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JaSIM3
20-09-2009, 02:22 AM
I have decieded to do a cycle of test prop only. 400mg a week. But I would like to taper down with it whats the best way to do it 400,300,200,100?

This is how my cycle looks like ? Any thought thanx
Test 400 mg 1-6 week
arimedex .5mg 1-6 week
hcg 3x week 150iu 1-6 week

pct of clomid and nolvadex

Memo
20-09-2009, 02:27 AM
I have decieded to do a cycle of test prop only. 400mg a week. But I would like to taper down with it whats the best way to do it 400,300,200,100?

This is how my cycle looks like ? Any thought thanx
Test 400 mg 1-6 week
arimedex .5mg 1-6 week
hcg 3x week 150iu 1-6 week

pct of clomid and nolvadex

how much gain such a short cycle usually give?

BAM
20-09-2009, 02:54 AM
6 week cycle?

why bother?

deleteduser0001
20-09-2009, 12:30 PM
dont taper your doses bro, keep it at the same dose all the way through

Rex

I disagree, kinda. If you are going to do a longer cycle of prop, you should taper (make your shots less mg so it tapers over a week or so) but with a 6 week cycle, not worth the taper.

GYMBRAT
20-09-2009, 12:54 PM
not being a dick but it's a waist of gear/time/$ imo, you could run it for 6 wks but with a long ester test as well for 12 wks and then you'd be gtg ;) and yes taper down from wk to wk towards the end as well!...with the long ester test sorry :)

O-Train
20-09-2009, 01:16 PM
The whole thing doesn't make much sense to me. You MUST inject Prop at least every day so how are you dividing 400mg by 7? Tapering w/ Test Prop makes even less sense (especially with these dosages). It's out of your system so fast, just keep the hormone levels stable.

Look at the blood levels, I assumed 60mg/day or 420mg/wk:

Day 1: 60mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 2: 102.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 3: 132.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 4: 153.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 5: 168.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 6: 179.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 7: 186.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 8: 192mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 9: 195.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 10: 198.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 11: 200.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 12: 201.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 13: 202.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 14: 203.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 15: 203.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 16: 204.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 17: 204.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 18: 204.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 19: 204.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 20: 204.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 21: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 22: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 23: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 24: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 25: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 26: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 27: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 28: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 29: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 30: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 31: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 32: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 33: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 34: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 35: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 36: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 37: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 38: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 39: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 40: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 41: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 42: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 43: 204.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 44: 144.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 45: 102.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T - Start PCT

O-Train
20-09-2009, 01:25 PM
^^^ I messed up, it was supposed to start on Day 0 not day 1 ^^^

How about .25ml/day @ 250mg/ml = 62.5mg/day or 437.5mg/wk

I like playing with numbers. No need to taper, there is no point.

GYMBRAT
20-09-2009, 01:26 PM
still interesting stuff to me ^ though it still seems tapering has worked well for me in my past experiences.

O-Train
20-09-2009, 01:33 PM
still interesting stuff to me ^ though it still seems tapering has worked well for me in my past experiences.

It depends on the dose. Long esters will self taper. With Prop, having a short half life tapering could be beneficial. Although it depends on the dose. This is all just my opinion and others will know better but I think with such a low dose there isn't much harm w/o tapering. I'll show you what happens w/ the same compound, and duration but 4x dose/day:

Day 1: 426.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 2: 551.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 3: 640.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 4: 702.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 5: 746.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 6: 778.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 7: 800.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 8: 815.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 9: 826.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 10: 834.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 11: 840.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 12: 844.1mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 13: 846.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 14: 848.9mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 15: 850.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 16: 851.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 17: 852mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 18: 852.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 19: 852.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 20: 853mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 21: 853.2mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 22: 853.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 23: 853.4mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 24: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 25: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 26: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 27: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 28: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 29: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 30: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 31: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 32: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 33: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 34: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 35: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 36: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 37: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 38: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 39: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 40: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 41: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 42: 853.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 43: 603.5mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 44: 426.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 45: 301.7mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 46: 213.3mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 47: 150.8mg T, 0mg E/D/T
Day 48: 106.6mg T, 0mg E/D/T - Start PCT

In this scenario there is a large drop in blood T levels so yes, tapering would be beneficial. Just my opinion.

PdH
20-09-2009, 01:41 PM
though it still seems tapering has worked well for me in my past experiences.

Agreed. There is a significant difference in recovery when tapering is utilized, though, as Hurley stated, it is dose dependent.

To the OP, if you want to do a short run, have you considered 8 weeks on suspension pinning 2x ED. I think you'd find it pretty effective.

JaSIM3
20-09-2009, 06:36 PM
Agreed. There is a significant difference in recovery when tapering is utilized, though, as Hurley stated, it is dose dependent.

To the OP, if you want to do a short run, have you considered 8 weeks on suspension pinning 2x ED. I think you'd find it pretty effective.

What I have heard and read test suspension is not for me its usually for more experienced users. So do you guys think 400mg eod for 6 weeks is effective because my cycles never go over 6 weeks i usually have a hard time recovering but i noticed with orals i recovery easily so im decieding to do short ester test cause i want it in and out of my system easily

tex
21-09-2009, 06:06 AM
if you want to do a short 4-6 weeks cycle for some good mass i wouldnt dismiss suspension + an oral......like dbol or even drol.....a serious change in your physique in a short period of time......or even suspension + tren a......holy shit that would be the tits/cocks (not sure your sexual orientation and want to be pc ;) )