Your biceps ever sore next day?

[CanadianIron]

...cause mine arent.

The last few months i've been smoking my bi's and they've definately been getting stronger, however. They arent getting much bigger and Im not getting that same level of soreness I did when I was newer to lifting and not like a good chest/back or tri workout. I can make almost any muscle on my body sore the day after, except my bi's.

Is this normal with bi's or should I be changing my workout style.

Usually when I do bi's, ill do something like this.

Standing dumbell curls, straight legs, strict form.

50 X 12
60 X 10
70 X 8

Preacher curl, wide grip ez curl bar

80 X 12
100 X 10
110 X 8
110 X 6

Hammer curl, rope X cable.

140 X 10
170 X 8
200 X 6


This would be an example of what I did last night, but I do substitute in barbell curls, incline dumbell curls and hammer dumbell curls

And ill finish off with 21's of Ill rep out with a light weight to finish off with a good pump or whatever.

Am I doing good, what can I change to break the 17" mark? I've been working my bi's and tris like crazy since the beginning of the year and I just CAN NOT break 17"s. Should I be reducing weight and increasing reps or the opposite? I will admit i had pretty crappy form when I was a newb, but i concider myself pretty strict to form now, unless im doing like 80lb curls I usually cheat them up and slow them down.

Ps. Avatar is from last october, my arms measure an inch bigger now*

[ironwill]

...cause mine arent.

The last few months i've been smoking my bi's and they've definately been getting stronger, however. They arent getting much bigger and Im not getting that same level of soreness I did when I was newer to lifting and not like a good chest/back or tri workout. I can make almost any muscle on my body sore the day after, except my bi's.

Is this normal with bi's or should I be changing my workout style.

Usually when I do bi's, ill do something like this.

Standing dumbell curls, straight legs, strict form.

50 X 12
60 X 10
70 X 8

Preacher curl, wide grip ez curl bar

80 X 12
100 X 10
110 X 8
110 X 6

Hammer curl, rope X cable.

140 X 10
170 X 8
200 X 6


This would be an example of what I did last night, but I do substitute in barbell curls, incline dumbell curls and hammer dumbell curls

And ill finish off with 21's of Ill rep out with a light weight to finish off with a good pump or whatever.

Am I doing good, what can I change to break the 17" mark? I've been working my bi's and tris like crazy since the beginning of the year and I just CAN NOT break 17"s. Should I be reducing weight and increasing reps or the opposite? I will admit i had pretty crappy form when I was a newb, but i concider myself pretty strict to form now, unless im doing like 80lb curls I usually cheat them up and slow them down.

Ps. Avatar is from last october, my arms measure an inch bigger now*
first off, you need to eat to grow arms, and unless you are hitting them 2x per week, thats not a lot of work you are doing for bis, and what do you couple them up with??

[L3]

Standing dumbell curls, straight legs, strict form.

50 X 12
60 X 10
70 X 8

.....


what can I change to break the 17" mark?

i dont buy it

[C-money]

i dont buy it

glad im not the only one thinking that:p

[waderow]

i dont buy it

me neither hahaha

[Danger]

Seriously, you single arm curl 70lbs+ with strict form and dont have 17" arms yet? Must be a lack of food then.

[CanadianIron]

Well im flattered, I dont really care if you believe me though. I just would like to know what you guys do for size.

I eat a lot, usually 4000-5000 cals/day 160-200g whey protein and 100-150 meat and dairy protein etc. Im definately looking to improve the quality of my diet though, i down a lot of protein but I admit im bad about complex carbs and good fats etc. Im alergic to wheat, eggs and a few other things so it makes my diet difficult. Hense the "anyone know of any good sites" in the food section.

I work bi's twice a week minimum and last night I worked them after shoulders. A lot of the time I'll do them alone or before legs. I used to work them after back when they were warm, but I prefer to nail them when they're fresh and full of energy.

[CanadianIron]

first off, you need to eat to grow arms, and unless you are hitting them 2x per week, thats not a lot of work you are doing for bis, and what do you couple them up with??

What would you recommend for a good number of sets during a bi workout?

I usually try to do 1 narrow grib exercise, 1 widegrip, 1 medium and 1 hammer grip, usually 3-4 sets per.... should I be doing more working sets? ie. 4-5 sets per exercise?

[CanadianIron]

Seriously, you single arm curl 70lbs+ with strict form and dont have 17" arms yet? Must be a lack of food then.

