feeling great with test cycle

[beretta96]

hi guys,

haven't posted in awhile, working out of town but still training daily. To briefly update, I had some xxx test e and was going to cycle it at 500mg/wk for 12 weeks with dbol at 30 mg/ed with nolvadex for pct and some aromasin in case of gyno.

Everything I bought was garbage, i upped the dbol to 80mg/ed and nothing at all, the test e I went to 7 weeks and no change, actually I know I got the shaft because I got electrocuted at work and went to emerg. I had some bloodwork done while on an ECG. I asked the tech to check my test levels, he laughed and said fine. Test levels were still below normal for my age which I knew already.

Anyhow, I then got some BD(dated 2005) test e from a different source and now I'm going to start week 3 and feel great already. No dbol, just test, all my exercises are up in weight, not significant weight yet but doing sets with a higher weight without getting as tired. Cardio is lasting longer and generally feeling better all around. Not to mention I can't leave my wife alone for too long, she likes the new me so far.

[L3]

thats shitty bro..... can you put up pics of the xxx gear?

[gicantor]

thats shitty bro..... can you put up pics of the xxx gear?

X2

[baza]

Shitty deal.

[Mr Ontario]

When in doubt if you can stick to Human Grade :) 3 weeks already with that new Test e and you feeling it already...must be good stuff :)

[tex]

When in doubt if you can stick to Human Grade :) 3 weeks already with that new Test e and you feeling it already...must be good stuff :) x2

[theboss]

there has been a ton of positive feedback about this lab...I am quite suprised to here this.

[MikeyFXD35]

^^ x2

[champcar99]

"Everything I bought was garbage, i upped the dbol to 80mg/ed and nothing at all, the test e I went to 7 weeks and no change, actually I know I got the shaft because I got electrocuted at work and went to emerg. I had some bloodwork done while on an ECG. I asked the tech to check my test levels, he laughed and said fine. Test levels were still below normal for my age which I knew already"

how is it possible that they were able to check you test levels on the same day you asked and gave you a answer while you were still there? IMPOSSIBLE ..I have had mine done a while back and you have to wait for the results it can take up to 2 weeks...please explain

[marcman77]

is he saying he didint like the xxx test?

[theboss]

how is it possible that they were able to check you test levels on the same day you asked and gave you a answer while you were still there? IMPOSSIBLE ..I have had mine done a while back and you have to wait for the results it can take up to 2 weeks...please explain

x2 .............also his 1st cycle.


shill

[champcar99]

x2 .............also his 1st cycle.


shill

thinking the same thing bro....impossible to check the same day..your doctor is the only one that can provide you the results of your test levels not a tech..lol.

[marcman77]

.........we need some expert advice.....MR.O?

[Mr Ontario]

Ya..tough call, i'm not there when he is eating and working. Not sure what kind of stress he may be under....all mitigating factors...Not sure what he is expecting for his first cycle. I personally don't get much from D-bol and thats even with Human Grade....everyone reacts differently to certain compounds....D-bol can possible be one of them for him.

For his new Test to be kicking after 3 week and he feels the difference already I would have to say that the other Test is still in his body which is aiding in so :)


.........we need some expert advice.....MR.O?

[MikeyFXD35]

You cant even get a xray tech to tell you if you have a broken bone let alone an ECG tech to tell you what your blood work is. How many blood samples did they draw?

[champcar99]

I just want to know how he was able to get a "tech " on the same day he was in the emergency room to tell him what his test levels were.. as far as I know it's impossible..It has to be done in a lab and that alone takes days to get it done and your doctor is the only one that can tell you the results ....

[bigtavi8]

Come on guys you never heard of the insatantaneos testosterone test. One pick of the finger and instant results. Its great no waiting and using 4 vials and having to pay lab experts too analyze it for a week or 2. Not to mention without a valid reason (not just becuase you would like too) a blood test for hormones cost 30 dollars and you cant eat for a 14 hours. So Im not too sure on this one but as the wise words of cndsoldier. First class SHILL..LOLOL im just kiddign i just wanted to use the word shill because it makes me laugh my ass off.

[Slevin]

So the counterfeit BD gear from 2005 (even being an Enanthate ester, which shouldn't hit peak blood levels until about 5-6 weeks in) is already working better at the start of the 3-week mark (so about 14-15 days) than the xxx product you had in your system for 7 weeks?

Seems you contradicted yourself in the point you were trying to make.

Better luck next time.

