Dog Crap method....

[Gib]

Anyone know this training methodology? It basically looks like a standard periodization program, essentially?? Or am i missing something? ANyone have any good info on this? ALl ive found through google searches are old routines that apparently are out of date with current models of it.

Class, Anyone??

Bueller??

[AlbertaBeef]

The most info I've gotten on it is on www.intensemuscle.com It's DCs home board. He also has a training video out now for 30 bucks or something like that, look in DOGG POUND on intensemuscle or try www.jasonwojo.com/dvd.html to order. I'm still trying to get it down before I try it but it gets incredible results and guys swear by it.

[Gib]

Thats what ive heard about it too....and id be willing to bet that dvd has made its way to a torrent server near you.....in fact, i may look for it now!

Thanks for the info!

[gustavo77]

Thats what ive heard about it too....and id be willing to bet that dvd has made its way to a torrent server near you.....in fact, i may look for it now!

Thanks for the info!

If you find it, help a brotha out and post it please. :D

[td1111]

Thanks for mentioning this. I just read most of this page about DC training: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=519128 and I'm going to try some of its concepts out for sure!

[grifter]

one of the main factors is the extreme stretching after working each bodypart. the stretching alone could add size to a bodypart after 3 months

[AlbertaBeef]

I totally agree and I need to start doing that. It makes so much sense to loosen up the tunica around the muscle so it will expand more.

[td1111]

Is that like fascia stretching? Even though there's lots of anecdotal evidence that stretching the muscle fasica, (including using Synthol) allows more room for the muscle to grow. But I gotta wonder how a growing muscle can't stretch it by itself? I mean, cellular division on a tree root can crack concrete for pete's sake.

[grifter]

From what I have read and tried, DoggCrapp training increases a large volume of blood into the particular muscle group being worked (pump). Once this volume is created then you begin the extreme stretching. So the principle behind this would be the stretch and amount of blood volume in the muscle creates a deeper and more painful stretch. Forcing the fasica into a greater stretch.

Mind you DC training also uses heavy weight, so you are getting a great deal of stress on the muscle, unlike doing reps of 20+ of a light weight to reach a pump and then stretching afterwards....somehow I dont think it would have the same effect.

[cedric]

i've managed to add quite a bit of size and more chest development . a lot of it i found came when i started doing extreme stretches. td1111, you are correct, it is muscle fascia stretching it out, and it is damn painful

[Gib]

So cedric, whats so 'extreme' about the stretching? Are you just stretching past the point of discomofrt and really pushing the stretch? Or are there specific stretches recommended?

Thanks for any info!

[cedric]

There are specific stretches to target muscle groups. You're using a lot of resistance and doing holds. It's similar to pnf stretching but by yourself and with weights. For example, the chest extreme stretch looks like dumbell flies, but you're staying in the bottom position, and gradually you stretch out further at the bottom and keep the resistance in the position for 60 seconds.

[St]

Sounds like John Parrillo's training back in the early 90's.

[td1111]

Is there a link to more info about this "extreme stretching"? I'm wondering how it's done for each muscle group. Thanks.

[Gib]

Hmmmm, heres one i found, cant comment on the accuracy though, but FWIW:

http://dc-training.blogspot.com/2005/11/extreme-stretching.html

[C.Cruise]

very good read, only thing that has changed is he no longer charges 400, more like 900 now up front.

[cedric]

there should be pics floating around too. i believe by 'inhuman'. IM would be a good source for doggcrapp training info/discussion.

[Demonwolf]

Check out Parillo's site for the stretches, as someone said i think.

[td1111]

I've searched, but cannot find any pics or diagrams of the extreme stretching, nor on Parillo's site. Any links would be appreciated!

Thanks for the text link, although some of these are hard to visualize.

[cedric]

Stretching:

CHEST: Flat bench 90lb dumbbells chest high--lungs full of air-- I drop down into the deepest flye I can for the first 10 seconds or so with my lungs full of air and chest out---then staying there I arch my back slightly and try to press my sternum upward --this is absolutely excruciating--the rest of the 60 seconds I try to concentrate on dropping my elbows even farther down (I try to but I don't think they are going any lower--LOL)---the last 15 seconds I'm pretty much shaking like a leaf, I have tears in my eyes and I think about dropping bodybuilding and becoming a tap dancer on Broadway (ok that parts not true)--My opinion is people should use dumbbells that are a little over half of what your heaviest set of 6-8 reps would be. I cant state this enough--extreme stretching royally sucks!!! Its painful. But I have seen amazing things with people -especially in the quads.

TRICEPS: Seated on a flat bench-my back up against the barbell---75lb dumbell in my hand behind my head(like in an overhead dumbell extension)--sink dumbell down into position for the first 10 seconds and then an agonizing 50 seconds slightly leaning back and pushing the dumbell down with the back of my head I like one arm at a time in the bottom position of a dumbell triceps extension----going to the extreme stretch and then slightly pushing on the dumbell with the back of my head.

