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MuSuLPhReAk
18-09-2009, 01:05 PM
Ok, been watching this close lately and noticing that it's causing a lot of friction between members so it's time I step in and do something about it.

As always I'll ask for your idea's on how you think we can handle it. I have a few suggestions.

1-Remove all ug talk off the site
2-Leave it as is and have the members filter out the good and the bad.
3-Create a private section by invitation only on votes and select criteria like time on the sites, reputation, conduct, fairness etc... This would be closed off to unknowns until they earn their stripes. This will avoid the guys registering just to bash a lab, lab wars, and pushing a lab for personal reasons. The member can be voted on, and can be voted off if a member decides to put him up for an expulsion vote.

Any more idea's or feedback from all of you will be welcome. It's not as if this info is easy to come by and one doesn't know who they can really trust so infighting will defeat the purpose of trying to help eachother acquire knowledge and know what's good and what's not.

oster
18-09-2009, 01:09 PM
I think its fine as is, your always going to have this problem I don't think there is really much you can do about it...

lambchops
18-09-2009, 01:10 PM
private section, perhaps viewable by all but only those in can post.

or leave it as is. its pretty obvious when someone has 1-10 posts and starts talking about a lab and how their friend is blowing up off it etc...

Robobrob
18-09-2009, 01:10 PM
Coming from a CBB nublet... I'd like to see #3 as long as the nubs still have access to the forum (no posting power).

Nubcake over and out

IronRobi
18-09-2009, 01:15 PM
I like #3

Memo
18-09-2009, 01:16 PM
3 is fair

Ritch
18-09-2009, 01:19 PM
#3

mr.niceguy
18-09-2009, 01:23 PM
number 1

GYMBRAT
18-09-2009, 01:26 PM
#3 would prob be best

z83
18-09-2009, 01:26 PM
i'd say 2

ironwill
18-09-2009, 01:39 PM
I personally like 3

Slevin
18-09-2009, 01:41 PM
Number 3.

troy_trinity
18-09-2009, 01:49 PM
idk about #3.... I always read here but don't post often.... I like to know what's going on with some of the Canadian UG labs...

I'm a very active member on other sites but just don't feel the need to post when there are already 10 ppl who have answered the question- which is pretty much always the case here.

Idk- I think you'd kind of be depriving some members if you made it #3... I'd say just let shit fly- everyone knows whats going on when someone with a post count of 5 comes on and starts bashing a lab when they just joined 2 days ago...

deleteduser0002
18-09-2009, 01:51 PM
I vote for #3 as well.

waderow
18-09-2009, 02:01 PM
#3 would slow CBB's growth, but would definitely help keep the UG's more low key. Especially when you have ****ing retards on other sites naming names etc.

#8
18-09-2009, 02:03 PM
#3

baza
18-09-2009, 02:06 PM
#1, but don't let reps talk about their brand lol, it's pretty annoying.
#3 will be just too hard to maintain and control.

RagingRandy
18-09-2009, 02:07 PM
#3 but I do not think it needs to be private. Just a section to control the rants so they do not mess up legit threads.

nitrous
18-09-2009, 02:17 PM
#3.. private for sure

nisser
18-09-2009, 02:27 PM
#3

or #2

The shills that sign up only to bash are only influencing the newbie members and that's bad imo.

Krozone
18-09-2009, 02:39 PM
Leave as is...

tiramisu
18-09-2009, 02:46 PM
The quality of the lab talk is usually ... is x gtg? ... yes , but their t400 hurst when I inject it in my rectum.

The only downside of #1 would be the removal of some minor personal entertainment.
I also vote for the removal of pornography. There's plenty on the internet already.

musclehead123
18-09-2009, 04:40 PM
2,

Someone like myself will probably never earn their stripes, just because I don't post that often. But I'd still like to know if such and such lab is good to go....and I would like to tell my experiences about any labs if its being asked about.

meathead
18-09-2009, 05:13 PM
Number 3!

MikeyFXD35
18-09-2009, 05:21 PM
#3

tex
18-09-2009, 05:30 PM
3

C-money
18-09-2009, 05:57 PM
Doesnt matter to me

Mikesomass
18-09-2009, 06:19 PM
even though i have dick all for post count, and would have to "earn my stripes" i like #3

slick rick
18-09-2009, 06:49 PM
#3 gets my vote.. trusted members only.

tiramisu
18-09-2009, 06:59 PM
wtf is a "trusted member" ? That doesn't make sense in so many ways.

gsxr750
18-09-2009, 07:03 PM
#1

theboss
18-09-2009, 07:14 PM
i think # 3...

but in the end whatever you decide is going to be fine for us all MP....it is your site and however you think to run it.

we all want the site to grow but i hate new guys coming in and posting about this lab being great and that lab being bunk...especially when some people probably have multiple logins....

slick rick
18-09-2009, 07:27 PM
wtf is a "trusted member" ? That doesn't make sense in so many ways.

i'm not sure how many ways there are to look at it, trusted members.. as MP said, guys that have been around and are solid members of the board, not members posting with agendas.