[champcar99]

No i have never heard of it and I can't find shit about it online and how accurate can a strip be on test levels.doesn't seem like something doctors are going to use to test your test levels with a strip with a drop of blood on it.that sounds like some home kit..nothing on line about that test...so to say that "you never heard of the insatantaneos testosterone test" I would say NO and it seems to have nothing online about it.. it seems very uncommon

[bigtavi8]

No i have never heard of it and I can't find shit about it online and how accurate can a strip be on test levels.doesn't seem like something doctors are going to use to test your test levels with a strip with a drop of blood on it.that sounds like some home kit..nothing on line about that test...so to say that "you never heard of the insatantaneos testosterone test" I would say NO and it seems to have nothing online about it.. it seems very uncommon

HAHAHA i was being very sarcastic im sorry i came across as serious. I was trying to put it politely and poke fun at even trying to BS us when we all no how it works. Sorry champcar i was just being a douche.

[champcar99]

HAHAHA i was being very sarcastic im sorry i came across as serious. I was trying to put it politely and poke fun at even trying to BS us when we all no how it works. Sorry champcar i was just being a douche.

you got me bro...****ing funny...good one...

[waderow]

i think the test they ran on him was a piss test due to cause (for getting electrocuted) and they probably tested positive for crack.

[bigtavi8]

No but in all seriousness i wouldnt take anyones advice on the xxx Its a new lab and lets think rationally. Would they put out shit right from the get go? Probobly not because everyone would try it and it would instantly get a bad name. When a ugl just starts and the ppl behind it are trustable and known and its not some foreign junk its gtg at first 90% of the time. Also trusted members who have ran a lot more cycles and are not in any way reps say it is good. I dont honestly care either way because im not interested in it but just a thought.

[hyperlite32]

Keep in mind some people have alterior motives about saying "this lab is shit" dont listen to this shit. Just try whatever product you trust and you will be happy.

[MikeyFXD35]

I forgot about the not eating for 14 hour and you have to be test I believe in the morning within 3 hours of waking

[mattsask]

Hope this guy is a crack pot, cuz im startin xxx test e on monday. My diet and training are dialed, so I should be able to give an honest testimonial as to whether the stuff is working.

[Robobrob]

Hope this guy is a crack pot, cuz im startin xxx test e on monday. My diet and training are dialed, so I should be able to give an honest testimonial as to whether the stuff is working.


Ditto, goods are on the way, I hope it's bogus.

For what it's worth, if there's one thing I learned from a few summers as a lab assistant... no one is telling you anything. Heck, even if I had the results sitting in my hand I wouldn't be allowed to read them to you without being personally liable (i.e. not worth it).

[tex]

So the counterfeit BD gear from 2005 (even being an Enanthate ester, which shouldn't hit peak blood levels until about 5-6 weeks in) is already working better at the start of the 3-week mark (so about 14-15 days) than the xxx product you had in your system for 7 weeks?

Seems you contradicted yourself in the point you were trying to make.

Better luck next time. i got some bad test a while ago before i went natty and i switched to some iranian amps and with 3 weeks i was all happy about life again..........just because levels arent stable doesnt mean its not there doin sumthin! not sure about the hormone test tho....im pretty sure you can get one same day and if hospital does things stat like in the states well shit ive gotten bloodwork back in less than an hour!!! not sure how it goes up here but theyd be taking vials of blood for specimen not a dropper......so perhaps he's just unhappy with the lab or maybe someone pissed in his cornflakes......or maybe its the ghost of the macho man..... ;)

[PdH]

I haven't tried xxx and have no comment on it one way or another, but there seems to be a real knee-jerk reaction to the OP, so I thought I'd make some points.

He didn't write that the tech gave him results, only that he asked the tech/nurse to request a test level check.

Hospitals have labs and results come back quickly. Test level checks are not complicated.

The reason why your doc wants test levels checked in the morning after fasting is b/c that's when test levels are highest. Test can be checked at any time without fasting to determine a relatively precise level.

I'm not sure why you guys are jumping all over him.

[nisser]

I don't know what the deal about the gear is but you're all jumping to conclusions. If he's at the hospital in an emergency room, everything can be rushed and prioritized. He could get his results within a couple of hours if the doctor absolutely wanted it.

[Slevin]

I'm not sure why you guys are jumping all over him.

I think it's partly due to the fact that there's been countless members on the board as of late with ulterior motives regarding the comments they make about certain labs.

Furthermore, it seems there are enough reputable people on this board vouching for the line, yet someone new comes along and rips the lab apart out of nowhere.

