with 40 grams of protein then the last meal just protein and fats you`d gain some weight. People don`t plan to fail, they fail to plan which is what you`re doing now. But I understand how it`s a bitch to do this on a daily baisis, everyday. I wonder how I managed to do this for so long... Now I`m only eating 5 meals a day, just looking to maintain.

[Canadian Protein.com]

We send samples out for free to anyone who wishes to try us out...we also cover the shipping... :D


I'll try the other supplements if I order something for 100 bucks, so I don't have to pay like $10 to ship some samples. Thanks.

Thanks for the replies in the thread, I'm liking this forum already. :)
Canadian version of bodybuilding.com :) :cflag

[Timbo89]

Both products are similar but it's impossible that the main ingredient in the TS is whey isolate with 82 grams of the 150 gram serving size being carbs.

PH

thats incorrect. It is entirely possible. Because what if the carbs dont come from the same source? Then you will have to list them seperately making it possible to WPI to be the main ingredient.

[Yzfr1]

If that's the case, I'm going to order some samples and try them out myself. If I like it, I'll get some bulk orders. :)

Everyone looks like a beast in here. :bch

[Canadian Protein.com]

Yes, try out some samples and you be the judge bro. We offer free samples of our protein products and we take care of the shipping costs as well.... our mass gainer is a great product that a lot of guys have switched to from other weight gainers and are loving it!

Did you already send away for your samples?


If that's the case, I'm going to order some samples and try them out myself. If I like it, I'll get some bulk orders. :)

Everyone looks like a beast in here. :bch

[hyperlite32]

I would not question anything put out by TrueSupps. Simple.

[Yzfr1]

Will tryout the samples for sure.

How do I start off on counting nutritional values? Let say a banana?
I have lots of university work in science to deal with, or does it make me lazy not counting? haha. Thanks. :yeah

[Talo]

fitday.com

Free account will help you count your cals.

[NACanada]

thats incorrect. It is entirely possible. Because what if the carbs dont come from the same source? Then you will have to list them seperately making it possible to WPI to be the main ingredient.

That doesn't make any sense in this situation. If you were to look at it like that then the "protein complex" which consists of the 3 types of protein in this product would be counted separately and the WPI would be near the bottom...

Also, if you look at any other correctly labeled weight gainer the Carb source is always first. I'm not knocking TS at all. Sounds like they have a great product.

NI

Ingredients: Protein complex (Whey Isolate, Whey Concentrate, Calcium Casein), Maltodextrin, Crystalline fructose, (Chocolate Flavours Contain Cocoa Powder), Vegetable Fiber; Natural and Artificial Flavours.

[BlueStar]

That doesn't make any sense in this situation. If you were to look at it like that then the "protein complex" which consists of the 3 types of protein in this product would be counted separately and the WPI would be near the bottom...

Also, if you look at any other correctly labeled weight gainer the Carb source is always first. I'm not knocking TS at all. Sounds like they have a great product.

NI

Ingredients: Protein complex (Whey Isolate, Whey Concentrate, Calcium Casein), Maltodextrin, Crystalline fructose, (Chocolate Flavours Contain Cocoa Powder), Vegetable Fiber; Natural and Artificial Flavours.


I'm not going to look at all the labels etc...

but saying if its labelled correctly the Carb source is first is Incorrect..

If its something like 150 carb, 55 protein... and the Protein is listed first.. its becuase they're using shitty WPC 34 protein etc... so most of the carbs are lactose... Ie. It's labelled Whey Protein Concentrate...not by actual useable protein...

shitty gainers will use wpc 34.. better ones (more than likely with carbs first) will use wpc 80...

[NACanada]

I'm not going to look at all the labels etc...

but saying if its labelled correctly the Carb source is first is Incorrect..

If its something like 150 carb, 55 protein... and the Protein is listed first.. its becuase they're using shitty WPC 34 protein etc... so most of the carbs are lactose... Ie. It's labelled Whey Protein Concentrate...not by actual useable protein...

shitty gainers will use wpc 34.. better ones (more than likely with carbs first) will use wpc 80...


Yeah I agree with you. I shouldn't have said always...i meant more so products with the same marco ratios as the TS gainer.

So based on the N.I of the TS gainer my question to the manufacturers on this board is that some companies group all carbs together into a break down like this...

Clean-Carb™ Preblend [Vextrago™ Brand High Molecular Weight Carbohydrate (Mw 1,000,000 - 1,200,000; From Barley Starch), Maltodextrin, Levulose, Corn Solids, Inulin (From Chicory), Soy Fiber, Wheat Fiber], IsoStack10™ Protein Matrix Preblend [Multi-Whey Blend (CFM-92 And ISO-95 Whey Protein Isolate, WPC-85 And WPC-80 Whey Protein Concentrates, Whey-80P {Peptides}), Milk Protein Isolate, Micellar Casein, Calcium Caseinate, Fat Free Eggplete™ Egg White, & Fat Free Egg Yolk Protein Isolates], LipoTherm™ Super Sport Oil Problend [MCT (Medium Chain Triglycerides From Fractionated Coconut Oil), CLA From Sunflower Oil, Flax Seed Oil Powder, Borage Oil Powder], Cocoa, IntraSorb5 Calorie Uptake Preblend [Bio-Immune Colostrum (High Immunoglobulin, Lactoferrin, EGF, IGF-1 & IGF-2), Insu-Drive Complex (Alpha Lipoic Acid, D-Pinitol, Inositol, 4-Hydroxyisoleucine)], Natural Flavors, Sucralose, Soy Lecithin

Which is legally correct?

[BlueStar]

^looks fine to me for USA labels... you would have to list them highest to lowest dosage in each bracket as well..

[Canadian Protein.com]

Lots of companies consider their "protein mix" as their first ingredient and state that on their weight gainer labels. We grouped the protein together and consider our "Protein Complex" (hence the brackets) to be the main ingredient. You list everything in sequence without considering protein in it's entirety, however, we feel this way illustrates our formula best. Within the brackets is our "Protein Complex" breakdown from highest-lowest...Protein complex (Whey Isolate, Whey Concentrate, Calcium Casein)

PH: thanks for the props...I've sent some business your way for name brand products...hopefully they made a purchase :)

Note: We'll be switching the calcium casein with micellar casein very soon as economies of scale will allow us to offer an even better Mass Gainer! :D