Diesel_250
18-09-2009, 07:54 PM
I am for a private section

deleteduser0001
18-09-2009, 08:04 PM
i'm not sure how many ways there are to look at it, trusted members.. as MP said, guys that have been around and are solid members of the board, not members posting with agendas.

which is tough, because how do you prove an agenda?

I think just keeping it all off the board is best, i think it would become a liability if you kept it open or even hush hush.

punkrock
18-09-2009, 08:07 PM
wtf is a "trusted member" ? That doesn't make sense in so many ways.

x2


I don't know how all this plans on playing out. Everyone seems to have their own opinions, and for the majority of the time most people don't do the same cycle each time with a different ugl.

deleteduser0001
18-09-2009, 08:17 PM
wtf is a "trusted member" ? That doesn't make sense in so many ways.

you know, its the guys that already PM each other and really have no need for a formal board section

giannos
18-09-2009, 09:58 PM
#1

Remove all UGL talk. People in the know already can PM other members if they want info. We also have BAM's social group

If you want CBB to grow in a positive direction, IMO you should remove all UGL talk and pics like it once was...

lotsoftime
18-09-2009, 10:11 PM
even though i have dick all for post count, and would have to "earn my stripes" i like #3

"Out of sight, out of mind"

turboturist
18-09-2009, 11:31 PM
I personally like 3

Not that my vote counts as I usually post in only the off topic forum but this is the one that makes the most sense to me as well.

kloan
18-09-2009, 11:42 PM
I rather like the fact that we can still ask questions about AAS and related topics, along with UGLs (which is already kind of censored in some ways as it is).

TBH, it's one of the reasons I came here in the first place. Though once I was here, I could tell this was a board with a much better atmosphere and member participation than other forums I've been to, and that kept me here.

I think it'd be a shame to get rid of it completely. There are still a lot of us who like to talk about it, and without that ability, I think the site will lose a little something.

I agree there needs to be something implemented so that we can do without the new members posting UGL questions, which are transparent to say the least. And it does get annoying when some of us just want honest, straight forward feedback but are left with doubts as to whether or not the feedback we're getting is from actual users or just reps for that lab.

If it's a question of legalities, by all means straighten that out so you're not liable for what is posted on here. Perhaps some alterations to the rules so that we're still allowed to discuss UGLs, offer opinions, etc but not talk about buying/ordering, etc.

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Or option #3. :)

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Mad-Bull
19-09-2009, 12:34 AM
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I agree with this post, there are far to many people that join with 1 post and its talking about some lab, that looks like a 3 year old made it up and scribbled on the label and trying to push it behind the scenes. We are way to lenient here, we warn them, edit there post, and that's it. But by then the damage is done.

On top of that I believe that people source hunting on here should be IMMEDIATELY banned, no questions, no 2 week crap. Just gone, if your too lazy to read the rules when you join, we don't want you here. Everyone knows shit goes on behind the scenes when some one posts that crap, and the only way to remove it is to remove that persons account so it gets an end put to it before it begins.

On top of that if I had to make a choice it would be for number 3, no UG lab talk or pictures or anything unless its in that forum. We have lots of people on this site who don't care about it, and for that reason they should have the choice if there long, good standing members, to ignore the invite and not have to deal with the constant posts of crap all the time with morons pushing there crap. They come to this site to talk about diet, training, and don't even pay attention to the AAS section.

Body By Balco
19-09-2009, 01:35 AM
Old Man and you know who I'm talking to...you know what you have to do. Get rid of ALL UG talk until after the Olympics. Then, unless Canada has another Ben Johnson, NO ONE will give a **** about steroids.

People can talk about steroids in generic terms all they like, terms like Stanozolol, Nandrolone, etc...not the current Kermit Labs Winstrol, type of shit that is going on. Do not hang a target on your back or the back of this site. Its only a few months and all will change. Not long at all.

This trusted member BS...forget it. I can tell you three members that would immediately fall into this catagory by the current definitions, and believe me they should NOT be trusted. Few, if any other than myself, have met these ****s face to face. Most have just had gay little chats on the net via the boards and e-mails. The fools that would and WILL vouch for these three turds credibility don't REALLY know these guys.

The members just need to suck their shit up, use their trusted source, stop price jumping to the idiot new labs popping up right before the Olympics, and just wait a bit.

These new labs will ruin things for ALL the labs with the increased imports coming into the country at the WRONG time.

