Wanna start using AAS

[nyrfan68]

I've done 3 Prohormone cycles over the last year.
Halodrol

and then a

Trenadrol/Dymethazine Stack.

and then a Halodrol/Trenadrol stack.

I'm sick of PHs now, you can't run them long enough and they aren't that effective.

Any tips on a first cycle...?
I plan on maybe running Sust and Dbol with arimidex and clomid/nolva for PCT
Sound good?

I am in the Waterloo area for the next 4 months, at University, so i figure it shouldn't be too hard to find a dealer if I look hard enough.
It'd probably be easier if I went to a hardcore gym instead of goodlife. lol

[baza]

Looks not bad. Test alone will do just fine too.

[St]

Ya just start off with 500mg a week of test keep it simple.

[ubcpower]

i would suggest getting some bloodwork done before you start a real cycle. Being that you are obviously young (in university) and have done frequent prohormone cycles you might want to check that everything is in order first. I know back when i was playing college ball we basically did m1t's and a bunch of other prohormones for a few years straight and it messed up a lot of us

[_Ragnar_]

Hey OP what are your stats by the way?

[nyrfan68]

5'11
225
roughly 300 pound bench press
- i can tell you about my other lifts for my back, shoulders w/e if you want.


I haven't been able to do free bb squats for a year or deadlift since I tore my patellar tendon. I am able to heavy leg press, leg ex, hack squat machine, and stiff legged dl, leg curl, thats about it.
It sucks, but the doctors have been really f'n useless.
had an mri, a sports doc in to said its possible the mri didn't go low enough. so im gonna start using a patellar band but i just don't wanna re-injure it.

[GYMBRAT]

long ester test will do just fine bro, 500mgs per wk for 12 wks imo

...I'd also have your pct purchased even before you start you cycle

[bigtavi8]

dont even mention PH cycles. Ph and AAS are completly differnt animals. I have used halodrol then actual cycles and its like night and day. Dont **** with sust becuase it has all differnt length esters and you wont be able to tell the sides right. Use test e 500mg and you can see how you react.

[C-money]

dont even mention PH cycles. Ph and AAS are completly differnt animals. I have used halodrol then actual cycles and its like night and day. Dont **** with sust becuase it has all differnt length esters and you wont be able to tell the sides right. Use test e 500mg and you can see how you react.

Exactly im a big believer in starting with test only.. then you know how you react to it (especially since its gonna be a base for 99% of your cycles... add some other compound to test next time then you know how you react with that and so on...
My bro is gonna be starting up in oct.. test only.... but i warned him... get used to it, cause one cycle is never enough:p

[GYMBRAT]

my first cycle I started with:
50 mgs a day d-bol
500mgs a wk test e
500mgs a wk Deca

....17 yrs ago with a lab called ttokkyo labs, plain STUPID for a first cycle I must say!!!!

^^^^DO NOT DO THIS^^^^

[bigtavi8]

hey gymbrat do you say stupid becuase you could have not used the deca and the dbol or just the lab?

[GYMBRAT]

sorry bro, yeah you bet, the Deca and the d-bol were def out of line for a 1st cycle imo, I feel like a big time hypocrite nowa days because I don't believe in that strong of a 1st cycle...though it really did no harm as of sides, but still....live and learn ;)

...that lab was still good at the time, but ended up being super couterfitted sp l8tr on

[daande]

My first cycle:

50mg Test Prop ED
50mg Tren Ace ED

lol definatly got sick of pinning.

[GYMBRAT]

ouch lol^^

[bigtavi8]

Daande your a straight up badass for using tren in the first cycle. Honestly was it not too bad or did you wish youd chose something else?

[GYMBRAT]

imo Tren is the shit for me...I absolutely LOVE it, been off for 2 yrs but was added in my last 4 cycles prior

[tiramisu]

If you really must and you probably shouldn't.

500 mg of test e / week for 12 weeks. ( single long ester )
aromasin @ 12.5 mcg eod ( preferable to adex )
pct with nolvadex 40/40/20/20 ( minimal pct, sane cycle )

Don't start throwing gas on the fire until you know how your body reacts to these drugs. You won't know that you have problems with them until you do.

A smart thing to do would be to go to a doctor and get a complete blood work up as a baseline so that you know what's going on post cycle. I wish I had done this in the first place.

A smarter thing to do would be to find a good trainer and spend the money on that instead of drugs. A strength coach or a bodybuilding coach (depending on your need) would be a much better investment. Again after many injuries and many failed attempts I can admit that this is another thing I wish I had done.

good luck

[tex]

you risk damaging your tendons even more with a test only cycle....collagen synth will be decreased by up to 80% .........plus the fast increase in strength puts more stress on your already stressed knee.......you should think about using compounds that increase coll synth such as....deca,eq,primo,anavar and the holy grail of tendon repair....HGH.....

[waderow]

you risk damaging your tendons even more with a test only cycle....collagen synth will be decreased by up to 80% .........plus the fast increase in strength puts more stress on your already stressed knee.......you should think about using compounds that increase coll synth such as....deca,eq,primo,anavar and the holy grail of tendon repair....HGH.....

I think a little eq would be a wonderful addition IMO.

[tex]

^^ his tendons will thank him....