Reusing the same needle for pulling.

[Memo]

Do you guys use the same needle for pulling the oil in the syringe, or you change both needle every time?

[CanadianIron]

Change it everytime.

Once that needle gets oil on it and passes through the air, you get air borne bacteria on it that can then grow.

I watched a show where they swabbed up an entire bathroom and almost every surface had a fecal bacteria count. Unless you pin in a hospital, dont do it.

[_Ragnar_]

I change everytime. at ten cents a pin its just not worth the risk

[tex]

id switch it out....only a shill would use the same pin over and over....and you aren't a shill.....are you?

[JonnyO]

Im a shill, thats why I DO IT. Never had an issue yet. I clean it before and after drawing each time.

[Avitoholis]

I do it too, unless i'm drawing from mutiple vials then i'll change it because the needle will become to dull. Like JonnyO said, never had an issue.

[theboss]

i use same pin to draw from multiple vials...then swap it when it goes to my skin!

[Memo]

I do it too, unless i'm drawing from mutiple vials then i'll change it because the needle will become to dull. Like JonnyO said, never had an issue.

Im using the same 16g needle to draw from from 2 vial and swape to a 25 and go.. I did 3 time so far with those 16. I will start switching every time now.

thanks

[C-money]

i use same pin to draw from multiple vials...then swap it when it goes to my skin!

x2.. nothing worse than a dull pin

[Memo]

i use same pin to draw from multiple vials...then swap it when it goes to my skin!

The boss did you have any problem in the past, and do you clean this drawing needle with alchool or something?

[theboss]

The boss did you have any problem in the past, and do you clean this drawing needle with alchool or something?

never a problem.....
clean the vial tops..
stick and go...

[PdH]

Once that needle gets oil on it and passes through the air, you get air borne bacteria on it that can then grow.

You're making a presumption that airborne bacteria will somehow adhere to a pin covered in oil opposed to a pin with no oil. Supporting literature? If I get an injection from a medical practitioner they don't change pins, nor do diabetics.

[baza]

You're making a presumption that airborne bacteria will somehow adhere to a pin covered in oil opposed to a pin with no oil. Supporting literature? If I get an injection from a medical practitioner they don't change pins, nor do diabetics.

lol. Yeah was a foolish post. What about when you take the old pin off and the open syringe is exposed to the air? lol

I used to switch, because I hate injecting and hate a dull pin. But I was running out of pins and started using the same one, and did it for the last 4weeks... because I'm cheap.

There's nothing wrong with doing it, minus the dulling of the pin. I'm very strict on using clean injection procedures.

If withdrawing from multiple vials I will change it though. Gets way too dull after two.

[waderow]

the pin change is for sharpness factor only

and of course the option to draw with a big 18ga or something for ease

[CanadianIron]

You're making a presumption that airborne bacteria will somehow adhere to a pin covered in oil opposed to a pin with no oil. Supporting literature? If I get an injection from a medical practitioner they don't change pins, nor do diabetics.

I was assuming the OP was talking about pinning, putting the pin back and using its again a few days later. I wasnt talking about drawing from multiple vials at the same time.

If the gear contains a food based oil its going to give bacteria a place to grow, not that it will attract airborn bacteria, simply that it would give it a place to live. I cant imagine bacteria colonizing on a sterile pin, a pin covered in plant based oil... I can. I guess I was assuming the OP was asking if he could use the same pin for like 12 weeks.

[MikeyFXD35]

Never change the needle, doctor don't change needles. nurses don't change needles. Having said that I am pull from 2 vials now and have notice that they are a little less sharp so in this case I might look at it next time.

[CanadianIron]

OP needs to specify what he's talkin about.

I've yet to see a doctor use a needle that wasnt sealed in plastic to draw with. Of course they use a new needle everytime they draw, would you want them to draw with the same needle all day?

[ironwill]

I buy about 10 -18 guage needles for a box of 23 guage needle/syringe combos...

