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dinosaur
02-09-2009, 08:26 AM
I started noticing some gyno in my left nipple while running Test Prop and Tren Ace. I panicked and took 5-7.5mg of Letrozole and 80-120mg of Nolvadex ED for a few days. Now, I can't keep my dick up for longer than 5 minutes.

I stopped using the letro and cut out the tren. I've been injecting my prop ED and started using clomid and hcg, desperately trying to get my sh*t together.

Thoughts on how to get my sexlife back?

vanskelig
02-09-2009, 08:39 AM
wait for letro to go away

daande
02-09-2009, 08:39 AM
Viagra or Cialis.... Drop clomid how much hcg are you injecting and how often?

waderow
02-09-2009, 09:01 AM
remain calm and dont be so quick to start popping pills, and dropping and adding compounds. Youre going to develop other sides.

you already know the answer.... you panicked and started popping way too much serms, and now you have to wait it out. or take cialis.

you dont get gyno overnight

LIVEHARD
02-09-2009, 09:12 AM
remain calm and dont be so quick to start popping pills, and dropping and adding compounds. Youre going to develop other sides.

you already know the answer.... you panicked and started popping way too much serms, and now you have to wait it out. or take cialis.

you dont get gyno overnight

X@2 we all panic once in a while

St
02-09-2009, 09:32 AM
Take your hcg and if that doesn't help it will be from Progesterone,then you will need Bromo,but first give the HCG shot.Also Proviron will help out for Penis Perfection.

Random Letters
02-09-2009, 10:11 AM
Jesus, you've taken a rediculous amount of letro! Once that clears your system you'll be okay.

Why drop the tren?

In my experience, if you can keep your estrogen levels in check (with responsible doses of A.I's) gyno won't be a problem regardless of other compounds used.

L3
02-09-2009, 10:24 AM
up your dose of prop

ironwill
02-09-2009, 10:41 AM
remain calm and dont be so quick to start popping pills, and dropping and adding compounds. Youre going to develop other sides.

you already know the answer.... you panicked and started popping way too much serms, and now you have to wait it out. or take cialis.

you dont get gyno overnight
that is all that needs to be said....IMO, dont add anything else, get rid of all that other shit...It isnt necessary...your lipids will be ****ed now also...be wary bro....you took wayyyyyyyyyyyy to much letro etc...
Bromo is ok, but not the best for this situation either.....
Pramipexole is what you need...Its good with tren and deca and great to fight prolactin etc....It is good for erection ability, and also good for igf release so they say....But better option than brom by far...

http://www.afboard.com/forum/womens-discussion/30612-pramipexole-feedback.html
there is lots of info on it out there, here is some reviews by peers...It is also great for women...

Redz
02-09-2009, 11:40 AM
Letro kills sex drive at low doses so that dose should put it away for atleast a week probably.

C-money
02-09-2009, 11:56 AM
Holy letro batman... but in all seriousness... letro is some serious shiat......all you can do is wait it out bro

tums1000
02-09-2009, 12:32 PM
i used letro at 2.5 mg eod and it cleared up my gyno, no sex drive problem here

troy_trinity
02-09-2009, 12:50 PM
holly shit man... why the **** did you feel you needed 5-7mg's of letro?

FFS 1mg is more then enough to clear up gyno for most people and 2.5mg's is enough for even the people that get the worse gyno...

And then 120mg's of nolva on top of that?!?!? WTF for? letro kills 98% of estrogen all nolva is doing is- NOTHING.

You basically just ****ed your hormones to shit- You flooded your body with so much shit at once and then took stuff out right away and whatnot... Your body is in a state of shock...

Expect it to be a month before shit returns to normal and don't be so stupid in the future.

Sorry for being a dick but you need to smarten up bro...

dinosaur
02-09-2009, 01:00 PM
you're all correct... I f'd up big time

should I not be using the clomid now?

I've stopped the letro completely and I'm just going with 20mg nolva ed. I've been injecting 200mg of prop everyday and I have tried cialis and it gets up... but then it goes down.

I'm injecting 500iu hcg ED, since Monday. Stopped letro on Sunday, only did the high doses for 2-3 days in total, but obviously it was enough.

