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waderow
01-09-2009, 10:45 PM
Hey guys,
I have a home brew of var, which is crashing....

was put into peg 300 and everclear.

Highest concentration made - 20mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Oxandrolone powder you will need:
9.8 ml's of PEG 300
39.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

I made a 5 gram batch at that ratio, and it began to crash after cooling.

I am guessing 2 grams crashed out....



any suggestions?

ryankely
02-09-2009, 12:52 AM
I made some winny with that same type of formula. It seemed to me right away that their would need to be way more peg to make it hold.(I used peg 400 and 151 bacardi) Not sure of the ratio as I just kept adding more peg when I heated it before I added the rest with 151. Anyway I would suggest to add more peg and reheat. You will have to add more powder also to keep your mg/ml correct. I made 10g at a time, 25mg/ml. Added like 6 oz of peg.

cdnsoldier
02-09-2009, 01:58 AM
Hey guys,
I have a home brew of var, which is crashing....

was put into peg 300 and everclear.

Highest concentration made - 20mg/ml
Per 1 gram of Oxandrolone powder you will need:
9.8 ml's of PEG 300
39.2 ml's of 190 Proof Grain Alcohol

I made a 5 gram batch at that ratio, and it began to crash after cooling.

I am guessing 2 grams crashed out....



any suggestions?

You can put Var in hydrochloride Acid and it will "crash".

The best you get with Anavar is a suspension. It will never 100% dissolve. Neva'.

Just use a dropper and shake it violently before dosing. Unless you want to heat it up all the time .

cdnsoldier
02-09-2009, 01:59 AM
I made some winny with that same type of formula. It seemed to me right away that their would need to be way more peg to make it hold.(I used peg 400 and 151 bacardi) Not sure of the ratio as I just kept adding more peg when I heated it before I added the rest with 151. Anyway I would suggest to add more peg and reheat. You will have to add more powder also to keep your mg/ml correct. I made 10g at a time, 25mg/ml. Added like 6 oz of peg.

Won't work with Var.

C-money
02-09-2009, 02:00 AM
Damn i gotta learn how to brew!

cdnsoldier
02-09-2009, 02:03 AM
Damn i gotta learn how to brew!


Learn? It's like making Anabolic Kool Aid. He's talking oral here.

waderow
02-09-2009, 08:58 AM
You can put Var in hydrochloride Acid and it will "crash".

The best you get with Anavar is a suspension. It will never 100% dissolve. Neva'.

Just use a dropper and shake it violently before dosing. Unless you want to heat it up all the time .

thanks man.

ryankely
02-09-2009, 12:54 PM
Won't work with Var.

good to know, I think I capped my var last time.

cdnsoldier
02-09-2009, 02:25 PM
good to know, I think I capped my var last time.


It's still good to make the suspension. You just need a wide mouth dropper (most pharmacies will give you one for free) and need to shake it before dosing. You should get at least 80% dissolving power from 151.

greekgod
02-09-2009, 04:35 PM
It's still good to make the suspension. You just need a wide mouth dropper (most pharmacies will give you one for free) and need to shake it before dosing. You should get at least 80% dissolving power from 151.

Should I even worry about trying to get it to dissolve at all? I'm tempted to just use plain old water.

cdnsoldier
02-09-2009, 05:24 PM
Should I even worry about trying to get it to dissolve at all? I'm tempted to just use plain old water.

You want to bake an anavar cake? It will be pretty hard to handle if you use water Think doughy. Best is just go to the liquor store, buy a bottle of 151 and use that. Water will make a mess of it.

greekgod
02-09-2009, 06:04 PM
You want to bake an anavar cake? It will be pretty hard to handle if you use water Think doughy. Best is just go to the liquor store, buy a bottle of 151 and use that. Water will make a mess of it.

That's a great idea! I'm baking an anavar cake 2nite...lol.

cdnsoldier
02-09-2009, 09:01 PM
That's a great idea! I'm baking an anavar cake 2nite...lol.

I wonder if it could be done? I have a bread maker. I should add 5 grams of Var to the recipe and make some Anavar bread. Should be fairly evenly distrubuted since it mixes for an hour. Hmmm......... Kind of tempted to tell you the truth. Would made my girl lose a few pounds that's for sure.

ryankely
02-09-2009, 09:35 PM
I wonder if it could be done? I have a bread maker. I should add 5 grams of Var to the recipe and make some Anavar bread. Should be fairly evenly distrubuted since it mixes for an hour. Hmmm......... Kind of tempted to tell you the truth. Would made my girl lose a few pounds that's for sure.

That's probally a great idea for mixing. I know those machines need the shit out of the dough. the girlfriend thing would also work win,win!

kloan
03-09-2009, 06:22 AM
haha, not a bad idea at all... i wonder at what temperature does it become inactive.. bread makers get pretty hot, dont they?

tex
03-09-2009, 07:48 AM
Would made my girl lose a few pounds that's for sure. drugging your woman with steroid bread....

cdnsoldier
03-09-2009, 04:30 PM
drugging your woman with steroid bread....

