Cycle opinions

[Varlover]

I have done gear before, early 20's and was an idiot about it. Didnt even know what a PCT was. Stayed on longer than I should have with little downtime and quit cold turkey, leaving me with the test levels of a 9 year old girl for about 3 months.

I am now 30, I am 6'3" tall and weigh 230lbs, not sure of bodyfat but its not low. I have been researching for about a year now and am ready to do it again but properly and plan on getting regular tests from the doctor throughout.

My diet and workout regime have not been set as of yet, just trying to make smart choices. I am thinking of a 12 week cycle of Test E at 300-500mg/week, not sure yet. I am also going to run Anavar for the first 6 weeks at 40mgs/day Im thinking. I would follow this up with a proper PCT of Clomid and Nolvadex.

I have been debating using test prop instead as I want to lean out but am on the fence with the EOD pins. I am also prone to gyno so should I use arimidex etc for the duration or only have it on hand in case it pops up?

Thanks for the help.

[daande]

I have done gear before, early 20's and was an idiot about it. Didnt even know what a PCT was. Stayed on longer than I should have with little downtime and quit cold turkey, leaving me with the test levels of a 9 year old girl for about 3 months.

I am now 30, I am 6'3" tall and weigh 230lbs, not sure of bodyfat but its not low. I have been researching for about a year now and am ready to do it again but properly and plan on getting regular tests from the doctor throughout.

My diet and workout regime have not been set as of yet, just trying to make smart choices. I am thinking of a 12 week cycle of Test E at 300-500mg/week, not sure yet. I am also going to run Anavar for the first 6 weeks at 40mgs/day Im thinking. I would follow this up with a proper PCT of Clomid and Nolvadex.

I have been debating using test prop instead as I want to lean out but am on the fence with the EOD pins. I am also prone to gyno so should I use arimidex etc for the duration or only have it on hand in case it pops up?

Thanks for the help.

Test E at 500mg a week will be fine. If you are going to run anavar just run it throughout the entire cycle you will be glad you did in the end. Also, for PCT you should add about 10,000iu of HCG to it. You can lean out on Test E. It is all diet when it comes to leaning out. If you eat very clean and add in cardio to your workout routine you will lean out reguardless if you are on test prop or test E.

[baza]

Agree to all of above.
You can get away with lower dosed test if you want though.

[Varlover]

So I am set on it being 450mg of test E per week for 12 weeks. I am also wanting to add 40mg Anavar daily for the first 4-6 weeks. Would it be a good addition to do the Var the first 4 weeks then 4 with no orals and then the last 4 weeks with 50mg of oral winny?

[daande]

You will be happier running the VAR at 40mg ED for the entire 12 weeks than you will be running var for 4 weeks then 4 weeks of winny at the end. VAR takes awhile before you notice its real good effects alot.

[theboss]

You will be happier running the VAR at 40mg ED for the entire 12 weeks than you will be running var for 4 weeks then 4 weeks of winny at the end. VAR takes awhile before you notice its real good effects alot.

yes and no...
i have only tried Var once....perhaps not long enough so i wasnt happy with the results...
now my last cycle included winny..50mg day last 4 weeks....AWESOME!

[daande]

yes and no...
i have only tried Var once....perhaps not long enough so i wasnt happy with the results...
now my last cycle included winny..50mg day last 4 weeks....AWESOME!

I just ran VAR for 12 weeks at 60mg ED. It was crazy the amount of weight i was able to lift.

[theboss]

awesome..i have never ran it that long...perhaps i should try it.
usually my test/tren is enough...i added winny and my weights were way up as well.

[GYMBRAT]

awesome..i have never ran it that long...perhaps i should try it.
usually my test/tren is enough...i added winny and my weights were way up as well.



Same here..

[Varlover]

I know Var is easier on the liver than most orals but what about the dont take orals for more than 6-8 weeks argument?

[GYMBRAT]

I never had issues with any sort of oral taken for 8 wks in the past, though I would recommend you run some sort of liver protectors of your choice through out.

[daande]

I know Var is easier on the liver than most orals but what about the dont take orals for more than 6-8 weeks argument?

Var is the exception to that rule..You can run it for months. They give it to aids patients to help them get an appetite and gain muscle. They put them on it forever.

[Varlover]

Well from what I am reading, the var I planned on taking hasnt had that good of rep lately so I may be forced to look elsewhere. Disappointing.