The nolva got rid of the gyno and I had dropped the Tren because originally I thought it was the cause of the libido shut down until I realized (obviously) the letro.

So just wait it out a week?

nisser
02-09-2009, 01:06 PM
It could take more than a week. Letro has a halflife of 2-4 days and if you've been taking 5-7.5mg for days, it'll be in your system for a while. Some people get shut down with less than a 1mg dose so it'll take time for it to clear your system...longer if you've been taking it for several days.

really stupid thing to do is to take 3x the maximum recommended daily dose but you've already been told that

giannos
02-09-2009, 01:08 PM
Sorry for being a dick but you need to smarten up bro...

Posting like a prick, then saying sorry dosent make up for it. This isnt BB.com ( where I believe you came from )... The OP obviously panicked. Gyno can be some scary shit, and nobody wants a set of tits.. No big deal, he will be fine in a few weeks... Just let the Letro clear bro and next time just calm down

deleteduser0002
02-09-2009, 01:13 PM
you're all correct... I f'd up big time

should I not be using the clomid now?

I've stopped the letro completely and I'm just going with 20mg nolva ed. I've been injecting 200mg of prop everyday and I have tried cialis and it gets up... but then it goes down.

I'm injecting 500iu hcg ED, since Monday. Stopped letro on Sunday, only did the high doses for 2-3 days in total, but obviously it was enough.

The nolva got rid of the gyno and I had dropped the Tren because originally I thought it was the cause of the libido shut down until I realized (obviously) the letro.

So just wait it out a week?


Personally I'd just keep running the prop (200mg a day is too high IMHO but its up to you) and the nolva and HCG(I'd lower that a bit as well) and just wait it out...as others have said. It could be a while. You'll have to be patient.

nisser
02-09-2009, 02:17 PM
lol I didnt' even notice. running 1400mg of test prop per week is probably where your gyno troubles are coming from. What are your stats?

Random Letters
02-09-2009, 02:25 PM
200mg ED is a lot of prop. That will certainly cause some estro sides in most people.

Again, I believe that the responsible use of an AI is your best bet. I'd drop the prop down to 100mg/day, get the tren back in there at 75mg ED and run Exemestane at 12.5mg ED or Arimidex at 0.25mg ED.

Letro is too harsh. ****s up your lipids and can obviously destroy your libido.

dinosaur
02-09-2009, 07:42 PM
I was only running 600mg of prop a week, but I started injecting more to try and get my penis back.

Hopefully it only takes a few more days... I don't know how long I can go.

deleteduser0002
02-09-2009, 07:54 PM
I was only running 600mg of prop a week, but I started injecting more to try and get my penis back.

Hopefully it only takes a few more days... I don't know how long I can go.

Your test levels are already plenty high enough...your problem is you now have zero estrogen in your body. You'll have to wait for that to climb back up to a normal range...which won't happen for a little while yet because of all the letro you've got in your system.

My honest opinion;

prop: 100mg ed or eod
hcg: 500iu eod
nolva: 20mg ed

and just wait and be patient.

L3
02-09-2009, 08:41 PM
how is the hcg gonna help him...

you can experiment, get a compound that aromatizes heavily (dbol) and chew on those for a week, while taking nolva

fireflyer
02-09-2009, 10:13 PM
HCG? Can it ever hurt to fluff your nuts? I know it doesn't effect his current problem directly but it certainly can't hurt. Maybe as an interim solution try 100 mg Viagra when you really need some wood. I mean Cialis is a great choice normally but the guy is needing a stiff one and the V gives the hardest ones. Loads of Letro though - never did it that high... never will now. And the whole clomid thing man - not the solution at all considering. IMO

deleteduser0002
02-09-2009, 10:24 PM
how is the hcg gonna help him...

you can experiment, get a compound that aromatizes heavily (dbol) and chew on those for a week, while taking nolva

He was using it anyway, plus HCG does help cause some aromatization ,he could use that at the moment.

dinosaur
03-09-2009, 08:58 AM
So still couldn't complete my sexual performance last night, but was able to bust my own nut this morning.

I'll run around 1000mg prop per week, 20mg nolva ed, 500iu hcg ed until I'm back to normal.