Do you really think anyone would make Anavar bread? Or feed it to their unknowing loved ones? We are shooting the shit here. Having some fun you Killjoy.

grindtight
03-09-2009, 09:20 PM
You want to bake an anavar cake? It will be pretty hard to handle if you use water Think doughy. Best is just go to the liquor store, buy a bottle of 151 and use that. Water will make a mess of it.

whats 151??

cdnsoldier
03-09-2009, 09:22 PM
whats 151??


Rum. It's the highest alcohol you can get w/o presc. here in Canada- 76%.

tex
03-09-2009, 11:16 PM
Do you really think anyone would make Anavar bread? Or feed it to their unknowing loved ones? We are shooting the shit here. Having some fun you Killjoy. i was just commenting.....maybe you should adjust your dose....ive baked you a big ole cockmeat sandwich....time to feed the big baby ;)

cdnsoldier
04-09-2009, 12:10 AM
i was just commenting.....maybe you should adjust your dose....ive baked you a big ole cockmeat sandwich....time to feed the big baby ;)

Depends, how big is the sandwich? I like them big. Big and dark if you catch me.

tex
04-09-2009, 12:55 AM
Depends, how big is the sandwich? I like them big. Big and dark if you catch me. on a plate ;)

cdnsoldier
04-09-2009, 01:01 AM
on a plate ;)

How the ... forget it.....

tex
04-09-2009, 01:38 AM
its better we dont ask questions with something like this.....lol ;)

Born2Juice4Ever
04-09-2009, 07:58 AM
its better we dont ask questions with something like this.....lol ;)



HOLY SHIT!!!:wtf WHERE do you guys find this kind of pictures...oh wait!! Better not ask those kinds of questions, God only knows what the next post will be:mock


Sorry to be late to the thread: List me please:ht



B2J

shivsean
04-09-2009, 09:30 AM
You can put Var in hydrochloride Acid and it will "crash".

The best you get with Anavar is a suspension. It will never 100% dissolve. Neva'.

Just use a dropper and shake it violently before dosing. Unless you want to heat it up all the time .

Soldier, are you 100% positive about the powder never getting dissolved the point of solution?

I only ask as I get an oral, liquid Var in a 60ml dropper bottle that is labled as 50mg/ml. The chemist wont say what the carrier is but by the taste it is 100 % Everclear (200 proof) we get in the states.

C-money
04-09-2009, 10:32 AM
HOLY SHIT!!!:wtf WHERE do you guys find this kind of pictures...oh wait!! Better not ask those kinds of questions, God only knows what the next post will be:mock


Sorry to be late to the thread: List me please:ht



B2J

No shit eh B2J.. tex was obviously searching for cockmeat sandwiches when he stumble on that pic:D

hyperlite32
04-09-2009, 10:39 AM
That is nasty... Not what I wanted to see in a thread about brewed var. NOT happy.

waderow
04-09-2009, 12:43 PM
Rum. It's the highest alcohol you can get w/o presc. here in Canada- 76%.

what is everclear because I can buy it anywhere

(its 190 proof)

waderow
04-09-2009, 12:46 PM
It is not a suspension, when var is put in alcohol. I do not know what I got dissolved, but probably 10mg/ml at best.

The crystals are too heavy to suspend.

For liquid var, ONLY use 100% PEG 300 or 400.


The only way I can take my var is by microwaving it to boiling point twice a day, and shaking it for 5 minutes before taking.


It would be best to makes caps, and I will NEVER make liquid var again unless in straight PEG (which I only assume works and suspends the var).

In my PEG alcohol mixture as described in post 1, the var is crashed out, and too heavy to suspend. YOu shake the piss out of it, and by the time you get your dropper in, its at the bottom

cdnsoldier
04-09-2009, 05:08 PM
Soldier, are you 100% positive about the powder never getting dissolved the point of solution?

I only ask as I get an oral, liquid Var in a 60ml dropper bottle that is labled as 50mg/ml. The chemist wont say what the carrier is but by the taste it is 100 % Everclear (200 proof) we get in the states.