Not saying anyone here does it, but I dont e-stat and measure my arms when they're pumped and i dont use a slacked tape. I measure them in the evening and measure them honestly so I can actually keep track of them.

Last Feb when I did a test e cycle they were measuring 17 for a few weeks, but they came back down during PCT. They're stuck at around 16.5-16.75 right now. Left is bigger than right by an 1/8".

[tiramisu]

Eat more, put on 20 pounds of body mass, plenty of compound lifting (squats, deads, bench, rows) and stop overtraining your arms with volume. Instead treat them like you would any other body part and progressively increase the weight.

[ironwill]

What would you recommend for a good number of sets during a bi workout?

I usually try to do 1 narrow grib exercise, 1 widegrip, 1 medium and 1 hammer grip, usually 3-4 sets per.... should I be doing more working sets? ie. 4-5 sets per exercise?

well i never really thought twice about the numbers you put up, as i lift quite a bit more than that...But what do i know??? I cant judge....so assuming what you say is true......
i would do 2 work sets after warmup, of straight barbell curls, heavy as possible, like only 8 reps max..
2 sets of dumbell curls after warm up, with good form, even cheat a bit at the end...
2 sets of concentration curls......then maybe a 7 set to failure fst technique.with cable curls, or a set of 21s...That is if hitting once per week, if you are hitting them 2 times per week that all changes....do some drop sets, rest pauses, or what have you.....
You will gain an appreciable amnt of mass from going heavy on back day, be sure to have some rest days in between, unless you do back on the same day, then again, it will be a bit different....
This is all null and void if you arent eating enough...

[C-money]

Honestly im a big believer in low volume/moderate weight for bis... I only do about 10- 12 sets a week for bis... im 5'7" and have lean 18 and a quarter inch arms.. i truthfully think you are overtraining... it seems everyone i know with a good pair of biceps dont go nuts on high volume/high sets, and they do very strict curling.. but each to his own, people are different

[baza]

Put your back and elbows against the wall, and tell me if you still do 70lbs for 8.

[ironwill]

Honestly im a big believer in low volume/moderate weight for bis... I only do about 10- 12 sets a week for bis... im 5'7" and have lean 18 and a quarter inch arms.. i truthfully think you are overtraining... it seems everyone i know with a good pair of biceps dont go nuts on high volume/high sets, and they do very strict curling.. but each to his own, people are different

I agree, im sporting 19.75s right now (lean and off cycle 12 weeks, out of gym for 4 weeks), usually in the 20-21 inch off season, im just getting going for this yr...lol...And as you see i have 6 full sets i would do, and maybe a FST 7 at the end...I am a believer in low volume, and hi intensity as well.....But not everyone can get in the zone to get all you need out of it for arms...Many variables, i found heavy back trng, to be my best friend when growing arms....

[C-money]

I agree, im sporting 19.75s right now (lean and off cycle 12 weeks, out of gym for 4 weeks), usually in the 20-21 inch off season, im just getting going for this yr...lol...And as you see i have 6 full sets i would do, and maybe a FST 7 at the end...I am a believer in low volume, and hi intensity as well.....But not everyone can get in the zone to get all you need out of it for arms...Many variables, i found heavy back trng, to be my best friend when growing arms....

Did i say i have lean 18 1/4 inch arms?? oh i meant a lean 19 1/4......jk.. you friggen beast!:D youre making me feel small now!

[ironwill]

lol......sorry........Not trying to brag.....OK i kinda was....:laugh
I hope to break 21 this yr...Ill get fat if i have to...lol
Im 6 foot, so it doesnt look as large as yours....ooops, that was meant for penis length thread....haha

[LIVEHARD]

glad im not the only one thinking that:p

strong boy freak of nature maybe ?? I have 20.5 in arms I bench 315 for 4-6 reps i weight 280ish at 6'4.5'' and i dont do 70 DB curls or 120lbs preachers maybe 115 for 4-6 reps with a ez curl on a good day

[LIVEHARD]

lol......sorry........Not trying to brag.....OK i kinda was....:laugh
I hope to break 21 this yr...Ill get fat if i have to...lol
I'm 6 foot, so it doesn't look as large as yours....ooops, that was meant for penis length thread....haha

ya ya on the pee pee thing CC backed you up big boy

I guess you hide behind the fish tank or a jug of water to confuse her LOL

[CanadianIron]

My intention wasnt to create a pissing contest, but generally I would concider myself quite strong for my size, people usually compliment me on how much I lift for what I look like.

