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A friend of mine just finished 3 weeks ago a cycle of Pheraplex and halodrol, those are 2 methylated compound. He did some kind of transition using pplex at 30mg the first two weeks, and using the third week 20mg and introducing 50mg a day of hdrol and using 25mg of hdrol for the last week.
Anyway.. the result were pretty good. But its not the point.
Now he is 3 weeks into his pct, nolvadex. But he is telling me that his urine is very dark yellow almost brownish.
He was using NAC & ALA during the cycle and still his. His water intake is pretty high so he is not dehydrated.
He think his liver might be the problem. The last week of his cycle, this problem started.
Should he go to a doctor?
id say its his kidneys. see a doctor.
theboss
20-09-2009, 09:00 AM
i experienced that when i took a PH.....i assumed kidneys as well.....never again!
try cranberry extract supplement, or real juice...but yes go to the doctor
bigtavi8
20-09-2009, 10:30 AM
Not good but ya if you just make a quick stop at the docs its all confidential so no worries. Is he taking supervitamins becuase soemtimes that can make your piss stinky and funny colours.
ubcpower
20-09-2009, 10:32 AM
Get a blood test. ALT, AST, Bilrubin levels checked asap
Not good but ya if you just make a quick stop at the docs its all confidential so no worries. Is he taking supervitamins becuase soemtimes that can make your piss stinky and funny colours.
he is not taking multi, and pee was looking better yesterday night.
bongd
22-09-2009, 09:31 PM
He'll probably recover, but he should get some blood work just to be on the safe side. You never know if you'll end up having a genetic predisposition to some sort of illness.
Orals really mess me up as well. Although my liver and kidney values are perfectly fine, just 3 days of m1t sent me to the emergency room in writhing agony. Even lighter, human grade orals made my stomach and trunk hurt. It BLOWS!!! :(
kloan
22-09-2009, 09:47 PM
you guys are making me nervous.. im taking epistane for 4 weeks.. approaching 2 weeks but so far so good....
you guys are making me nervous.. im taking epistane for 4 weeks.. approaching 2 weeks but so far so good....
Dont forget he stack PPLEX & HDROL, and started the cycle at pretty high dosage...
bongd
25-09-2009, 01:11 PM
you guys are making me nervous.. im taking epistane for 4 weeks.. approaching 2 weeks but so far so good....
It's all good, man. Epistane is a very light compound. You can take 40mg ED for a month without running into problems.
Even I was able to tolerate this. m1t and SD not so much.. now I'm at the point where 10mg of Anavar or 25mg of Winstrol will make my trunk hurt and my stomach very upset.
Got scans, blood work, everything... I think it might be kidney or gallstones. Sucks that I can't take orals anymore.
kloan
28-09-2009, 07:43 PM
That is unfortunate. Our kidneys and liver are so important, really not worth the risk running orals. This run of Epi is the only time I think I'll use orals, I'm going to stick with injectables only.
fireflyer
30-09-2009, 06:14 PM
That is unfortunate. Our kidneys and liver are so important, really not worth the risk running orals. This run of Epi is the only time I think I'll use orals, I'm going to stick with injectables only.
Exactly! Screw orals! My liver hurts just thinking about them. Hope the guy is ok and just pins the next cycle. Not saying any AAS is good for your organs but there's a huge difference. IMO
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