Perhaps this will drive lab talk to other boards and more in the open, but let some other shit bag take the heat my friend.

hitmansb
19-09-2009, 02:01 AM
IMO, being extra-careful til after the Games is a smart move.

Skyblob
19-09-2009, 02:10 AM
Number 3

Iwant2Grow
19-09-2009, 02:36 AM
I rather like the fact that we can still ask questions about AAS and related topics, along with UGLs (which is already kind of censored in some ways as it is).

TBH, it's one of the reasons I came here in the first place. Though once I was here, I could tell this was a board with a much better atmosphere and member participation than other forums I've been to, and that kept me here.

I think it'd be a shame to get rid of it completely. There are still a lot of us who like to talk about it, and without that ability, I think the site will lose a little something.

I agree there needs to be something implemented so that we can do without the new members posting UGL questions, which are transparent to say the least. And it does get annoying when some of us just want honest, straight forward feedback but are left with doubts as to whether or not the feedback we're getting is from actual users or just reps for that lab.

If it's a question of legalities, by all means straighten that out so you're not liable for what is posted on here. Perhaps some alterations to the rules so that we're still allowed to discuss UGLs, offer opinions, etc but not talk about buying/ordering, etc.

--

Or option #3. :)

..

X2

MuSuLPhReAk
19-09-2009, 02:40 AM
Old Man and you know who I'm talking to...you know what you have to do. Get rid of ALL UG talk until after the Olympics. Then, unless Canada has another Ben Johnson, NO ONE will give a **** about steroids.

People can talk about steroids in generic terms all they like, terms like Stanozolol, Nandrolone, etc...not the current Kermit Labs Winstrol, type of shit that is going on. Do not hang a target on your back or the back of this site. Its only a few months and all will change. Not long at all.

This trusted member BS...forget it. I can tell you three members that would immediately fall into this catagory by the current definitions, and believe me they should NOT be trusted. Few, if any other than myself, have met these ****s face to face. Most have just had gay little chats on the net via the boards and e-mails. The fools that would and WILL vouch for these three turds credibility don't REALLY know these guys.

The members just need to suck their shit up, use their trusted source, stop price jumping to the idiot new labs popping up right before the Olympics, and just wait a bit.

These new labs will ruin things for ALL the labs with the increased imports coming into the country at the WRONG time.

Perhaps this will drive lab talk to other boards and more in the open, but let some other shit bag take the heat my friend.


Good to hear from you. Been awhile. I think your reasoning on this may probably be the most logical with these trying times. Got some personal issues to deal with for the next few days and will make my final decision upon clearing my head.

Thanks.

physique
19-09-2009, 02:47 AM
#3 isnt good. as it wont solve anything. u will still get thosekind of posts from newbies.

the best bet is to leave it the way it is. the vets know whats good and what isnt, so let the newbies battle over waht most know is bs and have the mods step in where they must, without abusing their power or cutting off people from freedom of speech

Seth
19-09-2009, 06:38 AM
I vote #3

BAM
19-09-2009, 11:40 AM
If #3 happens..

Who would be in the startup roster and how would that be determined?

vegan_hunter
19-09-2009, 12:11 PM
With the shit storm happening right now, I would vote for #1. I remember when boards used to be about actual training, nutrition, and for researching actual steroid compounds and cycles. Now the only thing talked about is xxxx labs vs. yyyy lab etc. Nothing constructive actually gets discussed anymore, and its too bad. I remember learning about steroids waaaay back in the CJM glory days when there was actually intelligent discussions about cycles, compounds, training, eating..... now, I feel sorry for guys just getting into AAS who stumble upon today's boards because the amount of genuine, hardcore & dedicated lifters online has dwindled away.

pcruiser73
19-09-2009, 12:23 PM
Number 3

deleteduser0001
19-09-2009, 01:29 PM
With the shit storm happening right now, I would vote for #1. I remember when boards used to be about actual training, nutrition, and for researching actual steroid compounds and cycles.

I don't remember those days, I remember the days when every second question was "can I drink the winny?"

tums1000
19-09-2009, 02:15 PM
#3

tiramisu
19-09-2009, 04:08 PM
The recent push for new members has been successful and they are asking all of the same questions at a higher rate. It's september and the 160 pound tweens are back in school and looking for instant gratification. The recent ranting and raving is entirely normal on any board.

Emphasis on training and diet over drugs and porn is always a good thing for bodybuilding.

I'm not saying drugs aren't effective but most asking the questions are at lifetime highs in natural hgh and testosterone and have no idea how to eat or train.

deleteduser0002
19-09-2009, 04:18 PM
The recent push for new members has been successful and they are asking all of the same questions at a higher rate. It's september and the 160 pound tweens are back in school and looking for instant gratification. The recent ranting and raving is entirely normal on any board.