Regardless, Im percieving that most people would agree high intensity low volume is better for getting the bigger bi's. Ill try that for the next month or 2 and let you guys know how it works out. Im the definition of hard gainer so I am always eating like a cow and trying to gain weight, i literally have the metabolism of a crack addict, hense the annoying posts. :a+

[LIVEHARD]

My intention wasnt to create a pissing contest, but generally I would concider myself quite strong for my size, people usually compliment me on how much I lift for what I look like.

Regardless, Im percieving that most people would agree high intensity low volume is better for getting the bigger bi's. Ill try that for the next month or 2 and let you guys know how it works out. Im the definition of hard gainer so I am always eating like a cow and trying to gain weight, i literally have the metabolism of a crack addict, hense the annoying posts. :a+

Lucky you I look at the wrong food and i put on 5 LBS

[ironwill]

strong boy freak of nature maybe ?? I have 20.5 in arms I bench 315 for 4-6 reps i weight 280ish at 6'4.5'' and i dont do 70 DB curls or 120lbs preachers maybe 115 for 4-6 reps with a ez curl on a good day
you have very long appendages, so it would make sense...The mechanical advantage on a shorter arm is amazing.........
i do 80s or 90s for 8-10 reps, with decent form, but my arms are much shorter than a dude your height....
Im pretty sure aladdin does 100 lb dumbells..
But there are some strong dudes on here for sure....
Shortdave is another strong dude that comes to mind...

There is a guy on my crew at work that is getting big numbers...He is going to be a freak, real soon......Im helping him out but honestly he doesnt need much...I really want to see him compete, but not next yr...lolol...so im throwing him off course for a yr at least...lol...you reading this BIGABOY.....get on stage you freak.....

[LIVEHARD]

you have very long appendages, so it would make sense...The mechanical advantage on a shorter arm is amazing.........
i do 80s or 90s for 8-10 reps, with decent form, but my arms are much shorter than a dude your height....
Im pretty sure aladdin does 100 lb dumbells..
But there are some strong dudes on here for sure....
Shortdave is another strong dude that comes to mind...

I agree I have a long range of motion for sure and It can be prone to injury if I'm not careful I look like a NBA player on Gear to look huge like I was when I was in my early 20's Its 300-320 lbs for sure.

Thank god I grow legs well i dont squat well but I press and hack massive LBS I know i pack allot of fast twitch even as a kid i could dunk a ball with ease and i broke 11sec in the 100 in school not by much but still under

at 40 I can still out run most kids in the area and i can still dunk easy at 280

My muscle endurance is pretty good as well i can still do bag work for cardio

[ironwill]

I agree I have a long range of motion for sure and It can be prone to injury if I'm not careful I look like a NBA player on Gear to look huge like I was when I was in my early 20's Its 300-320 lbs for sure.

Thank god I grow legs well i dont squat well but I press and hack massive LBS I know i pack allot of fast twitch even as a kid i could dunk a ball with ease and i broke 11sec in the 100 in school not by much but still under

at 40 I can still out run most kids in the area and i can still dunk easy at 280

My muscle endurance is pretty good as well i can still do bag work for cardio
Why are you chasing boys in the neighborhood???....that is all i want to know...., what do you do when you catch them...??
Are you catholic??

[LIVEHARD]

Why are you chasing boys in the neighborhood???....that is all i want to know...., what do you do when you catch them...??
Are you catholic??

Nice i have kids 16-11-and 5 How is life out west

I have done some work at Q1 in the PEG now epic lighting they do shows for the other CO So i dont see the peg much any more now its NYNY or VEGAS

[ironwill]

damn, you didnt even bite...lol...i fail at humor...:)

[tiramisu]

My intention wasnt to create a pissing contest, but generally I would concider myself quite strong for my size, people usually compliment me on how much I lift for what I look like.

Regardless, Im percieving that most people would agree high intensity low volume is better for getting the bigger bi's. Ill try that for the next month or 2 and let you guys know how it works out. Im the definition of hard gainer so I am always eating like a cow and trying to gain weight, i literally have the metabolism of a crack addict, hense the annoying posts. :a+

As much as you think you are eating enough, if you aren't gaining weight you need to eat more.

You may have to give up running marathons in your spare time as well.

When younger I used to ride 50km every day, move furniture on the weekends, run about 20 miles a week and work out 4 times a week. I also used to wonder why I couldn't seem to get over 185 even though I was very strong for my size.

I wasn't a terribly bright kid but thinking back I was pretty obscenely fit.