[The Grim Repper]

In times like these, it's hard to trust any reviews or new faces unless it's been years one is on the Canadian sites. A hospital is able to give a blood test and have results in one day. If there would be a hole in the story is the tech guy giving the results. Protocol in a hospital forbids anyone but the doc giving it. But who really knows unless you were there right? Usually when something is wrong with a product, the first person that should be contacted is the one you got it from. If can't be resolved or there is a problem after that, then it would be high time you let everyone know. Again it may be true all you say but a lab releasing bad gear upon opening shop is a little bit of a hard pill to swallow for us not on it yet. Not your fault beretta, more it's the chain of events. Would love to see more reviews. I believe a bunch of guys are on it right now from the posts I've seen in other threads. Shitty deal as it just hit my gym. Few buds there picked some up. If they get the same results as you, I'm going to chime in.

[PdH]

I think it's partly due to the fact that there's been countless members on the board as of late with ulterior motives regarding the comments they make about certain labs. Furthermore, it seems there are enough reputable people on this board vouching for the line, yet someone new comes along and rips the lab apart out of nowhere.

There's an obvious meaning behind my original post which I thought most would have picked up on. Anyhoo....

[waderow]

There's an obvious meaning behind my original post which I thought most would have picked up on. Anyhoo....

dude. youre a friggen lawyer. you correctly spell almost all words (including Vajina). and you have a big eyeball as your avy when the rest of us have muscles, boobs, asses, and vajinas.

give us a break

:p

[musclehead123]

how is it possible that they were able to check you test levels on the same day you asked and gave you a answer while you were still there? IMPOSSIBLE ..I have had mine done a while back and you have to wait for the results it can take up to 2 weeks...please explain

Not entirely true. Iv spent alot of time in ERs and the hospital, Iv always had results back to me with in 2 hours. The only exception was blood cultures for bacteria, those take about 5-7days. I have also had nurses tell me my results, but they do say "offically I can't tell you, the doctor has to" they'll tell me if things are out of wack. Iv even had the receptionist at my doctors office read me my results right over the phone. I get blood work do on a monthly basis and my doc gets the results the very next day and this is from a third party lab. Could be different for each province, I don't know.

[musclehead123]

I haven't tried xxx and have no comment on it one way or another, but there seems to be a real knee-jerk reaction to the OP, so I thought I'd make some points.

He didn't write that the tech gave him results, only that he asked the tech/nurse to request a test level check.

Hospitals have labs and results come back quickly. Test level checks are not complicated.

The reason why your doc wants test levels checked in the morning after fasting is b/c that's when test levels are highest. Test can be checked at any time without fasting to determine a relatively precise level.

I'm not sure why you guys are jumping all over him.


This is true, First time Iv gotten them checked was at 3pm, didn't fast or anything. I asked the tech if there were special instructions and she said nope.

[PdH]

dude. youre a friggen lawyer. you correctly spell almost all words (including Vajina). and you have a big eyeball as your avy when the rest of us have muscles, boobs, asses, and vajinas. give us a break
:p

Thanks for the great laugh Bro! :laugh

[MikeyFXD35]

I think everyone is missing the main point....WHY would they check your test level? It has very little to do with anything when your in ER. What, did he electrocute his balls. The point is test levels isn't something an ER is going to run, they want white blood cell counts and blood levels this is called a CBC, in a rare case the doctor might order a BMP (Basic Metabolic Panel). The thing is a hormone test is not something a hospital is going to run, unless he was pregnant.

Nobodies jumping all over him, we are just calling him on it. If there's a lab making crap gear we want to know but don't post BS for your own propose. It would be the same if someone post saying they are getting unrealistic gains. Just trying to keep it real.

[Gemini]

Please http://www.antiquark.com/entropyzone/wallpaper/no_bullshit.jpg

[beretta96]

WOW, many of you guys assume i'm jumping to conclusions, i never said the tech gave me the results, just checked off an extra box. the emerg doc gave me results 6 hours later, and no where did i mention a dropper, he took 5 viles and yes a urine test. I was also skipped to the front of the line when I came in with my boss and told them i was electrocuted at 600 volts. They took it serious and rushed everything. The tech told me they were originally checking for ck levels due to the shock and never said what the urine was for.

my brother is a nurse practitioner, and he assured me the test can be done right there in the hospital's lab. yes fasting is required but i was suspecting the gear was bad so was looking for a ball park idea, not a sure fire answer.

dieting and training i believe are irelevant for blood levels, just results that show. from what i've read, an individual can have high blood levels of test yet with poor diet and training will show little to no gain. my point being, when i took the dbol at a standard dose nothing happened. I upped it slowly to see if it was me, and i don't care who you are at 80mg/ed something should have stood out as well as 7 weeks at 500mg/ew.

i pinned week 3 tonight of BD and yes there is a definite difference. In the last two days i have a bad case of acne from my elbows up to and including my shoulders.

I believe I was sold garbage with the xxx label. i don't recall saying the lab itself is garbage. If I did I apologize. You can call me what you want and believe what you want. This post was to originally describe how I was feeling on a real cycle, not flame a source or a brand name, I just put that in to describe the events that lead to my current cycle.

