Dbol vs Methylated PH

[CanadianIron]

I kick started my last test cycle (500mg/weekX12) with 4 weeks of superdrol (10,20,40,40) and wasnt blown away by the gains I got in the first 5 weeks, gains didnt start coming good til week 6-7 so the superdrol felt kind of useless. I did a 4 week Sdrol cycle only 6 months before and the gains seemed better.

Regardless, what should I expect from Dbol? How much stronger/better is Dbol than a PH like superdrol? (Assuming diet/sleep/routine is all good.)

[kloan]

Never tried it yet myself, but I feel 100% confident saying it'll be MUCH better than Sdrol.

:)

[tiramisu]

40 mg of dbol a day will blow you up, give you back pumps and make you significantly stronger. I don't tolerate it terribly well and bp is an issue for me while others swear by it.

Unlike prohormones dbol works. I am currently running tbol as a slightly less effective alternate and only having back pumps on squat days.

[CanadianIron]

I definately made gains on Sdrol, I know it works, but its not like "Holy shit, that guy is definately using, he got so big, so fast!" ... looking forward to trying some real Dbol. I havent experience many sides from the Sdrol or Test, so hopefully im good with Dbol.

[cdnsoldier]

Dbol vs. Sdrol ? Dbol all the way. I don't even consider Sdrol a legit anabolic.

The only reason the Americans hype it up so much is because of it's availability.

[nitrous]

i havent tried superdrol but dbol at only 25mg's you should notice for sure

[CanadianIron]

i havent tried superdrol but dbol at only 25mg's you should notice for sure

Would you guys advice against 40mg ED on a first cycle with Dbol?

[bongd]

Wow, no offense or anything but serious misinformation here. I don't mean to be an elitist newb, but SD is mg for mg much more potent than dbol. Easily!!

SD is NOT a pro hormone. It requires no enzymatic conversion to become a steroid - SD is a steroid. Period. And it's both an extremely potent and toxic one at that. Dbol is more tolerable but leads to far more water retention, less strength gains and can aromatize into difficult and eccentric estrogens.

SD has downsides as well. Lipid values flip upside down, it's hepatotoxicity is almost as brutal as it gets, prolactin seems to become elevated (I've heard reports of progesterone rising too), the pumps can become intolerable and it seems to yield a moderate to severe hypoglycemic affect which can inherently lead to vicious headaches. However, if you can tolerate the sides (not the asymptomatic sides, your lipids are going to get ****ed no question) then it's a great lean bulking compound.

First time I took SD I was benching three plates for reps. Was 100lbs when I started lifting, used SD at 170lbs a few years in and was throwing up more weights than the "real" juicers. It's not a drug to scoff at because of it's legal or social status.


Judging this compound beyond anything but cold hard facts is prejudice and superficial.

[cdnsoldier]

Wow, no offense or anything but serious misinformation here. I don't mean to be an elitist newb, but SD is mg for mg much more potent than dbol. Easily!!

SD is NOT a pro hormone. It requires no enzymatic conversion to become a steroid - SD is a steroid. Period. And it's both an extremely potent and toxic one at that. Dbol is more tolerable but leads to far more water retention, less strength gains and can aromatize into difficult and eccentric estrogens.

SD has downsides as well. Lipid values flip upside down, it's hepatotoxicity is almost as brutal as it gets, prolactin seems to become elevated (I've heard reports of progesterone rising too), the pumps can become intolerable and it seems to yield a moderate to severe hypoglycemic affect which can inherently lead to vicious headaches. However, if you can tolerate the sides (not the asymptomatic sides, your lipids are going to get ****ed no question) then it's a great lean bulking compound.

First time I took SD I was benching three plates for reps. Was 100lbs when I started lifting, used SD at 170lbs a few years in and was throwing up more weights than the "real" juicers. It's not a drug to scoff at because of it's legal or social status.


Judging this compound beyond anything but cold hard facts is prejudice and superficial.

Oh sorry did I offend the Sdrol family out there with my prejudice and superficial facts? Please apologize to them. Sorry but I like my liver and my blood prssure where it is. No offense to that and thanks for doing such a wonderful job selling SD. After you're write up I'm sure you sold a lot of guys here.

Thus as I said it's NOT A LEGIT ANABOLIC. You can't consider any anabolic legit (the sides are intolerable ) when it causes so many side effects that taking it isn't worth the hassle. When your head feels like it's been kicked by a mule after 20 decline bench presses and you're running for the advil- How's that legit?

As I said- The only reason peole take it is because it's widely available, If they banned it in the States and it was hard to get as Dbol no one would go looking for it.


PS. Technically it's still considered a research chemical although for all intensive purposes it's an AAS that somehow got through on a loophole and will blow more kidney's and livers than Jack Daniels by the time it gets banned.

[nitrous]

Would you guys advice against 40mg ED on a first cycle with Dbol?

why not try a lower dosage first.. and see how you feel.. then after a few weeks if you want up it a bit

[GYMBRAT]

yeah i'd give 30mgs a try and just keep an eye on bp etc.. you may not even need to run it at a higher dose period. I personally respond to dbol very well with next to no sides at 40mgs a day, but at 50mgs a day I feel the pressure ;)...also depended on the brand Ive noticed also

[bongd]

Oh sorry did I offend the Sdrol family out there with my prejudice and superficial facts? Please apologize to them. Sorry but I like my liver and my blood prssure where it is. No offense to that and thanks for doing such a wonderful job selling SD. After you're write up I'm sure you sold a lot of guys here.

Thus as I said it's NOT A LEGIT ANABOLIC. You can't consider any anabolic legit (the sides are intolerable ) when it causes so many side effects that taking it isn't worth the hassle. When your head feels like it's been kicked by a mule after 20 decline bench presses and you're running for the advil- How's that legit?

As I said- The only reason peole take it is because it's widely available, If they banned it in the States and it was hard to get as Dbol no one would go looking for it.


PS. Technically it's still considered a research chemical although for all intensive purposes it's an AAS that somehow got through on a loophole and will blow more kidney's and livers than Jack Daniels by the time it gets banned.


Bro, what's with the ad hominem attacks? You getting a little touchy because you know that you're completely wrong?

Superdrol, for all intents and purposes, is an anabolic androgenic steroid - there is no question about it. End of discussion. Take your little personal opinions elsewhere. No one appreciates an adult who has temper tantrums over internet arguements, espcially when they're arguing over something that's brutally wrong.

You are wrong. And although it should go without saying, I've never sold Superdrol in my life. If anyone wants any, they're free to purchase it for next to nothing through bodybuilding.com or any other online vendor for as little as $20.

Legal status, side affects and personal opinions do not constitute the chemical make up of a compound. And as far as the whole designer thing is concerned, open up a copy of Vida where you'll see plenty of "non-legit" steroids which have been observed on paper but not manufactured as they don't serve an appreciable medical purpose.

[C-money]

Im agreeing with bong on this one...