[LIVEHARD]

damn, you didn't even bite...lol...i fail at humor...:)

Sorry bro I cant bite at that one my most hated thing in the world is a sex offender and our society condones a protects them WTF

they hurt and ruin kids and we give them special housing and privileges

I will mail you a thread on Irish priests in Ireland over 160 children raped starved and murdered and the Govt over there suppressed it said the church was way to powerful so the made it go away

Ps it was funny and you have a great sence of humor Its just something I have a sore spot for a friend of mine saved a women from being assaulted a few years ago while walking his dog. He lost his dog and he was convicted of aggravated assault ?? The court thought he should of used his phone and it wasn't his place to inflict punishment hence my boys life is ruined.

[ironwill]

I agree, i do to...but my mouth cant keep up to my brain.....lol....and im a slow typist as well, thank god, you should see the shit i think twice about as im typing...lol...my apologies, not meaning to offend bro...


sorry, on above post, i hit edit instead of quote, nothing is changed in your reply, just hit wrong button....its time to flock off home...

[LIVEHARD]

I agree, i do to...but my mouth cant keep up to my brain.....lol....and im a slow typist as well, thank god, you should see the shit i think twice about as im typing...lol...my apologies, not meaning to offend bro...


sorry, on above post, i hit edit instead of quote, nothing is changed in your reply, just hit wrong button....its time to flock off home...

No offence taken it was funny I just allways make that point about the subject I know your a good man CC says so and when a women you live with say that it speaks big time

[C-money]

All this heavy dumbell curling has got me thinking.. next bicep workout im gonna push myself to go as heavy as i can.. usually the heaviest i go is 60 pounders.. but its super strict.. see how many reps in the 70 - 80 pound range i can get with a little more slack form

[kloan]

i find the amount i can life is limited to the amount of pain i can put up with coming from my forearms.. i life too heavy and the bones start to hurt.. well not the actual bones, but right in there.. dunno what it is, but it hurts like a bitch... kinda like shin splints.

[CanadianIron]

That pain you speak of is extremely common, however it is not common for dumbell curls.

You should only get it doing barbell curls/ez bar curls. I've never heard of anyone getting it from dumbells. Try wearing wrist straps.

As for putting on weight, i'm always trying to eat as much as I can, its a never ending story for people like me, it becomes a pain in the ass trying to eat 5000-6000+ cals a day just to maintain a certain body weight.

[ironwill]

All this heavy dumbell curling has got me thinking.. next bicep workout im gonna push myself to go as heavy as i can.. usually the heaviest i go is 60 pounders.. but its super strict.. see how many reps in the 70 - 80 pound range i can get with a little more slack form

Hell yeah man....ill guarantee that once you get the weight out of your head youll amaze yourself...the second time you pick them up on set 2 they will feel much lighter...dont know why but it does...

[Ritch]

You`ve posted some good numbers concerning weight. I see alot of guys in the gym using some weights that are considered heavy, especially for their size. Guys using 40lbs on single arm preacher curls, doing 80-90lbs dumbell presses for chest. Thing is I`m not so sure they`re lifting with the intended muscles. Lot`s of secondary work seems to take over the lifting process with these guys. Do you think you fall into this type of lifter? Or are you "all bicep" when you do biceps? Just using your delts in the movement can make you pull much more weight.

[O-Train]

This is off topic but the thread reminded me of a guy in the gym who trained for arm wrestling. He would do one arm static holds (90 degree elbow bend) on the preacher bench with a 120lb dumbell. Wasn't a very big guy but his forearms were huge.

[L3]

That pain you speak of is extremely common, however it is not common for dumbell curls.

You should only get it doing barbell curls/ez bar curls.


the pain is from squeezing the handle too hard while doing the curl

[Danger]

Tried Chinups? Probably the most under utilized bicept exercise ever. There is deffinatly something about using your bi's above your head that you just cant get with anyother exercise.

I love doing static holds at the top of a chinup between sets of DB/BB exercises I find it forces the blood to stay in the muscle and then you can get a really good stretch and pump.

Canadian Muscle have you considered that mabey your tricepts are lagging? and thats why the arm measurement isint going up anymore.