[waderow]

put up a pic. lets take a look see and try to "spot the fake"

very important to know of fake gear is going around

[Slevin]

WOW, many of you guys assume i'm jumping to conclusions, i never said the tech gave me the results, just checked off an extra box. the emerg doc gave me results 6 hours later, and no where did i mention a dropper, he took 5 viles and yes a urine test. I was also skipped to the front of the line when I came in with my boss and told them i was electrocuted at 600 volts. They took it serious and rushed everything. The tech told me they were originally checking for ck levels due to the shock and never said what the urine was for.

my brother is a nurse practitioner, and he assured me the test can be done right there in the hospital's lab. yes fasting is required but i was suspecting the gear was bad so was looking for a ball park idea, not a sure fire answer.

dieting and training i believe are irelevant for blood levels, just results that show. from what i've read, an individual can have high blood levels of test yet with poor diet and training will show little to no gain. my point being, when i took the dbol at a standard dose nothing happened. I upped it slowly to see if it was me, and i don't care who you are at 80mg/ed something should have stood out as well as 7 weeks at 500mg/ew.

i pinned week 3 tonight of BD and yes there is a definite difference. In the last two days i have a bad case of acne from my elbows up to and including my shoulders.

I believe I was sold garbage with the xxx label. i don't recall saying the lab itself is garbage. If I did I apologize. You can call me what you want and believe what you want. This post was to originally describe how I was feeling on a real cycle, not flame a source or a brand name, I just put that in to describe the events that lead to my current cycle.

What you're still not understanding is that at the start of your 3rd week (14-15 days) into using an Enanthate ester, is that it would NOT have even kicked in yet.

If anything, it's the xxx Enanthate reaching peak blood levels in you.

And saying you didn't flame a brand name by calling it "garbage" - Well, what would you call that? Quote: "Everything I bought was garbage."

Bro, I suggest you take a step back and learn how esters and half-lives of drugs work before openly flaming a lab with some very reputable people backing it.

[O-Train]

I'm all ears if you feel like explaining drug half lifes and esters...I would actually bet that the majority of people posting in this thread don't know the half life of Test E. I think there would be at least 3 different answers.

What are his blood levels on day 15? You can't answer because you don't have enough information. Frequency of administration was never mentioned. All we know is 500/wk which means absolutely nothing. Everyone getting all hot and bothered about this is more interesting than the OP's posts, at least to me.


What you're still not understanding is that at the start of your 3rd week (14-15 days) into using an Enanthate ester, is that it would NOT have even kicked in yet.

If anything, it's the xxx Enanthate reaching peak blood levels in you.

And saying you didn't flame a brand name by calling it "garbage" - Well, what would you call that? Quote: "Everything I bought was garbage."

Bro, I suggest you take a step back and learn how esters and half-lives of drugs work before openly flaming a lab with some very reputable people backing it.

[O-Train]

Actually, how often are you pinning baretta96? Acne all over your arms?

[RagingRandy]

As someone who is on HRT I can say that after only 2-3 weeks on Test E as prescribed I was feeling much better mentally. So to say that Test E has no affect for several weeks is a fallacy. It may take that long to see significant strength gains, though it does not in me.

[rob66679]

I'm all ears if you feel like explaining drug half lifes and esters...I would actually bet that the majority of people posting in this thread don't know the half life of Test E. I think there would be at least 3 different answers.

What are his blood levels on day 15? You can't answer because you don't have enough information. Frequency of administration was never mentioned. All we know is 500/wk which means absolutely nothing. Everyone getting all hot and bothered about this is more interesting than the OP's posts, at least to me.
^^^^^^^
Especially in light of the shit thats been happening lately.

That last sentence is smack on. I'm sure its interesting to lots of people.

[beretta96]

Hi guys, just posting an update. I finished 2 weeks ago but the real bummer was I ended up with the flu for a couple of weeks so I lost training time and poor eating. To make matters worse, after the flu I was shipped out of town to no man's land with no gym for 2 more weeks. I tried my best with push ups, sit ups whatever I can find to keep some sort of strength gains. All in all it was an OK learning experience, I kept some strength and size so it wasn't a total loss physically but I did learn some valuable lessons as far as timing goes for a cycle.

It seems as though everything must be planned out perfectly. Next time I'll make a plan of what I want for a training schedule and make a eating schedule with meals and such and ensure my routine is as normal as it can be so there's no distractions. Unforseen circumstances I can't plan for but at least I'll have a guide. Does this sound reasonable?

I think I did OK for a first time, could be better but not dissapointed considering the set backs.

Thanks for the help so far.