Emphasis on training and diet over drugs and porn is always a good thing for bodybuilding.

I'm not saying drugs aren't effective but most asking the questions are at lifetime highs in natural hgh and testosterone and have no idea how to eat or train.

Good point...

BAM
19-09-2009, 04:22 PM
With the shit storm happening right now, I would vote for #1. I remember when boards used to be about actual training, nutrition, and for researching actual steroid compounds and cycles. Now the only thing talked about is xxxx labs vs. yyyy lab etc. Nothing constructive actually gets discussed anymore, and its too bad. I remember learning about steroids waaaay back in the CJM glory days when there was actually intelligent discussions about cycles, compounds, training, eating..... now, I feel sorry for guys just getting into AAS who stumble upon today's boards because the amount of genuine, hardcore & dedicated lifters online has dwindled away.

I disagree. Its more that people are sick of being ripped off and they want to be able to discuss what is snake oil and what is not. The business practices of a few labs is what led to this change in climate, not the quality of the bodybuilder per se. Gear quality is just as important as diet and training in my opinion and having some sort of forum either behind the scenes or in the open to discuss this, will only help to make labs more competetive with eachother and produce a better product. The only thing negative about it would be that shitty labs lose some money. (or is that a positive?)

Anyway, its not like have a beef with any labs or anything. I am quite content with what I have tried lately. I am only being vocal because I feel there is no consumer safety with board censorship. That is all.

Iwant2Grow
19-09-2009, 04:24 PM
I disagree. Its more that people are sick of being ripped off and they want to be able to discuss what is snake oil and what is not. The business practices of a few labs is what led to this change in climate, not the quality of the bodybuilder per se. Gear quality is just as important as diet and training in my opinion and having some sort of forum either behind the scenes or in the open to discuss this, will only help to make labs more competetive with eachother and produce a better product. The only thing negative about it would be that shitty labs lose some money. (or is that a positive?)

Anyway, its not like have a beef with any labs or anything. I am quite content with what I have tried lately. I am only being vocal because I feel there is no consumer safety with board censorship. That is all.

nice

SARGE
19-09-2009, 04:31 PM
First what makes you a newby,I am sure there are al lot of first time posters that have a lot of experience.If you want to find gear you will find it.And as far as bashing suppliers,i think these are the guys that dont have a clue about diet and training.How many times have you seen or heard of guys doing gear the first time they hit the weights.That want to look good for the ladys.
Its a way of life,training,eating,sleeping.Gear is only as good as you make it,and i still think it can be a healthy way of life.The only way to stop the trash is to have moderators,moderating.This is a great board!!!!!!!
Just my 5 cents

Merc63
19-09-2009, 04:32 PM
#1



DING DING! I miss the days of MN when no lab talk was allowed. Keep it to PMs if you need a specific question asked and out of the public eye.

Merc63
19-09-2009, 04:36 PM
With the shit storm happening right now, I would vote for #1. I remember when boards used to be about actual training, nutrition, and for researching actual steroid compounds and cycles. Now the only thing talked about is xxxx labs vs. yyyy lab etc. Nothing constructive actually gets discussed anymore, and its too bad. I remember learning about steroids waaaay back in the CJM glory days when there was actually intelligent discussions about cycles, compounds, training, eating..... now, I feel sorry for guys just getting into AAS who stumble upon today's boards because the amount of genuine, hardcore & dedicated lifters online has dwindled away.

AMEN. People were discreet about stuff. Now everything is out in the open for all to see. Its gotten ridiculous.

BAM
19-09-2009, 04:43 PM
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faller
19-09-2009, 05:16 PM
#3

Lykalotopus
21-09-2009, 11:47 AM
#3

nisser
21-09-2009, 02:41 PM
DING DING! I miss the days of MN when no lab talk was allowed. Keep it to PMs if you need a specific question asked and out of the public eye.

Those are some rose-tinted glasses you got there. I remember the anabolic section not getting any new posts for days at a time and people complaining in the OT section about how the forums are dead....

waderow
21-09-2009, 03:03 PM
I personally though the * method was safe to a degree.

1*, 2*, 3* etc.

Ritch
21-09-2009, 03:42 PM
I personally though the * method was safe to a degree.

1*, 2*, 3* etc.

True, but when there is a pic section with the name of the product with the exact same letters as numbers to describe the procuct, you`re not fooling anybody. It`s very border line I think.

Kronis
21-09-2009, 06:05 PM
1 until everything calms back down, then 3.

brad_2626
21-09-2009, 09:06 PM
gotta be #3

Ritch
21-09-2009, 09:15 PM
I personally though the * method was safe to a degree.

1*, 2*, 3* etc.

We can still say 6star (the muscletech division of supps...)