SHOULDERS: This one is tough to describe--put a barbell in the squat rack shoulder height--face away from it and reach back and grab it palms up (hands on bottom of bar)---walk yourself outward until you are on your heels and the stretch gets painful--then roll your shoulders downward and hold for 60 seconds.

BICEPS: Olympic bar in a power rack or squat rack about neck high---face away from it and reach back and put both hands over the bar gripping it----now either sink down with one leg forward/one leg back or better yet squat down and try (I say try because its absolutely excruciating) to kneel. Go down to the stretch that is almost unbearable and then hold that for 45 to 60 seconds. Your own bodyweight is the load. What I do is put the bar at a place on the squat rack in which I can kneel at a severe stretch and then try to sink my ass down to touch my feet. If its too easy I put the bar up to the next rung.

BACK: Honestly for about 3 years my training partner and I would hang a 100lb dumbell from our waist and hung on the widest chin-up bar (with wrist straps) to see who could get closest to 3 minutes--I never made it--I think 2 minutes 27 seconds was my record--but my back width is by far my best body part--I pull on a doorknob or stationary equipment with a rounded back now and its way too hard too explain here--just try it and get your feel for it.

HAMSTRINGS: Either leg up on a high barbell holding my toe and trying to force my leg straight with my free hand for an excruciating painful 60 seconds or another exercise I could only show people and not type here.

QUADS: Facing a barbell in a power rack about hip high --grip it and simultaneously sink down and throw your knees under the barbell and do a sissy squat underneath it while going up on your toes. then straighten your arms and lean as far back as you can---60 seconds and if this one doesn't make you hate my guts and bring tears to your eyes nothing will---do this one faithfully and tell me in 4 weeks if your quads don't look a lot different than they used to.

CALVES: my weak body part that I couldn't get up too par until 2 years ago when I finally thought it out and figured out how to make them grow (with only one set twice a week too) I don't need to stretch calves after because when I do calves I explode on the positive and take 5 seconds to get back to full stretch and then 15 seconds at the very bottom "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand etc" --15 seconds stretching at the bottom thinking and trying to flex my toes toward my shin--it is absolutely unbearable and you will most likely be shaking and want to give up at about 7 reps (I always go for 12reps with maximum weights)--do this on a hack squat or a leg press--my calves have finally taken off due to this.


Static Holds:

Different than extreme stretching. I do extreme stretching for each body part after its finished (holding into a weighted stretched position for 60 seconds)--- Statics are what I do immediately after a working set to try to create even more of an overload ---example: lat pulldowns-300x 14 reps rest paused to failure and then immediately I do a static hold which is pull the bar down 4 inches and lean back slightly. I fight like hell to hold it for 20 seconds counting (one one thousand, two one thousand, three...) but I usually end up shaking like a leaf on some movements (incline presses etc)--trying to hold a three hundred plus pound incline press in a 20 sec. Another example: Incline bench press, John Doe has just completed a rest pause set with 275lbs. He takes the bar off the rack and brings it about 4 inches down (as this is usually where peoples strength range is) and tries to hold it there for a true 20 second count. To be totally honest with you its nothing more than a personal favorite of mine to reach an overload threshold--- someone else might want to do burns down near the bottom for 6-15 short reps, someone else might want to do a 20% more weight negative.

[cedric]

extreme stretching pics
http://img396.imageshack.us/slideshow/player.php?id=img396/4756/1163465404m2r.smil


additional fascia stretching info
http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/magazine/fascialstretching.htm

[guest1]

Thanks Ced . I've been having a problem figuring these things out .

[cedric]

Thanks Ced . I've been having a problem figuring these things out .

do them and one day you can be big like me. lol.

seriously though, give them a try, they're great. painful, but you'll see some changes in a 4-6 weeks ish.

Let me know how they work out for you.

[Gib]

I did a dogcrapp workout last night, stretching and all. Hadent seen tose stretches yet, but figured giving the muscles a big, long stretch (that sounds like a gay porn title doesnt it) would do he trick.

What do you know, i was doing the right ones anyway! Which isnt surprising, there are only so many ways to stretchthe muscles out.

anyway yeah, im sore as hell today lol. Might not be able to get all the workouts in in the time DC method suggests if i saty this sore. But thats ok, adaptation + healing = growth!

[td1111]

Thanks for the links! If this stretches the fascia like Synthol does, then it'll be a nicer option :)
Huge pumps + creatine + gear + DC + extreme stretching + IGF = breaking through my damn plateau! I hope!

[phatkid77]

TD111111, i see alot of pluses, but no diet....LOL.......throw out all the other crap..lol

[tex]

ive used dc for the past year. i put on 40 lbs in the past year......keep up with it....and follow the program like your life depended on it.......if you change it up then you arent doing dc........

[simon85]

Justin Harris DC Training video

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=XTWLFM9T

[Sean]

http://www.intensemuscle.com/search.php?searchid=473521