You can get a pretty good dissolve with 99% Ethanol. There will always be small bits at the bottom but nothing you can't deal with. But we are talking 20mg/ml max. 50mg/ml of var and it's fully dissolved? I'd be worried. That's a heavy solution for anavar. I have never seen that @ 50mg/ml. Take a look at the solution is it 100% dissolved or are there little chunks? The other option is he did dissolve in Everclear or whatever and used a cheescloth or such to "clean it up", but that would make it lose potency,

In fact Grain alcohol or even 151 work better than any of the lab solvents imo. I get a usable solution using 151. It's as good as BA. Don't use DMSO and make sure your container is 100% dry before adding solvent.

nisser
04-09-2009, 05:49 PM
Because I'm awesome:

Solubility of anavar:

1g in 5200mL of water
1g in 57mL alcohol
1g in 5ml chloroform *
1g in 860ml ether *
1g in 69ml acetone *

*Don't be stupid

So that means at most you can make 17mg/mL with alcohol. Anything higher and he's using a mixture of shit you should never be ingesting, stay away.

waderow
04-09-2009, 06:31 PM
Because I'm awesome:

Solubility of anavar:

1g in 5200mL of water
1g in 57mL alcohol
1g in 5ml chloroform *
1g in 860ml ether *
1g in 69ml acetone *

*Don't be stupid

So that means at most you can make 17mg/mL with alcohol. Anything higher and he's using a mixture of shit you should never be ingesting, stay away.



that would make sense. My everclear/peg 300 solution crashed out at a guess a couple grams but hard to tell when looking at ****ing crystals on the bottom of my media bottle.

I brewed a 20mg/ml solution, but when hot, it nearly all dissolves.

With the peg300 displacing alcohol, I prob have a 15mg/ml solution, and 1.25 grams sitting in the bottom of my bottle

plus the everclear is not pure

LIVEHARD
05-09-2009, 01:25 AM
Learn? It's like making Anabolic Kool Aid. He's talking oral here.

make me some orange flavored T-E

collin
07-09-2009, 11:25 AM
Should I even worry about trying to get it to dissolve at all? I'm tempted to just use plain old water.

ya I wouldnt do that

shivsean
15-09-2009, 04:41 PM
Because I'm awesome:

Solubility of anavar:

1g in 5200mL of water
1g in 57mL alcohol
1g in 5ml chloroform *
1g in 860ml ether *
1g in 69ml acetone *

*Don't be stupid

So that means at most you can make 17mg/mL with alcohol. Anything higher and he's using a mixture of shit you should never be ingesting, stay away.


WOW - I got to get me some of the chloroform :)

Little late to tell me NOT to ingest the stuf...or the label is wrong and it is WAY underdosed.

Here is his list of orals:

60ml vials oral

Liquid Anavar 50mg/ml
Liquid Winstrol 75mg/ml
Liquid Turinabol 50mg/ml
Liquid Methyltrinolone 500mcg/ml (oral trenbolone)
Liquid Anadrol 75mg/ml
Liquid Dianabol 50mg/ml
Liquid Proviron 50mg/ml

The Var label would indicate he got 3 grams into into solution in 60ml of ?????

PS: the lquid has little to no sediment and it is the color of diluted cranberry juice.

nisser
15-09-2009, 07:41 PM
He could have easily done that in 2.5mL of chloroform and 57.5mL of alcohol. The alcohol smell might also be strong enough to overpower chloroform; I don't know for sure though. Chloroform has a very easily identifiable smell; it can't be missed and it'll probably make you faint if you smell it for too many seconds. It has a very obnoxious smell.

It's either that or he's selling you something else.

Read up on chloroform; one of the many listed side affects is it's potential to be a carcinogen. I don't suggest you use that concoction personally, if you value your health. He can't bend the rules of physics so there's nothing more to it.

Doryphorus
15-09-2009, 11:52 PM
So I realize I run the risk of sounding stupid here, but what is the point of brewing var as opposed to capping it? Higher bioavailability or something?

greekgod
16-09-2009, 12:18 AM
So I realize I run the risk of sounding stupid here, but what is the point of brewing var as opposed to capping it? Higher bioavailability or something?

Capping is a major pain in the butt if you only want to make a small amount for personal use.

Doryphorus
16-09-2009, 02:08 AM
Capping is a major pain in the butt if you only want to make a small amount for personal use.

Aah, makes sense. Thanks bro!

waderow
16-09-2009, 09:49 AM
Aah, makes sense. Thanks bro!

I will never make a liquid brew of Var ever again. Biggest pain in the ass. I have to reheat and shake for 2 minutes x2 daily.

Make caps with var.... pain in the ass or not

shivsean
16-09-2009, 10:23 AM
He could have easily done that in 2.5mL of chloroform and 57.5mL of alcohol. The alcohol smell might also be strong enough to overpower chloroform; I don't know for sure though. Chloroform has a very easily identifiable smell; it can't be missed and it'll probably make you faint if you smell it for too many seconds. It has a very obnoxious smell.

It's either that or he's selling you something else.

Read up on chloroform; one of the many listed side affects is it's potential to be a carcinogen. I don't suggest you use that concoction personally, if you value your health. He can't bend the rules of physics so there's nothing more to it.

Thanks Nisser!

Allen
18-09-2009, 08:54 AM
I'm kind of new here. I just have a quick question. Why go through the trouble of brewing anavar when you can just take it in tab form or in capsule form? What's the difference?

waderow
18-09-2009, 10:50 AM
the same question could be asked "why bother making caps when you can just brew it and make liquid var?