Test P/Tren A, second cycle

[Danger]

Setting up my second cycle right now and im looking for some feedback. My last (first!) cycle was:

Test E 750mg/week for 12 weeks with 40mg Dbol ED from week (2-8).

This took me from 200lbs-215lbs (on cylce high of 220lbs), with the only side effects being mild acne. My goal for my next cycle is to really focus on Body recomp and hardening everything up, im looking to get down around 8% BF(est). Diet/Cardio/Workouts are already planned for this cycle, just making a final decision as far as AAS goes.

Im thinking for my second cycle I want to do 8 weeks of:

Test P, 100mg ED
Tren A, 25mg ED

I've also had a few friends suggest adding 50mg ED of Winny

My last cycle I used Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20 as PCT and had great results, but im working if I should be adding HCG due to the tren?

I've often seen people run an extra 1-2 weeks of Test after the Tren is done, why is this?

[tiramisu]

Tren dosage is on the low side

HCG should be during cycle 250-500 twice a week.

Last cycle I cut my tren off early but was dosing 700mg tren-a and 1750 mg of test per week. It just "SEEMED" reasonable to taper down prior to pct. With the lower dosages I would probably not bother.

[waderow]

yeah, double the tren up

[Big D]

yeah, double the tren up

x2

50mg EOD or 100 mg EOD

[kloan]

x2

50mg EOD or 100 mg EOD
50mg EOD is the same as 25mg ED....

[Danger]

Im thinking Big D meant 50mg ED or 100mg EoD.

Is it mabey a good idea to do the first week at 25mg ED and then increase or does it just make sense to go with 50mg ED from the start and then lower it the sides are to harsh.

Also what are everyones thoughts on adding the Winny? I know its effects are more suited to pre-contest, but I already have 40 50mg Tabs laying around anyway.

[nisser]

Also what are everyones thoughts on adding the Winny? I know its effects are more suited to pre-contest, but I already have 40 50mg Tabs laying around anyway.

lol, thinking that way will really get you in trouble. I have everything under the sun but anavar and if I thought that way I'd be up shit creek real fast.

use it at the end of the cycle if you must, if you're reasonably lean.

[kloan]

Im thinking Big D meant 50mg ED or 100mg EoD.

Is it mabey a good idea to do the first week at 25mg ED and then increase or does it just make sense to go with 50mg ED from the start and then lower it the sides are to harsh.

Also what are everyones thoughts on adding the Winny? I know its effects are more suited to pre-contest, but I already have 40 50mg Tabs laying around anyway.

ah, yeah probably.. :)

i dont have any experience with tren, but i think starting with 25mg ed could work out fine in the beginning. you can always bump it up if everything's ok and you're handling it fine. 175mg/week sounds pretty low.. i was considering 200mg/week, and that's on the low side as it is... but hey, it's a short ester so why not.

skip the winny, or use it at the end if you're lean.. personally, either the winny i had was shit or i didnt like it.

[nitrous]

like they said up the tren if you are going to run it..

[OrangePeel]

You took a gram of gear for your first cycle?wow. Would advise against Tren for a second, third, even fourth cycle. Tren is a serious compound that gets played with too much, and shuts guys down bad. Lots of horror stories. If your gonna do it, keep th tren low and watch out. Have caber and letro on hand. Run test longer than tren by couple weeks.

Good Luck

Opeel

[juggybuggy]

For your first time with tren, 25mg a day is a good place to start.
it is effective even at that low of a dose.
Tren is a very potent aas, so its a good idea to start slow and work your way up to higher doses.

[Danger]

Yeah, its not like I had bad results from just Test anyway and im still running pretty much the same amount of test I was on my last cycle. Im thinking I will start at 25mg ED and then increase if I dont see the results I am looking for.

Also im still looking for some info on why people say to run the test longer than the tren? is dropping the tren early really going to help me recover quicker? to me it seems like as long as im taking the test im gonna be shotdown no matter what.

[bigtavi8]

Like you were saying initially you should add the hcg if your using tren becuase your def right when you say it will likely shut you down. Theres some good threads on here for HCG protocol so id check em out and go that route also. bring them boys back to life! :beat

[GYMBRAT]

tren shuts me down to near divorce LOL so yeah do your homework bro