Will taking dbol actually raise my estrogen levels, say if I take it for a week. Did I understand that post correctly? Anyone else agree?

Krozone
03-09-2009, 09:09 AM
Hey Dino

Be safe. Changing up, adding this and removing that will most likely Muck your system up further. Look to stabilize rather than the quick fix. I'd stick with the Prop, Nolva and hgc till you get back.

My .02

Kro!

deleteduser0002
03-09-2009, 10:09 AM
Hey Dino

Be safe. Changing up, adding this and removing that will most likely Muck your system up further. Look to stabilize rather than the quick fix. I'd stick with the Prop, Nolva and hgc till you get back.

My .02

Kro!

I agree. Making knee jerk changes to you drug regime is exactly what got you into trouble in the first place. Just settle down (you'll be fine in no time) and just use the KISS method until you recover. If you start ****ing around too much you'll likely just end up with too much estrogen in your system and freaking out because your getting gyno symptoms again.

zziggzzigg
03-09-2009, 06:14 PM
I agree. Making knee jerk changes to you drug regime is exactly what got you into trouble in the first place. Just settle down (you'll be fine in no time) and just use the KISS method until you recover. If you start ****ing around too much you'll likely just end up with too much estrogen in your system and freaking out because your getting gyno symptoms again.


I agree with the above

the problem in the thread title is the "asap" part, this is sometimes something you can't panic and fix quickly as it often goes the other way and makes matters worse. A ****ed up libido sometimes takes time and patience

nisser
03-09-2009, 07:12 PM
So still couldn't complete my sexual performance last night, but was able to bust my own nut this morning.

I'll run around 1000mg prop per week, 20mg nolva ed, 500iu hcg ed until I'm back to normal.

Will taking dbol actually raise my estrogen levels, say if I take it for a week. Did I understand that post correctly? Anyone else agree?

it might also give you gyno. Seriously , just step away from your medicine cabinet and let time do it's job. that's your BEST option.

dinosaur
03-09-2009, 09:30 PM
Thanks guys. You're all right and I appreciate the posts.

It's not easy to wait in regards to libidio (obviously), but I guess I don't have a choice. I will continue with the prop nolva and hcg until I'm back and not make any sudden or drastic changes. Let's just hope I get back to normal sooner than later.

I'll post when I'm back to superman status.

nisser
04-09-2009, 12:53 AM
Yeah I know it's not easy. I've had low libido for nearly a month now after PCT; it's part of the game. Sometimes it takes time.

tony_canuck
04-09-2009, 11:05 AM
i agree with the guys, i know you're panicking a bit because hey, let's face it that problem really sucks. but you gotta give it some time to work itself out. pumping in a ton of more gear isn't a quick fix. take a bit of prop/hcg and overtime you'll be fine. relax and take a few days off from the girlfriend, you'll be ready in no time

collin
05-09-2009, 11:34 PM
I started noticing some gyno in my left nipple while running Test Prop and Tren Ace. I panicked and took 5-7.5mg of Letrozole and 80-120mg of Nolvadex ED for a few days. Now, I can't keep my dick up for longer than 5 minutes.

I stopped using the letro and cut out the tren. I've been injecting my prop ED and started using clomid and hcg, desperately trying to get my sh*t together.

Thoughts on how to get my sexlife back?
get some proviron

collin
05-09-2009, 11:37 PM
i agree with the guys, i know you're panicking a bit because hey, let's face it that problem really sucks. but you gotta give it some time to work itself out. pumping in a ton of more gear isn't a quick fix. take a bit of prop/hcg and overtime you'll be fine. relax and take a few days off from the girlfriend, you'll be ready in no time

Yes this is true but look it avatar should put your dick up for a while

collin
05-09-2009, 11:39 PM
Yeah I know it's not easy. I've had low libido for nearly a month now after PCT; it's part of the game. Sometimes it takes time.
Me too did a Test E tren E shut me off couldnt even jack off

dinosaur
07-09-2009, 11:56 AM
I'm back!!!

phew... That was the worst week of my life.

C-money
07-09-2009, 11:58 AM
lesson learned chief! congrats

dinosaur
07-09-2009, 01:27 PM
lesson learned chief! congrats

lesson learned indeed... thanks for the help everyone