tapering and pct timing

[oharad]

hey guys heres the deal

I am just goming off a 16 week cycle

wk 1-4
40mg tbol
500mg cyp
400mg eq

wk5-11
750mg cype
600mg eq

wk 12-15
750mg cyp
400mg eq
50mg winni ED (oral)

wk 16
500 mg cyp

so here is what i am thinking....
repeat wk 16 for 1 more week
then drop to 2 half shots so 250mg total for 1 week

then do 2 shots of prop and start clomid 2days after last shot

day 1-3 150mg clomid
day 4-7 100mg clomid
days 8-14 50mg clomid

what are your thoughts on this scheme?

pm if you wish

[fathead]

well, a lot of guys out there will tell you tapering is useless or terrible or whatever but i quite like it.

imo if youre going to taper you dont need to use prop. To keep it simple I would use the winny through to the end to let the longer acting test drop off and clear (ie run winny 2-3 weeks past test. I use anavar for this purpose).

I hate clomid. absolutely gross. but thats me so who cares. if you like it than use it.

[oharad]

actually I have never used clomid or any other PCT drugs b4

that is why I posted this thread. last cycles i just dropped everything and did 50mg prop EOD for 2 weeks and stopped cold.... but i lost a fair bit of size n strength that way

this is why i am looking for input

[fathead]

ok well i like to use:

days 1-14 novla at 40mg
14-28 nolva at 20mg
1-28 1mg adex/day

clomid is nasty stuff, although some swear by it. imo most who swear by it probably havent tried pct without it (although some vets obviously have).

clomid gives many bad skin, mood swings, and CAN cause permanent eye damage. I dont run heavy andoregenic cycles and always recover perfectly with above method.

[oharad]

dont have enough nolva sitting around to do that.

tonnes of clomid tho

[fathead]

dont have enough nolva sitting around to do that.

tonnes of clomid tho

dont be one of those idiots who does cycles based on what they have laying around. thats a really poor approach to this game bro.

"tren kills my hair and skin but ive got some so...... ill use it"

[oharad]

from what i have been told clomid is a far better PCT choice to nolva

my concern is restarting HPTA primarily. From what I have read and been told Tamoxifen does nto do that effectively. That is why when I started this cycle i picked up more then enough clomid to see me through. (figured too much is better then not enough)

what do you think of my clomid usage method? meaning dosage/timing?
and if i were to not use prop as you said how would i time my clomid?