I use the 18 to draw, remove it, put it in 70 percent rubbing alcohol, wipe it down, i put a couple of drops into the plastic end, ...Put the new 23 guage on the filled needle, inject.....
I then get a new syringe, open it, draw back fill with air, put the alcohol cleaned 18 guage back on, push air and alcohol from the plastic end through the needle, wipe off with alcohol once again, place cap back on, and store with my goods ready for next draw...I use this one 18g for quite awhile, and then switch to a new 18 guage when the time comes...
IMO if you are cleaning and storing your draw needle it should be fine...I have done this since day 1, never have had an issue yet.....-

[ironwill]

OP needs to specify what he's talkin about.

I've yet to see a doctor use a needle that wasnt sealed in plastic to draw with. Of course they use a new needle everytime they draw, would you want them to draw with the same needle all day?
docs do a lot of things different than BBs....They draw and inject with the same needle, compromising the edge once gone through rubber...They also put about 2-3 ccs of oil into our bodies in a matter of seconds, not nice and slow like we do.....
Some of us draw with a needle, and then switch after going through the rubber stopper to a fresh one for a nice sharp edge..

[GYMBRAT]

I buy about 10 -18 guage needles for a box of 23 guage needle/syringe combos...

I use the 18 to draw, remove it, put it in 70 percent rubbing alcohol, wipe it down, i put a couple of drops into the plastic end, ...Put the new 23 guage on the filled needle, inject.....
I then get a new syringe, open it, draw back fill with air, put the alcohol cleaned 18 guage back on, push air and alcohol from the plastic end through the needle, wipe off with alcohol once again, place cap back on, and store with my goods ready for next draw...I use this one 18g for quite awhile, and then switch to a new 18 guage when the time comes...
IMO if you are cleaning and storing your draw needle it should be fine...I have done this since day 1, never have had an issue yet.....-

my same procedure to a T IW, pins are cheap$

[champcar99]

I draw using a new needle ...toss it... wipe injection area,then place new needle to inject

[faller]

I put my vials in the sink with hot water, have my shower, draw with an 18g, toss it in an empty protien container and put the 25g on, pin, toss, go and have supper. Pins are cheap, i'm takeing no chances whatsoever, not worth it.

[GYMBRAT]

^^ been using the empty protein container for yrs also, just duct tape it up and it works perfect!

[Mr Ontario]

Draw with 18 gauge, use clean 25 gauge head to shoot :)


the pin change is for sharpness factor only

and of course the option to draw with a big 18ga or something for ease

[tiramisu]

I want to minimize the build up of scar tissue and I also want to minimize the possibility of infection.

18 gauge draw, 25 gauge inject. I can't think of a good reason not to use 2 pins.

[GYMBRAT]

me too^ as said earlier, they are cheap :)

[Mr Ontario]

as for the 18 gauge to draw....sorry I don't throw that one out...I keep it,, squirt the remaining oil that may be left in the 18 gauge head out over a garbage can and put the 18 gauge head in a zip lock bag for next time. NEVER ever had an issue or an infection. note...I will though throw the 18 gauge head out and use a new every week or so often.


I want to minimize the build up of scar tissue and I also want to minimize the possibility of infection.

18 gauge draw, 25 gauge inject. I can't think of a good reason not to use 2 pins.

[Kronis]

If it's from one vial I use the same one. If it's multiple draws then I swap.

This was recommended to me by a pharmacist when I was buying b12.

[Memo]

I buy about 10 -18 guage needles for a box of 23 guage needle/syringe combos...

I use the 18 to draw, remove it, put it in 70 percent rubbing alcohol, wipe it down, i put a couple of drops into the plastic end, ...Put the new 23 guage on the filled needle, inject.....
I then get a new syringe, open it, draw back fill with air, put the alcohol cleaned 18 guage back on, push air and alcohol from the plastic end through the needle, wipe off with alcohol once again, place cap back on, and store with my goods ready for next draw...I use this one 18g for quite awhile, and then switch to a new 18 guage when the time comes...
IMO if you are cleaning and storing your draw needle it should be fine...I have done this since day 1, never have had an issue yet.....-

This is what I was doing..

