View Full Version : anavar/proviron/nolva (going mental)
jacked_to_the_nine
09-09-2009, 09:49 PM
k, i'm trying something diffrent with these 3 compounds, and in short, i've just pyramided the whole cycle so that i'm now taking
80mg of var 30/30/20 morning/aft/evening
100mg of proviron 50/50 morning/evening
20mg of nolva, morning
the thing is, i just added the nolva 3 days ago and i'm all of a suddon going ****ing mental... like i wanna run through walls and shit! i mountain bike and i whiped out like over a 5 foot jump and landed right on my face, got up and laughed, then rode away, i train in mma, and i mashed some guys face in training like he was silly putty in my hands, i'm deadlifting with no strap and no belt 3 plates a side and i'm 173lbs (i always used a belt, and something in my head is making me crazy)... do you think that the nolva is the cause of this intense strength and aggression? i'm thinking of adding another 20mg on nolva in a week.
bigtavi8
09-09-2009, 09:53 PM
Seems like a lot of var. After 40mg ED i know ppl that have felt the same way. Its individualistic. Some ppl react differntly to compounds. I know that after 60mg ED of var i felt like i was gonna rip somebodys head off. I dont know why but it just happened. I had the urge to just hit or hurt something. LOL..but its not likely the nolva is the reason you feel this way. Cant comment on the primo becuase i haev never used it but.. maybe slightly lower the var to 60mg and try it out. Just a suggestion. I find after a certain dose of some compounds the positive effect to side effect ratio becomes a concern. For ex. 50 works great low sides, 80 works the same amount, uncontrollable sides.
gicantor
09-09-2009, 10:31 PM
I am missing something? Why are you using nolva during the cycle? Is this your first cycle?
bigtavi8
09-09-2009, 10:35 PM
never thought of that either did gyno flare up or are you very prone to gyno??Estro not an issue with those compounds is it? unless you didnt mention some test ur running with it.
C-money
09-09-2009, 10:56 PM
ya the nolva is straight up useless using it during that posted cycle...
deleteduser0002
09-09-2009, 11:59 PM
As others have said, theres no reason for nolva in this cycle.....but in response to your question my guess would be the var is making you feel nuts. It does to me every single time for some reason...which I don't understand because its not very androgenic.. I've tried to run the stuff three times now and every time I have to stop after 3 or 4 weeks because it makes me so damn moody and pissy. Tren and var are two compounds that I cannot use at all.
MMASTAR
10-09-2009, 12:10 AM
what kind of var are you using?
jacked_to_the_nine
10-09-2009, 08:17 AM
well i do agree with moodyness and pissyness being an issue on var, but this happens to me on even 40mg of the stuff, what i need to make clear is that i have been running the var and proviron for 50 days now without the nolva, i just added the nolva 3 days ago to see if anything would happen, and the thing is, since i've added 20mg of nolva 3 days ago, i really feel a diffrence, like i feel way stronger and more, androgenic in a sense, like i'm telling you dudes i feel alot diffrent with the 3 combined... i'm known for experimenting with synergy and shit like that and i don't know but i think there's something between the 3, or maybe i'm just going mental from the high doses of var catching up to me, i don't know... the only thing i can come up with is that theory that nolva somehow increases test levels, or maybe the reduction in estrogen is giving me these thoughts of sadism! xxx labs!
steve_d
10-09-2009, 09:43 AM
i'm deadlifting with no strap and no belt 3 plates a side and i'm 173lbs - do you think that the nolva is the cause of this intense strength and aggression? i'm thinking of adding another 20mg on nolva in a week.
no offence, but that isn't intense strength!
