How much to draw?

[CanadianIron]

My previous test injections have all been from Amps, this cycle is my first time using UGL vial gear.

I used a 20g pin to draw up just past the 1ml mark on a 3ml syringe, i switched to a 25g needle, tapped and pushed out the air and I was a couple ticks below 1ml but I figured, first injection, its ok if its a bit under 250mg.

However, what is your proceedure to make sure you're getting the right amount of gear in your syringe and you arent wasting any? How far up should i draw and should i switch back to my drawing pin after I inject and push the gear stuck in the syringe back into the vial?

[C-money]

after awhile you can just eyeball it and get it pretty much exact... i have no special procedures.. you just know

[waderow]

draw to 1cc
remove needle from vial
clear needle by drawing air into syringe
change needle
push out air

voila

[CanadianIron]

Sounds good, ill try again friday.

It so nice to have 20G needles for this cycle. Last cycle i was heating my amps and drawing with 25G needles... totally retarded. Draws so fast with 20G needles.

[juced_porkchop]

i use 22-23g to draw so not to poke big holes in stopper. 20g should be fine to..
i wouldent use bigger thow.

[GYMBRAT]

draw to 1cc
remove needle from vial
clear needle by drawing air into syringe
change needle
push out air

voila

x2, and use 18-20g to draw with also...I'm very impatient!

[punkrock]

22.5g was fast enough for me when drawing from the vial. I'm inpatient when the needle is in so I even inject with the 22.5g needle. Doesn't feel any different, but I get sweaty and hot the longer the needle is in haha.

[kloan]

Hey, I just thought of this...

People were saying to draw to 1.1cc to make up for the .1cc that gets stuck in the tip.. but wouldn't the manufacturers already have taken that into consideration when they mark the cc's on the syringe?

[gsxr750]

Use the air-lock and Z-track technique, safe as long as you aspirate :)

[Gemini]

Wasn't there a sticky on injection for beginners?

[GYMBRAT]

it's not rocket science guys lol, just sucker back and injecter :-P

[CanadianIron]

What about the juice left in the syringe after you depress the plunger all the way?

If I remove the needle I injected with, and put the drawing needle back on, sucked in some air, shouldnt I be able to push that small amount of gear back into the vial? After 5 weeks of using the same vial, you'd probably save more than a whole ml of gear. I cant see a contamination issue unless you depress the plunger too hard when injecting and suck some blood back into the syringe.

[gsxr750]

^^ Dude just add .2cc of air to the syringe before you pull the oil. The air-lock method. Make sure you aspirate, this tiny bit of air at the end will push out any remaining oil into you, and is no problem in the muscle.

"If you left a tenth of an ml of air in the syringe when you drew the T into the syringe you can use that air to push the remainder of the T into your muscle, and to decrease bleeding and seepage of T out of the hole. In nursing, this is called an ‘air lock’ and is a common technique to make shots bleed less"

http://www.octcca.org/inject.htm

[CanadianIron]

Something to try. So you pretty much just draw the oil, tap the syringe and let the air stay against the plunger? I've always thought any air was dangerous.

[vakker]

only if you are shooting it into your vein. please don't shoot it into your vein.

[Delt King]

^^ Dude just add .2cc of air to the syringe before you pull the oil. The air-lock method. Make sure you aspirate, this tiny bit of air at the end will push out any remaining oil into you, and is no problem in the muscle.

"If you left a tenth of an ml of air in the syringe when you drew the T into the syringe you can use that air to push the remainder of the T into your muscle, and to decrease bleeding and seepage of T out of the hole. In nursing, this is called an ‘air lock’ and is a common technique to make shots bleed less"

http://www.octcca.org/inject.htm

Been doing this for years and i never tried that yet...thanks, i'm gonna try this method tonight.:a+

[CanadianIron]

only if you are shooting it into your vein. please don't shoot it into your vein.

Are you kidding? Ive been injecting into the crack of my elbow for years now?


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JK!

[Mr Ontario]

I use 18 gauge as well....never had any issues with rubber stopper in bottle,if you angle it right, no problems :)


x2, and use 18-20g to draw with also...I'm very impatient!

[GYMBRAT]

I use 18 gauge as well....never had any issues with rubber stopper in bottle,if you angle it right, no problems :)

yeah here neither, quick and easy ;)

[CanadianIron]

I was watching a clip about the swine flu on the news last night and the people doing vaccinations were flipping the vials up side down to draw, you guys do that?

[C-money]

thats how youre supposed to do it brah^^^

[GYMBRAT]

I was watching a clip about the swine flu on the news last night and the people doing vaccinations were flipping the vials up side down to draw, you guys do that?



lol, yes just be sure and keep the pin in the solution to avoid the air ;)

[CanadianIron]

Thats why you ask.

You cant do that with an amp!

[BAM]

Seems like an insignificant amount to be worried about.

(shrug)

[daande]

http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to/video/how-to-administer-an-intramuscular-z-track-injection-235258/