[kloan]

the pain is from squeezing the handle too hard while doing the curl

this is the first time anyone's suggested this! i'm def going to keep this in mind when i lift.. i hope you're right :)

[ironwill]

This is off topic but the thread reminded me of a guy in the gym who trained for arm wrestling. He would do one arm static holds (90 degree elbow bend) on the preacher bench with a 120lb dumbell. Wasn't a very big guy but his forearms were huge.
I was a competitive arm wrestler, it is a common technique for strength building in a static fashion, as that is what an arm wrestle can entail.....:)

[L3]

this is the first time anyone's suggested this! i'm def going to keep this in mind when i lift.. i hope you're right :)

i have the same issue.. my solution:

-switch to BB curls
-get the forearm massaged by a RMT (this ****ing HURTS)
-ice 20mins on 20 mins off, repeat 3x a day

also, as gay as this sounds, avoid strainig the forearm pushing open heavy doors, lifting water jugs

if you want to use DBs for curls, start doing them bent over Arnold style, in one of the training vids on CBB Radio Ron P. is doing them for arm training.

[waderow]

i find the amount i can life is limited to the amount of pain i can put up with coming from my forearms.. i life too heavy and the bones start to hurt.. well not the actual bones, but right in there.. dunno what it is, but it hurts like a bitch... kinda like shin splints.

take a break dude, and then warm up real good prior to arm day, and stretch afterwards.

[waderow]

also, as gay as this sounds, avoid strainig the forearm pushing open heavy doors, lifting water jugs


not gay.. its true. I often cause minor injuries to myself at work or in life, by doing things at work or whatever. YOu need to be careful

[waderow]

...cause mine arent.

The last few months i've been smoking my bi's and they've definately been getting stronger, however. They arent getting much bigger and Im not getting that same level of soreness I did when I was newer to lifting and not like a good chest/back or tri workout. I can make almost any muscle on my body sore the day after, except my bi's.

Is this normal with bi's or should I be changing my workout style.

Usually when I do bi's, ill do something like this.

Standing dumbell curls, straight legs, strict form.

50 X 12
60 X 10
70 X 8

Preacher curl, wide grip ez curl bar

80 X 12
100 X 10
110 X 8
110 X 6

Hammer curl, rope X cable.

140 X 10
170 X 8
200 X 6


This would be an example of what I did last night, but I do substitute in barbell curls, incline dumbell curls and hammer dumbell curls

And ill finish off with 21's of Ill rep out with a light weight to finish off with a good pump or whatever.

Am I doing good, what can I change to break the 17" mark? I've been working my bi's and tris like crazy since the beginning of the year and I just CAN NOT break 17"s. Should I be reducing weight and increasing reps or the opposite? I will admit i had pretty crappy form when I was a newb, but i concider myself pretty strict to form now, unless im doing like 80lb curls I usually cheat them up and slow them down.

Ps. Avatar is from last october, my arms measure an inch bigger now*


If this is all true dude, I think you need to concentrate more on triceps to get past your 17" mark. Close grip presses will really bump you up there.
Switch routine perhaps, and work tris and bis together

[ironwill]

I really like doing reverse bench for tris as well......damn i can really get them to burn.......Dorian yates claims you need to do overhead raises as well to make triceps look deeper and thicker in the main muscle of the tris...

[Timbo89]

i dont find it that hard to believe that he does 70's. are you doing hammer curls?

[AlladdinSane]

Hell yeah man....ill guarantee that once you get the weight out of your head youll amaze yourself...the second time you pick them up on set 2 they will feel much lighter...dont know why but it does...

This is true.

[CanadianIron]

i dont find it that hard to believe that he does 70's. are you doing hammer curls?

I do hammer curls all the time, i can hammer curl more than regular dumbell curl. I generally find when I dumbell curl 70 or cheat 75's or 80s, my forearms arent strong enough to keep the dumbell parallel to the ground when im curling the weight, my forearms are generally stronger for hammers.

I had a smoking back workout last night, my bi's didnt feel fatigued at all from the bi workout the day before. This is where im scratching my head.

Im normally working tri's with my back or legs but I put them off, i havent really been much on doing arm only days but ill try. Ill do a leg day next and go for a bi/tri workout after, my arms would prob measure up better after a few of those.

As far as tri's, i do BW + 90lb dips for 10-12 reps and i CGPB 2 plates on the smith, and flat bench 315 so my tri's are by no measure weak.

Ill try some of the stuff you guys are talking about and update. My new years resolution was to get to 18" this year and theres no flippin way. So a solid 17-17.5 would be nice to start next year :greet

[Scaffer]

i like to abuse rest-pause and drop sets...it makes picking my nose hard the day after!

[ironwill]

I do hammer curls all the time, i can hammer curl more than regular dumbell curl. I generally find when I dumbell curl 70 or cheat 75's or 80s, my forearms arent strong enough to keep the dumbell parallel to the ground when im curling the weight, my forearms are generally stronger for hammers.