The other stuff, like landing on your face an laughing it off seems to be a lot of placebo.
gustavo77
10-09-2009, 10:01 AM
well i do agree with moodyness and pissyness being an issue on var, but this happens to me on even 40mg of the stuff, what i need to make clear is that i have been running the var and proviron for 50 days now without the nolva, i just added the nolva 3 days ago to see if anything would happen, and the thing is, since i've added 20mg of nolva 3 days ago, i really feel a diffrence, like i feel way stronger and more, androgenic in a sense, like i'm telling you dudes i feel alot diffrent with the 3 combined... i'm known for experimenting with synergy and shit like that and i don't know but i think there's something between the 3, or maybe i'm just going mental from the high doses of var catching up to me, i don't know... the only thing i can come up with is that theory that nolva somehow increases test levels, or maybe the reduction in estrogen is giving me these thoughts of sadism! xxx labs!
Nolva is not anabolic or androgenic in any way shape or form....chances are you a gaining some strength and muscle from the var....drop the nolva, it is toxic and there is no need for it in this or any other cycle.
waderow
10-09-2009, 10:29 AM
i don't know... the only thing i can come up with is that theory that nolva somehow increases test levels, or maybe the reduction in estrogen is giving me these thoughts of sadism! xxx labs!
Nolvadex is a serm. It does not reduce estrogen in the body. It blocks estrogen receptors. The estrogen you had before is still there. The test you had before, is unchanged. Its all in your head.
nitrous
10-09-2009, 12:14 PM
strange all you guys got aggression from var.. i had none when i was on it for 10 weeks.. i think i might have even been in a better mood
nolva messes with my head.. but not in the way you described. more like i feel like crying on it and more emotional but never any sort of aggression
jacked_to_the_nine
10-09-2009, 04:26 PM
no offence, but that isn't intense strength!
The other stuff, like landing on your face an laughing it off seems to be a lot of placebo.
thats for 8 reps that don't stop though, i don't know what my 1 rep max is, and this is after doing 30 min of nuttball mountain bikeing, and then 15min of sprints that kill me, then i do these deadlifts, that's pretty decent for an athlete of 170lbs... but no, defffinetly peanuts compared to power lifters! ya i can't wait to end this cycle and DO SOME ****ING TEST!
bigtavi8
10-09-2009, 04:28 PM
LOl its ok man a tonne of ppl do the exact same thing. They try oral cycles and are not satisfied with the gains, killed by sides, and not to happy. At least you know that your next go after pct and a break will be a good old fashioned bottle of test e!
steve_d
10-09-2009, 07:45 PM
thats for 8 reps that don't stop though, i don't know what my 1 rep max is, and this is after doing 30 min of nuttball mountain bikeing, and then 15min of sprints that kill me, then i do these deadlifts, that's pretty decent for an athlete of 170lbs... but no, defffinetly peanuts compared to power lifters! ya i can't wait to end this cycle and DO SOME ****ING TEST!
not bad I suppose. Unrelated to your thread though - if you trained it hard you'd get 4 plates for 8 at that bodyweight no problem. Back in university, I would drag some of my buddies to the gym - skin and bones repping out 3 plates never having done deadlifts ever. You'd be surprised how anyone can be a decent powerlifter if you train for it. I guess thats why powerlifting type training makes little runts like me impressive in the gym. Other than the 3 lifts, I am no stronger than anyone else my weight.
hmmm.....i did 100mg of var a day and not much aggression....now when I did 925mg/wk of test suspension...then i had some aggression....and veins on top of veins that were on top of other veins...and they were pissed off as well......put some tren a and test with that var and then you're in trouble :)
jacked_to_the_nine
11-09-2009, 10:09 PM
k so i'm hitting up clenbuterol now, and i've dropped the nolva too, however i don't know why but nolva does make me more aggressive, like it makes me apathetic too! anyway, i'm wondering if i should drop the proviron dosage to 50mg ED considering it may be too much for the old blood pressure while on clen, and i've dropped the var dosage to 50mg ED... i'll be done the cycle in 2 weeks, so that's 14 days of clen and var and then 2 more weeks transition into my pct, with the clen streight through...
canadianmuscle0803
12-09-2009, 02:57 AM
oral only cycles are for pussies!!! and IMO should be ILLEGAL lol
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