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daande
22-09-2009, 05:05 PM
So I have been off for 4 or 5 weeks currently on my last week of PCT 50mg clomid 20mg Nolvadex right now ED....However, ever since I have been on PCT for the past 3 weeks or so I have felt like complete shit...I am wondering if this is from the clomid? I am sooo horny to the point where I can nut off all day long but I have no drive to workout or really do anything.... Making it to the gym is a huge chore and requires me to push myself sooo much while there. I am wondering if I can drop all PCT products now as I only have about 5 days left of nolva/clomid and I am soo horny I think I am good to go. If you think I should stay on the pct for the last 5 days could I cut out clomid now? I am wondering if my feeling tired / shitty all the time is the depression side effect of clomid? My buddy who I did a cycle with just ran hcg and nolva for pct and he is feeling great. I ran nolva clomid and hcg and I am feeling crappy almost like I have a head cold and cannot think! Any ideas, suggestions or words of wisdom are greatly appreciated! Also, no i will not split this post up into paragraphs.

tiramisu
22-09-2009, 05:09 PM
Yup, that's the clomid and that's why I don't use it for pct. It turns you into a pissy girl.

daande
22-09-2009, 05:15 PM
I dont feel like a pissy girl though I am:

-Tired all the time except when sleeping
-No motivation to do anything except beat off
-I find it harder than normal to think so school work is impossible

It almost feels like a head flu. Should I may get back on lipoex for energy until clomid is out of my system should take 5 days. I am dropping it today. Any other suggestions?

EDIT: For instance today I drank 2 coffees and a redbull and I dont have any energy.

theboss
22-09-2009, 05:15 PM
clomid is good for me!
maybe your body just dont like it....i say drop the clomid..continue the nolva

GYMBRAT
22-09-2009, 05:16 PM
x2^.....gosta be the clomid bro, and thats why I hate the shit :)

daande
22-09-2009, 05:18 PM
Any other suggestions? I currently take megamen sport 2x a day. I thought about upping that to like 3x a day i dunno.

daande
22-09-2009, 05:20 PM
I thought it was coming off the T3/clen that let me feeling like this. I stopped clen like 2 weeks ago and the T3 was stopped last week after a 3 week taper down.

Ritch
22-09-2009, 05:21 PM
Alot of people are sick right now, maybe you`re just sick...

daande
22-09-2009, 05:23 PM
Alot of people are sick right now, maybe you`re just sick...

I thought I was sick but I have no other symptoms. I have no sore throat, ears, runny nose, I had a fever yesterday but thats the only flu like symptom other than the head cold part. I have felt like this for like 2 weeks also I highly doubt I could be sick for that long. I wish I could flush clomid out of the body asap.

baza
22-09-2009, 05:23 PM
I've been taking Cold Fusion EX from LG sciences, and I have felt great in and out of the gym. I think a creatine/no2 product work well post cycle.
As I posted on another forum, you have great energy in the gym.
Great pumps leaving you 'full', great focus and intensity, and also possibly increase in strength.
I think it's perfect for PCT and the mental aspect of it.

daande
22-09-2009, 05:27 PM
I have creatine should I start taking it?

GYMBRAT
22-09-2009, 05:28 PM
.....wouldn't hurt to give it a try

marino
22-09-2009, 05:58 PM
Daande I am on an identical PCT and right now I am dying in the gym no motivation but I chase the wife around the house all day. Couple more weeks PCT will be done then I will see how the energy to train is

daande
22-09-2009, 06:02 PM
Daande I am on an identical PCT and right now I am dying in the gym no motivation but I chase the wife around the house all day. Couple more weeks PCT will be done then I will see how the energy to train is

drop the clomid i think its he culprit. I will never do clomid again. I will let u guys know how I start to feel in the next few days as I am dropping the clomid today.

nitrous
22-09-2009, 06:50 PM
very curious to know how you feel after you drop it.. i started clomid today

Redz
22-09-2009, 07:05 PM
I find Clomid should be used no higher than 50mg daily at most, I run it like that for 2 weeks then 25mg for 2 more. I recover very well with the nolva/clomid combo myself.

kloan
22-09-2009, 07:28 PM
I felt like crap during my PCT and I was only on Nolva..... I think it just goes with the territory.

marino
22-09-2009, 07:30 PM
drop the clomid i think its he culprit. I will never do clomid again. I will let u guys know how I start to feel in the next few days as I am dropping the clomid today.

Post in a couple of days and let us know if the energy comes back

Ritch
22-09-2009, 10:44 PM
I have creatine should I start taking it?

Of course! Maybe some beta-alanine as well.

tiramisu
22-09-2009, 10:49 PM
My last pct was nolva only 40/40/20/20 and I felt pretty darn good through out.

z83
22-09-2009, 11:58 PM
you've dropped many stimulants/fat burners + your in PCT

I felt the same last PCT and was on ephedrine. Never again i'll take this shit

CanadianIron
23-09-2009, 12:02 AM
My last pct was nolva only 40/40/20/20 and I felt pretty darn good through out.