[manfreakca]

i use the same one i just clean it after ever pull with alcohol

[Kilburn]

i use the same needle for drawing and shooting. the switching thing is a BS waste of time.

[INked]

x2.. nothing worse than a dull pin****'in eh on that!Makes that crunchy snappy sound as it tears through the meat!

[bongd]

Never change the needle, doctor don't change needles. nurses don't change needles. Having said that I am pull from 2 vials now and have notice that they are a little less sharp so in this case I might look at it next time.

And their patients being pinned may only get pinned once a year... maybe just once ever few years. Some people only get one or two needles in their entire lifetime. Some of us pin everyday... HUGE difference ;)

[nisser]

as for the 18 gauge to draw....sorry I don't throw that one out...I keep it,, squirt the remaining oil that may be left in the 18 gauge head out over a garbage can and put the 18 gauge head in a zip lock bag for next time. NEVER ever had an issue or an infection. note...I will though throw the 18 gauge head out and use a new every week or so often.

buddy did you just say you put a used pin in a ziplock bag and then reuse it later? It's late but I think that's what I'm reading lol

[gsxr750]

I use the same needle to draw and inject. 25 guage. If you heat up the oil prior, and heat up the rubber stopper via the steam method it goes through like butter.

[kloan]

as for the 18 gauge to draw....sorry I don't throw that one out...I keep it,, squirt the remaining oil that may be left in the 18 gauge head out over a garbage can and put the 18 gauge head in a zip lock bag for next time. NEVER ever had an issue or an infection. note...I will though throw the 18 gauge head out and use a new every week or so often.
pins are cheap, why reuse the same one?

what im really wondering though, why squirt the remaining oil into the garbage when you can draw it into the syringe before you swap with the 25g? that's .1ml you're wasting every time.. it adds up.

[BAM]

pins are cheap, why reuse the same one?



X2

[Robobrob]

Agreed with most everyone... pins so cheap, why take the extra chance of introducing infection?

[Memo]

pins are cheap, why reuse the same one?

what im really wondering though, why squirt the remaining oil into the garbage when you can draw it into the syringe before you swap with the 25g? that's .1ml you're wasting every time.. it adds up.

yeah.

[fireflyer]

I've been using the same pin to draw and inject for years. Anyone on here actually ever get an infection and want to explain what they think they did wrong? I mean are we all just speculating or does someone have a horror story to say what the risks really are? That said I never use the same pin if it was more than one vial. Did it once - dull pins suck so bad.

[bongd]

I've been using the same pin to draw and inject for years. Anyone on here actually ever get an infection and want to explain what they think they did wrong? I mean are we all just speculating or does someone have a horror story to say what the risks really are? That said I never use the same pin if it was more than one vial. Did it once - dull pins suck so bad.

I don't think drawing and pinning with the same syringe put people at a higher margin of risk for infection. If they're using shitty gear, the infection will come anyway.

The only reason why I do it is to minimize pain and to stave scar tissue. I have thick skin being a Filipino so I need all the sharpness I can get lol... but also, I get scar tissue easily. I've only done a few smaller cycles with long acting injectables, and near the end of my cycles I can feel scar tissue building up. Crunching and cracking is not a fun when you're injecting.

I have some friends that pin like they're made of butter (despite being hard and ripped) and others who can't tolerate it so well. Aside from the displacement in the muscle that oils create, pinning is fine for me. I just become a little worse off as my cycle progresses. I'm switching pins for whatever pocket change it ends up costing me in the end.

[Big D]

****'in eh on that!Makes that crunchy snappy sound as it tears through the meat!

I never got used to that sound