I had a smoking back workout last night, my bi's didnt feel fatigued at all from the bi workout the day before. This is where im scratching my head.

Im normally working tri's with my back or legs but I put them off, i havent really been much on doing arm only days but ill try. Ill do a leg day next and go for a bi/tri workout after, my arms would prob measure up better after a few of those.

As far as tri's, i do BW + 90lb dips for 10-12 reps and i CGPB 2 plates on the smith, and flat bench 315 so my tri's are by no measure weak.

Ill try some of the stuff you guys are talking about and update. My new years resolution was to get to 18" this year and theres no flippin way. So a solid 17-17.5 would be nice to start next year :greet
Its only september....you can do it dude..

[GYMBRAT]

I really like doing reverse bench for tris as well......damn i can really get them to burn.......Dorian yates claims you need to do overhead raises as well to make triceps look deeper and thicker in the main muscle of the tris...

I live by this mans words and wisdom!! (sir Dorion Yates) ;)

[rufusrocks]

too many sets... how about some concentration curls... once a week on the bi's is good because when you do back you are using you bi's too(pulling). good form and good weight. if you do more than 20 sets on your bi's twice a week you will never grow. unles you are jacked and eat 6K calories + a day.

think of a marathon runner as opposed to a sprinter who has the bigger legs?

[faller]

Or you could try this, don't do any direct bi work.... I haven't done a bi workout in over 2 years. I also got very painful foreams/bi when training them, i just assumed it was tendonitis. The pain was effecting all my lifts so i just stopped doing any direct bi work. After a couple months the pain went away and i haven't looked back...I do however always stay with the compound movements which gives me lots of bi work..

This is all assuming that you're just a joe average lifter like me, i guess if you are thinking of takeing it to the next level as in competeing this probably won't work for you..

[CanadianIron]

I cant imagine really pounding your biceps without ever directly working them. When I work my back, my arms arent really holding me back, its usually my lats. So if i gave up on bicep workouts, im sure they'd come down to the level of my lat strengths, so id prefer to keep working them.

Im gonna try an arm only day today, its 4 days since my bi day so ill let you know how it goes.

[GYMBRAT]

I didn't really think his weights were too exaggerated...I do them poundages and most often a fair bit more actually in my arm routines.

I only work them every 2nd wk..I give them their own day and I kill them!

[nisser]

That pain you speak of is extremely common, however it is not common for dumbell curls.

You should only get it doing barbell curls/ez bar curls. I've never heard of anyone getting it from dumbells. Try wearing wrist straps.

As for putting on weight, i'm always trying to eat as much as I can, its a never ending story for people like me, it becomes a pain in the ass trying to eat 5000-6000+ cals a day just to maintain a certain body weight.

I wish I had your problem....sucks being on the endo side cuz I love food and could easily eat that in clean food no problem. My 500cal portions of rice and pork just leave me starving. I'd pay good money if I could double the portion and maybe sprinkle some cheese on it. =(

[CanadianIron]

I know most normal people wish to be skinny and eat whatever they want, but if you're a BB'er I think its easier to be naturally "big"... IMO its easier not to eat food, than to spend all day trying to fill your face.

[CanadianIron]

My arm workout was intense last night, by the time I was doing concentration curls with a cable, my arms were probably more pumped than they've ever been, when I started doing tri's, my skin felt so tight it was scary, i actually started to see stretch marks are on the front of my biceps near my elbows... i like doing the arm only day. Worked out well.

[GYMBRAT]

good for you bro, eat/train hard and it'll come! I've always given my arms their own day

[ironwill]

My arm workout was intense last night, by the time I was doing concentration curls with a cable, my arms were probably more pumped than they've ever been, when I started doing tri's, my skin felt so tight it was scary, i actually started to see stretch marks are on the front of my biceps near my elbows... i like doing the arm only day. Worked out well.
keep at it man, then you can say..."gun show"...."screw you guys...ill give you the nuclear ARMS race mofos".........

thats my line, but you can use it if you like...you need to be over 19 inches to use it though.....something to look forward to...lolol

keep at it man, but honestly arms will grow as the rest of the body grows...believe it or not, get your legs and back bigger, voila, your arms are growing as well...true stuff...

[CanadianIron]

My arms are definately sore today, right in the peak area on my bi's. Havent had that pain for a while, i missed it.

Im also stuck in a seated position right now, i did a crazy leg workout today and I cant flippin straighten out my legs without my quads spazzing... i cant drink enough water to stop it!