^ what he said. Ive take Nolva only my last cycles and I didnt experience the slightest bit of what you're describing. People always seem to complain about Clomid.

daande
23-09-2009, 01:38 PM
So I am also sick atm. Probably from being at a smashup derby on the weekend and not having a winter jacket on. Note: I have only felt sick for 2 days with a fever. The last 3 weeks I have been tired and unmotivated. I get a pretty high fever and take 2 advils and pass out wake up and feel better. Hopefully as I am not taking anymore clomid anymore I will start feeling better today/tomorrow.

Note: Placebo effect? I am already starting to feel better I usually took the clomid first thing in the morning. I never took it today and I feel abit more motivated nothing major. I took 16mg of ephedrine so I could make it through this class without falling asleep hopefully that plus this coffee keep me awake lol.

Edit #2: http://chealth.canoe.ca/drug_info_details.asp?channel_id=0&relation_id=0&brand_name_id=717&page_no=2 <-alot of side effects

daande
24-09-2009, 04:10 PM
Day 2 of no clomid and I am starting to feel better. Still really tired but abit more motived I managed to do an assignment for school today it was done shitty but yesterday I could of not done it at all.

z83
24-09-2009, 04:54 PM
imo, you should take the clomid before bed, that's what I do

AlbertaBeef
24-09-2009, 04:55 PM
I just finished my pct and the clomid damn near did me in. I had lots of energy and drive but absolutely no sexual desire at all, the wife was choked (no, she does not know of my aas use). I pretty much have very low emotional intensity but it was higher. Stopped clomid and on the 2nd day horny and not giving a s.h.i.t. about anything again, I'm happy but I'm starting to hate clomid.

gicantor
24-09-2009, 05:23 PM
Clomid is the devils drug, I will never use that shit again. Ever.

daande
24-09-2009, 06:45 PM
I was feeling pretty ****ing low on clomid things are looking up again hopefully I can make it to the gym tomorrow

theboss
24-09-2009, 07:13 PM
I was feeling pretty ****ing low on clomid things are looking up again hopefully I can make it to the gym tomorrow

good luck bro....clomid has never made me feel that crappy

daande
24-09-2009, 07:27 PM
good luck bro....clomid has never made me feel that crappy

Never have I ever felt this shitty before. I now have a greater respect for people who suffer from depression.

vakker
24-09-2009, 08:47 PM
clomid actually gives me suicidal thoughts.

daande
24-09-2009, 10:57 PM
clomid actually gives me suicidal thoughts.

I could see it.

KoN
24-09-2009, 11:12 PM
Could it make it that worse, really? For some of us unfortunately those thoughts are the norm. Perhaps the people who are having bad sides are more on the 'cheery' side?

daande
24-09-2009, 11:24 PM
Could it make it that worse, really? For some of us unfortunately those thoughts are the norm. Perhaps the people who are having bad sides are more on the 'cheery' side?

Ive never felt like shit like this before..At first I thought maybe it was just coming off the test but I talked to some people who felt fine that were running only nolva. Hence why I decided to drop the clomid. I cant wait for a few more days until it out of my system.

Memo
25-09-2009, 01:24 AM
clomid actually gives me suicidal thoughts.

I used clomid for a hdrol pct, and almost quit my job because i became so emotional.

daande
25-09-2009, 02:46 PM
Day 3 of no clomid and what a world of difference! I wish I never did clomid or stayed on it this long.

theboss
25-09-2009, 02:49 PM
live and learn daande........everyone has to learn what works for them...and what doesnt.

GYMBRAT
25-09-2009, 03:48 PM
I figured clomid was the culprit in your pct downer bro.....good to hear your feeling better though man!

daande
25-09-2009, 03:59 PM
I figured clomid was the culprit in your pct downer bro.....good to hear your feeling better though man!

Way better...

Danger
25-09-2009, 04:02 PM
Awesome, PCT sucks enough without having to worry about something like Clomid messing with your head. Glad to hear everything is back on track!

nisser
25-09-2009, 04:43 PM
Day 3 of no clomid and what a world of difference! I wish I never did clomid or stayed on it this long.

It was all in your head. Clomid has a longer half-life; 3 days is not long enough to clear from your system.

daande
26-09-2009, 02:22 AM
It was all in your head. Clomid has a longer half-life; 3 days is not long enough to clear from your system.

No I know how I feel. I wish it was all in my head. Also, I was only running 50mg ED therefore it would have cleared quicker.

deleteduser0002
26-09-2009, 01:26 PM
. Clomid has a longer half-life; 3 days is not long enough to clear from your system.


Yep, half life of 5 days.

overboost
26-09-2009, 07:47 PM
cant wait to start my pct next week with clomid ;-P
Granted I have used it a few times before and while yeah it can make you emotional and a bit of a baby I never felt as bad as some of you guys. Maybe this time I will though haha. ****in PCT eh boys, how nice it would be to stay on forever.

GYMBRAT
26-09-2009, 08:38 PM
how nice it would be to stay on forever.

and who says one can't :) :hu